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Rhen Ayase
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Posted - 2008.08.15 11:50:00 -
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Hey i was rather wondering as there is no Missile Plattform in BS size for the amarrs, because the Cataclysm is a "An Amarrian large missile with good capabilities, ...". But without a dediated ship its rather useless.
As so i think the Khanid should bring out a Missile Ship in BS size, like all their other ships, maybe it is a torp bomber because of their specialiszing in short ranged types. But still there should be more as Rockets (Malediction, Vengeance,.. )and Cruiser sized Ships (Damnation, Sacrileg) ;)
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UGLYUGLY
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.15 11:56:00 -
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Change the Abbadon to 5% torp damage insted of laser . But really none of the Amarr BS's need to be changed.
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Rhen Ayase
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:27:00 -
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no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:28:00 -
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make sure it has 8 missile slots too lol
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Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rhen Ayase Hey i was rather wondering as there is no Missile Plattform in BS size for the amarrs
Because Khanid ships are all T2 and CCP didn't want to give us a black Torp-Apoc as Amarr marauder :(
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Flint
Originally by: Rhen Ayase Hey i was rather wondering as there is no Missile Plattform in BS size for the amarrs
Because Khanid ships are all T2 and CCP didn't want to give us a black Torp-Apoc as Amarr marauder :(
Black Torp-Apoc... sex
EoMs can shield tank and use missiles so lets steal the EoM Apoc! ------------ When I became the sun, I shone life into the man¦s hearts. |

Darahk J'olonar
Gallente Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:47:00 -
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Would love to see a Khanid BS be just like the Typhoon with mixed highs. That would just be plain cool. Seeing that Large MP II w/ Multi and Torps have damned near the same range. Man that would jut be so damned sweet.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:49:00 -
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It would be a Giant Sacrilege. That's just not nice 
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:49:00 -
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I really want one. Khanid ships are pimp.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:52:00 -
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The Khanid BS is in the same place as all the other Khanid T1 ships.
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:19:00 -
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Where is the Ishukone Battleship? Or the Roden Shipyards one?
Each race has three Tech 2 ship designers. Since there are only two T2 battleships in the game right now, it makes sense that not all of the designers have their own battleship yet.
Be patient. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bronson Hughes Where is the Ishukone Battleship? Or the Roden Shipyards one?
Each race has three Tech 2 ship designers. Since there are only two T2 battleships in the game right now, it makes sense that not all of the designers have their own battleship yet.
Be patient.
yes but the khanid is so much more AWSOME than anytone else...
Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". |

Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw
yes but the khanid is so much more AWSOME than anytone else...
Then the end result should be well worth the wait then. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

SuiJuris
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:10:00 -
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It sadly only exists withen our dreams. Or the nightmares of others, you pick. ***I'm Epic!, unfortunately sometimes my Epic achievement for the day is failing. |

Pilot Abilene
Caldari Serpentine Dream Theory
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:12:00 -
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If they ever do make a Khanid BS / Blood Raider BS surely they would have to use the Abaddon hull as the Apoc and Geddon models have been done so many times now.
Apoc - Navy Apoc - Imperial Apoc - Paladin Geddon - Bhaalgorn - Imperial Geddon - Redeemer Abaddon - ? - ? - where's my black / blood splattered Abaddon!
A black missile spewing Abaddon would rule
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Pilot Abilene If they ever do make a Khanid BS / A black missile spewing Abaddon would rule
QFT, WTB Dead Sexy Black Abaddon with a torp damage bonus and a Crazy badass amarr capacitor :) ***I'm Epic!, unfortunately sometimes my Epic achievement for the day is failing. |

Noelle Fay
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Noelle Fay on 15/08/2008 15:30:14
Originally by: Elhina Novae
Black Torp-Apoc
stop making us horny  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke. |

Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rhen Ayase no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
Nothing too overpowered, then?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:41:00 -
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Actually, it would be the Redeemer that would more likely be the Khanid design.
6 Seige Launchers might even make it fun.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |

Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Gimpb on 15/08/2008 17:22:33 Shoot, they could just go all the way and make it a missile spamming dominix.
Raven? pfft, so 2007.
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Holy Lowlander
Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:27:00 -
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mFh why didn't they make a khandid frigate ,, mFh why didn't they make a khandid destroyer ,, mFh why didn't they make a khandid cruisers ,, mFh why didn't they make a khandid BC ,, mFh why didn't they make a khandid BS ....
because they are t1 ...
yesh they made some t2 khandid frigs ,, yesh they made a t2 khandid destroyer ,, yesh they made some t2 khandid cruisers ... etc.
Quote: woot I wants a toy arbitrator !!! :O
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: AstroPhobic on 15/08/2008 17:29:16
Originally by: Rhen Ayase no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
Shall I request the tempest get another... 3 launchers and have 30% to torp damage and 200% to torp velocity then? You know, per level?
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Edited by: AstroPhobic on 15/08/2008 17:29:16
Originally by: Rhen Ayase no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
Shall I request the tempest get another... 3 launchers and have 30% to torp damage and 200% to torp velocity then? You know, per level?
You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
Switch ROF bonus to 0.1% falloff per level plz?
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:38:00 -
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nah ccp in their infinite wisdom would give the launchers a cap reduction bonus...... 
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Boz Well You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
Switch ROF bonus to 0.1% falloff per level plz?
I was thinking -10% cap usage to projectile weapons per level, so that we are even MOAR capless.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Boz Well You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
Switch ROF bonus to 0.1% falloff per level plz?
I was thinking -10% cap usage to projectile weapons per level, so that we are even MOAR capless.
Intriguing. Wouldn't that make projectiles capless, and you know, overpowered?
By the way, consider this thread (akin to half the threads on page 1) derailed by the minmatar squad/lyria.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rhen Ayase no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
And then sing hail to the new king of close range dps. The Raven sports 1k dps at 30km. This monster would sport close to 1500, unless you cut down the number of torp slots appropiately.
Plus all those low slots mean 3 BCS + plates + eanm + DC, and enough mids for a TP + MWD + web. Can you imagine the sheer amount of OWN that ship can deliver? I'd fly one and drop the horrible looking raven in a heartbeat.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Boz Well You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
Switch ROF bonus to 0.1% falloff per level plz?
I was thinking -10% cap usage to projectile weapons per level, so that we are even MOAR capless.
Intriguing. Wouldn't that make projectiles capless, and you know, overpowered?
By the way, consider this thread (akin to half the threads on page 1) derailed by the minmatar squad/lyria.
- 10% from 0 equals INFINITE win!
But my math only extends to college trig so far - plenty of room for math error there 
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:54:00 -
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Infinite win? How does that work when combined with invincibility fields supplied by our 650 DPS vagabonds?
Sounds rather game breaking.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.08.15 18:24:00 -
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Make a BS sized cruise-missile platform that looks like a flying missile battery and call it the...Cruiseder 
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |

