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Ichandasil Minmatar Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:12:00 - [1] First, don't kick out a well liked corporation over some hissy-fit and then deny them the ability to remove their assets, against alliance policy, all without leadership consultation. Then, of course, you go and make yourself look like a tool when said leadership forces you to allow them back in so that they can get their stuff out. Second, don't demand member corporations start spamming PoS's in contested systems and then not drop a single one from your own corporation. That's just bad form. Third, demanding 12 million ISK per alliance member for the hiring of a mercenary corporation may be a good idea but when a member corporation asks that you just take that sum out of the 20 billion that Hydra already owes them DO NOT kick out said corporation because, well, they own 50+ PoS's and you just might need them for sovereignty. Also, kicking out their friends probably isn't a good idea either when you're in the middle of a little conflict. Finally, clear and constant communication and direction is usually needed from leaders during high stress times. Clamming up like a virgin on prom night probably isn't the best option. None of the above actions really make any sense from the point of view of the typical Hydra member, of which I recently was. We don't get to attend the leadership meetings and their intentions are almost never explained to us. All we get to see are actions. The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Anyways... When I was in the Marine Corps they taught us something in NCO school that may or may not translate well into a space ship shoot-em-up: All failures are failures in leadership. You're welcome, and that will be 5 bucks.
Alty McAltypants Eretz Israel	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:17:00 - [2] Bruce v.1.2 tbh.
Kronos Hopeslayer Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:31:00 - [3] If it makes you feel any better, they were like this a year ago too. They are very draconian, which wouldn't be bad if the decisions they made actually brought success to the alliance and corporations. Instead you're left with a WTF feeling, and a desire to GTFO as fast as possible. The day we left Hydra was perhaps the happiest day I can remember, so congrats you're free! My only regret is not taking part in their destruction
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:32:00 - [4] poastin' I like this thread. It's the kind of emo-rage thing I'd do in the old days. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Bob Mc Shade.	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Alty McAltypants Bruce v.1.2 tbh. How does this compare to anything bruce ever did, mr alt?
Rubra J. S. Bach In memoriam	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Alty McAltypants Bruce v.1.2 tbh. I don't know where you got this comparison. Hydra has always been worse imo than Bruce ever was, and that's saying something.
Machine Delta GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Butter Dog poastin' I like this thread. It's the kind of emo-rage thing I'd do in the old days. Old days are just a few weeks ago now? snip Your signature is inappropriate. Do not post it again. If you have questions, email [email protected] with a link to your signature graphic. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
ViRUS Pottage Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Ichandasil The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Fux u and leave Gashon alone. You were a part of Hydra you say, thats the mistake YOU made. _________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:51:00 - [9] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Fux u and leave Gashon alone. You were a part of Hydra you say, thats the mistake YOU made. Ouch, good burn...nice to see MM feelings on Hydra, maybe their membership will start to believe what I tell them in local.
ViRUS Pottage Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Fux u and leave Gashon alone. You were a part of Hydra you say, thats the mistake YOU made. Ouch, good burn...nice to see MM feelings on Hydra, maybe their membership will start to believe what I tell them in local. That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. _________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?

Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:55:00 - [11] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance?
Ichandasil Minmatar Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:56:00 - [12] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: Ichandasil The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Fux u and leave Gashon alone. You were a part of Hydra you say, thats the mistake YOU made. You've just confirmed a feeling I've had for a long time. She always seemed much more interested in playing with other alliances rather than her own.
