Merianna
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:14:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:[quote=CCP Greyscale]Can you lay out for me the specific things you guys are currently trying to achieve involving can-flagging mechanics, so I can properly see the problem from your perspective?
=> 1) to initiate a "duel" or practise with out of corp pilots (this can easily be solved by using an "accept duel invite" option)
++ agree, a duel butan should be implemented
=> 2) to bait newbies (sad to do and not allowed in starter systems, just mentioning it as it's used for that)
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=> 3) when ninja salvaging to gain aggression towards the mission runner, in hopes of him getting mad and shooting you after which you warp off, switch ship, get back and try to kill or ransom him
--You sir are sad (goto lowsec), thats exactly the reason why I support option 1) ! Because then, I can just shoot / pod you in Highsec with my main, that may not be in the same corp or alliance as the character that runs missions, but is an active pvper in null sec
=> 4) to annoy miner bots by relieving them of their profits (also very useful to gauge if they are indeed bots, if they just keep dropping ore cans which you invariably nick then you can be fairly sure they're bots, so you can then report them)
--You do know that these people have no chance... Again, option one. You screw with one person = you become criminal, I can shoot you into bits with my pvp character, that has just been waiting for you to make a stupid move.
=> 5) can flipping, getting aggressed to a miner (and his corp if he is in one) to try and initiate a fight of sorts, hoping to get kills or ransom. Note that jetcan mining is used less and less, the Orca isn't only OP for pvp situations, it's also very OP for mining scenarios, you might want to nerf it a bit there as well. Jetcan mining is the lazy, non-effort way of doing things and as such there should be a penalty for it, in the form of risk. Can flipping is that risk.
--Bwaaaah, the Orca, bwaaah is too strong! Mommy I can't play with his toy! - try 10 Battlepotatoes with smartbombs and watch how quickly the Orca dies... L2p dude.
If Jetcan mining becomes as safe as any other form then there's no reason to use secure containers anymore, or actual teamwork or people having a brain. In other words, taking out lazy jetcan miners is in the spirit of EVE. Apart from that even with jetcans a smart and possibly prepared miner can still avoid trouble and even avoid loss of ore.
--I do agree with you here, but then again thats what the Orca is for...
Note that the different timers, to corp and specific members who might have attacked you in the mean time, is a VITAL part of this. If the problem you're describing in regards to coding issues is with how individual timers work then honestly, give it more thought before you implement something that can't handle several different timers at the same time.
Final note... Go fight in lowsec / nullsec. Oh wait you're scared you'll lose your stuff... It's sad to see griefers like yourself. I wouldnt mind being able to kill flagged suspects in Highsec, currently I have to suicide on you, which is all fine by me but shouldn't be the way I get the right to fight for my "helpless" (buddies that build me ships that I then in turn can blow up in hilarious fashion) friends.
There has to be consequences if you comit a crime. Being flagged and taking a sec hit, is exactly what needs to happen. Take it as in Security status = Your police record. If you steal in real life and are being caught then you get an entry in your record. Makes total sense, if you go over a certain level, this may impact on where you can travel or where you can engage in your activities.
You can choose to go to a "war zone" (0.0) without facing any consequences or have any entry added to your police record. This is what lowsec / null is for... But hey, Industrialists in their T1 Mining barges are just way to juicy and the tears you earn from them are just too sweet. It just goes to show me, that you have no balls when it comes to PvP and want the easy exploitive way that is currently present in Highsec.
As many have said - Deal wiz it! or Biomass yourself -
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Merianna
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.04 09:30:00 -
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Mr Welsh wrote:CAN FLIPING GETING NERFED? i knew blizzard would buy out CCP and start ruining this game as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if my friend drops a can of ammo for me and im not in his corp, i am red to everyone , thats just fing stupid!
*hovers finger on the uninstall Eve online button*
inb4 ragequit, can i has ur stuffz plx? |