J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.08.15 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Flint
Originally by: Rhen Ayase Hey i was rather wondering as there is no Missile Plattform in BS size for the amarrs
Because Khanid ships are all T2 and CCP didn't want to give us a black Torp-Apoc as Amarr marauder :(
Thank goodness!
But I think torps on the Sin might work.
-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.15 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Infinite win? How does that work when combined with invincibility fields supplied by our 650 DPS vagabonds?
Sounds rather game breaking.
Invulnerability field manufactures should be SHOT for the gross misrepresentation of their modules. I think I have fitted them on at LEAST a dozen ships that have exploded.
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Rhen Ayase
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Posted - 2008.08.15 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Make a BS sized cruise-missile platform that looks like a flying missile battery and call it the...Cruiseder 
you mean a Crusader?
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.15 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rhen Ayase
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Make a BS sized cruise-missile platform that looks like a flying missile battery and call it the...Cruiseder 
you mean a Crusader?
I think you missed the joke. At least I think it was a joke - it could just be a convenient mispelling
CRUISE(like the missile)der
So rather than kroo-seyd-er as the approximate pronunciation it would be "krooz-der"
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Rhen Ayase
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Posted - 2008.08.15 19:23:00 -
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sorry my bad :> i am to stupid for word jokes in foreign languages, like english for me ;p
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Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.08.15 19:32:00 -
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More on-topic if you excuse me.
Give Abaddon 6 launchers and we are done. You can reskin it later. No real need to change bonuses. Tell me you would not fly it.
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Forge Lag More on-topic if you excuse me.
Give Abaddon 6 launchers and we are done. You can reskin it later. No real need to change bonuses. Tell me you would not fly it.
If you rather want 6 unbonused torps than 6 bonused lasers might just spell a certain word about torps (or the cap use on a abaddon) Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dristra
Originally by: Forge Lag More on-topic if you excuse me.
Give Abaddon 6 launchers and we are done. You can reskin it later. No real need to change bonuses. Tell me you would not fly it.
If you rather want 6 unbonused torps than 6 bonused lasers might just spell a certain word about torps (or the cap use on a abaddon)
Buff amarr!
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dristra
Originally by: Forge Lag More on-topic if you excuse me.
Give Abaddon 6 launchers and we are done. You can reskin it later. No real need to change bonuses. Tell me you would not fly it.
If you rather want 6 unbonused torps than 6 bonused lasers might just spell a certain word about torps (or the cap use on a abaddon)
I'd use 4 unbonused torps rather than 6 double bonused projectiles. That might just spell a certain word about projectiles. 
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Helios Hyperion make sure it has 8 missile slots too lol
OOF!
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Face Palmer
Originally by: Helios Hyperion make sure it has 8 missile slots too lol
OOF!
And while were at it, in addition to the 2k dps, ensure it has abaddon grade slabs of armor.
Then, in my unstoppable solopwn mobile with 2k dps and 30k + armor I shall FINALLY become a complete eve badass.
Until other people start flying them
On second though, just give them to me for the usual cost of a raven
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:14:00 -
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8 of those torps with proposed "bonuses", 3 BCU IIs.
8(119)(1.50)(1.33) = 1900 DPS, plus about 200 from a flight of drones.
2.1k DPS isn't overpowered, c'mon guys.
Lets see how long it takes to train torps 5..
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Rhen Ayase
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Make a BS sized cruise-missile platform that looks like a flying missile battery and call it the...Cruiseder 
you mean a Crusader?
I think you missed the joke. At least I think it was a joke - it could just be a convenient mispelling
CRUISE(like the missile)der
So rather than kroo-seyd-er as the approximate pronunciation it would be "krooz-der"
Aye, that was the joke. Bad one i guess 
Originally by: Rhen Ayase sorry my bad :> i am to stupid for word jokes in foreign languages, like english for me ;p
English foreign for me too! 
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |

Kuzya Morozov
Gallente L8L8L8
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:30:00 -
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torpdur
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EvilSpork
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:38:00 -
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fourth BS hull for all races. amarr gets a giant shiny black missile spamming resistance and ROF bonused awesome mobile.
i would fly a BS sized damnation in a heartbeat. khanid = win
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Ralara
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Boz Well You could try, but the difference here is that they Amarr would probably get it, and CCP would just give the tempest another nerf. 
Switch ROF bonus to 0.1% falloff per level plz?
I was thinking -10% cap usage to projectile weapons per level, so that we are even MOAR capless.
Why not go the whole way then and have projectiles GIVE you capacitor every time they fire?  --
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rhen Ayase no need to alter existing ones...
just make a dark skinned geddon with bonus like
10% to rate of fire for torp launchers and 5% damage to torps
You touch my freakin geddon and I will eat your face.
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Gamov
Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Gamov on 16/08/2008 10:30:39
Originally by: UGLYUGLY Change the Abbadon to 5% torp damage insted of laser 
i kill you (ingame)!!!!!!!
Originally by: goodby4u You touch my freakin geddon and I will eat your face.
and this
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Delichon
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.08.17 08:38:00 -
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"Even moar capless" wins the thread  But I actually become very sad panda, when my rokh caps out after 5 minutes of pos bashing and that tempest fellow just goes on and on punching it. The apoc fellow on the other hand just switches 5 or 6 laserz on and goes for a 30 min tee break.
Bust Rails! ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
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ArchMagos Fermi
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:30:00 -
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The Khanid Bs exists, EoM has it. |

Drakarian
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.20 15:49:00 -
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Forget BS, i just wana see a black harbinger...that would just be too hot!
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