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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 15/08/2008 21:57:43
Very nice.
Btw, if anyone wants to convert screenshots into a more organic picture then try sketch effect
It can make some pretty good pictures.
A "painting" of a rifter
and a rupture van Goth style
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Grimnir
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:29:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Tellenta
Looks nice but now the exploding ship looks like an exploding coke bottle 
Bah dah ba ba bahhh ..... I'm Poppin' it 
I dunno; I kinda like Murder Ones approach but I don't personally think it's better; it's just different.
I know I'd prefer the first one as a desktop wallpaper as the blur in the second grabs my eye too much, and in the wrong place; you also can't see icons over it properly.
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Black Leather
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:47:00 -
[33]
Originally by: murder one
My paint over looks like ass...
REDO
Yep.
You're right about that.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 23:10:00 -
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Everything is better with crud loads of lens flare.
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Grimnir
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Posted - 2008.08.15 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
On the flip side, nobody but artists will be able to appreciate the corrections that I've made or be able to understand why they were suggested in the first place. All the laymen out there will always focus on the wrong things, being easily dazzled with lens flares and filter effects.
Ok friend; don't take it personally - that's a very arrogant retort right there.
Beauty (and indeed aesthetics) is in the eye of the beholder; I liked your rework, but it didn't fit on my Desktop the way I appreciate it.
But by all-means, if you can show me some lens-flare that looks good with icons over it ... be my guest. *shrug*
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Meteor Crash
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Meteor Crash on 16/08/2008 00:46:28
Quote:
On the flip side, nobody but artists will be able to appreciate the corrections that I've made or be able to understand why they were suggested in the first place. All the laymen out there will always focus on the wrong things, being easily dazzled with lens flares and filter effects.
I thank you for the criticisms even though I disagree with some things. Constructive C&C is always good and appreciated.
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:47:00 -
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There is an artist named hameed on deviantart that really really only needs a few spaceships added to his renders to be uber...
But I like the falcon in this one, almost makes me miss the one i just lost 
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Meteor Crash
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 15/08/2008 21:57:43
Very nice.
Btw, if anyone wants to convert screenshots into a more organic picture then try sketch effect
It can make some pretty good pictures.
A "painting" of a rifter
and a rupture van Goth style
I don't like these filters for some reason. They look too artificial to me.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:53:00 -
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hehe, here's your picture "altered".
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murder one
Gallente
Invincible Reason
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Grimnir
Originally by: murder one
On the flip side, nobody but artists will be able to appreciate the corrections that I've made or be able to understand why they were suggested in the first place. All the laymen out there will always focus on the wrong things, being easily dazzled with lens flares and filter effects.
Ok friend; don't take it personally - that's a very arrogant retort right there.
Beauty (and indeed aesthetics) is in the eye of the beholder; I liked your rework, but it didn't fit on my Desktop the way I appreciate it.
But by all-means, if you can show me some lens-flare that looks good with icons over it ... be my guest. *shrug*
That bit wasn't aimed at you, but other less constructive posters.
[07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now?
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Tiirae
The New Era
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Grimnir
Originally by: murder one
On the flip side, nobody but artists will be able to appreciate the corrections that I've made or be able to understand why they were suggested in the first place. All the laymen out there will always focus on the wrong things, being easily dazzled with lens flares and filter effects.
Ok friend; don't take it personally - that's a very arrogant retort right there.
Beauty (and indeed aesthetics) is in the eye of the beholder; I liked your rework, but it didn't fit on my Desktop the way I appreciate it.
But by all-means, if you can show me some lens-flare that looks good with icons over it ... be my guest. *shrug*
That bit wasn't aimed at you, but other less constructive posters.
I agreead with your criticism of the original piece, but your redo i thought was badly composited as well. however that pales into insignificance next to your ludicrous assertion that only artists can appreciate art. What a ****.
attitudes like that are why I stopped doing literary criticism, in the end it's just a big circlejerk.
if people likes it, they likes it. good enough.
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murder one
Gallente
Invincible Reason
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Posted - 2008.08.16 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tiirae
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Grimnir
Originally by: murder one
On the flip side, nobody but artists will be able to appreciate the corrections that I've made or be able to understand why they were suggested in the first place. All the laymen out there will always focus on the wrong things, being easily dazzled with lens flares and filter effects.
Ok friend; don't take it personally - that's a very arrogant retort right there.
Beauty (and indeed aesthetics) is in the eye of the beholder; I liked your rework, but it didn't fit on my Desktop the way I appreciate it.
But by all-means, if you can show me some lens-flare that looks good with icons over it ... be my guest. *shrug*
That bit wasn't aimed at you, but other less constructive posters.
I agreead with your criticism of the original piece, but your redo i thought was badly composited as well. however that pales into insignificance next to your ludicrous assertion that only artists can appreciate art. What a ****.
attitudes like that are why I stopped doing literary criticism, in the end it's just a big circlejerk.
if people likes it, they likes it. good enough.
That's not what I said. What I meant was, regardless of whether someone likes it or not (I still like the original piece, despite it's technical flaws) that someone not trained in the construction of images won't even know something is wrong or perceive it as incorrect, and thus won't appreciate the difference between a better composed piece.
As an example- the 'compositing': of course my compositing was terrible. It was 30 seconds per part. The whole point of the exercise was to show composition, not compositing skills. To wit: people are focusing on the wrong things. They're judging what they can perceive as flawed and only that, and won't find anything wrong with things that are flawed, but they don't perceive it as such.
[07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now?
[07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2
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Stormking
Wartime Piratical Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:00:00 -
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murder one is correct. With all respect to the OP (it IS a cool pic, thanks for sharing!), there are composition issues. There needs to be way more contrast in color and positioning of the ships. The redo went a long ways toward pointing those out. murder one wasn't saying that no one but artists can appreciate art, but simply that there are some technical issues that are preventing the piece from really "popping."
Meteor, I highly suggest you post this in the "Critique Center" forum at conceptart.org. You have some great stuff to build on; they will help you really push the piece a little more.
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Meteor Crash
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:33:00 -
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Like I said, I appreciate the C&C and agree that the composition could be better!  Wasn't expecting critics about the contrast though, so I'll be looking for that in the future
However like I said, it was a comission. In addition to my work (where I really have to excel and I do post on cgtalk and conceptart for C&C, they're always good) these EVE pics are comissions - I finish one, move to another, because it's how I make ISK. That means I need to finish them fast, preferably in less than one day.
I'm happy that people liked it though. Nobody commented on the pink thanathos though 
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