ViRUS Pottage Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance? Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. _________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:09:00 - [14] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. Im sure we will fall again at some point today...may want to check your alliance policy on posting on CAOD...
white kight SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:11:00 - [15] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance? Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. Yay smacktalk on COAD!!!!!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. BEWARE OF THE DRAKE BLOB MM...... BBBEEEEEEEWWWWWWAAAAAAARRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:33:00 - [16] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance? Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. Classy poastin' from the NC there. Tell you what - MM V's TRI. No other outside help. Go on, prove yourself :) ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Liberty.	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Ichandasil First, don't kick out a well liked corporation over some hissy-fit and then deny them the ability to remove their assets, against alliance policy, all without leadership consultation. Then, of course, you go and make yourself look like a tool when said leadership forces you to allow them back in so that they can get their stuff out. Second, don't demand member corporations start spamming PoS's in contested systems and then not drop a single one from your own corporation. That's just bad form. Third, demanding 12 million ISK per alliance member for the hiring of a mercenary corporation may be a good idea but when a member corporation asks that you just take that sum out of the 20 billion that Hydra already owes them DO NOT kick out said corporation because, well, they own 50+ PoS's and you just might need them for sovereignty. Also, kicking out their friends probably isn't a good idea either when you're in the middle of a little conflict. Finally, clear and constant communication and direction is usually needed from leaders during high stress times. Clamming up like a virgin on prom night probably isn't the best option. None of the above actions really make any sense from the point of view of the typical Hydra member, of which I recently was. We don't get to attend the leadership meetings and their intentions are almost never explained to us. All we get to see are actions. The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Anyways... When I was in the Marine Corps they taught us something in NCO school that may or may not translate well into a space ship shoot-em-up: All failures are failures in leadership. You're welcome, and that will be 5 bucks. Yeah you must have been one of their most loyal members... posting this on CAOD... alliances thrive on bitter little ****tards like you who only complain and dont contribute.. oh wait.... /facepalm
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:40:00 - [18] Originally by: 128th ABC123 Yeah you must have been one of their most loyal members... posting this on CAOD... alliances thrive on bitter little **tards like you who only complain and dont contribute.. oh wait.... /facepalm Did you miss the part where he mentioned that Hydra owed his corp 20bn? I agree his post reeks of a bitterness only I could rival, but the guy has a valid point. He only posted that after his alliance screwed him over. I think, fair play to him. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog'** Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Major PewPew The Dark Horses	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:52:00 - [19] Originally by: Ichandasil First, don't kick out a well liked corporation over some hissy-fit and then deny them the ability to remove their assets, against alliance policy, all without leadership consultation. Then, of course, you go and make yourself look like a tool when said leadership forces you to allow them back in so that they can get their stuff out. Second, don't demand member corporations start spamming PoS's in contested systems and then not drop a single one from your own corporation. That's just bad form. Third, demanding 12 million ISK per alliance member for the hiring of a mercenary corporation may be a good idea but when a member corporation asks that you just take that sum out of the 20 billion that Hydra already owes them DO NOT kick out said corporation because, well, they own 50+ PoS's and you just might need them for sovereignty. Also, kicking out their friends probably isn't a good idea either when you're in the middle of a little conflict. Finally, clear and constant communication and direction is usually needed from leaders during high stress times. Clamming up like a virgin on prom night probably isn't the best option. None of the above actions really make any sense from the point of view of the typical Hydra member, of which I recently was. We don't get to attend the leadership meetings and their intentions are almost never explained to us. All we get to see are actions. The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Anyways... When I was in the Marine Corps they taught us something in NCO school that may or may not translate well into a space ship shoot-em-up: All failures are failures in leadership. You're welcome, and that will be 5 bucks. How did you join Hydra without doing any research on how they run their alliance? If you were looking for an alliance that runs itself effectively and efficiently, you most definitely joined the wrong one. Consider yourself lucky they kicked you out, you dont want to be associated with that level of fail for too long.
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 14:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Major PewPew How did you join Hydra without doing any research on how they run their alliance? If you were looking for an alliance that runs itself effectively and efficiently, you most definitely joined the wrong one. Consider yourself lucky they kicked you out, you dont want to be associated with that level of fail for too long. I would assume the same way people get mixed up with goons. They see a 0.0 entity that will offer them membership/space and jump at the chance. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."

Major PewPew The Dark Horses	Posted - 2008.08.15 14:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Major PewPew How did you join Hydra without doing any research on how they run their alliance? If you were looking for an alliance that runs itself effectively and efficiently, you most definitely joined the wrong one. Consider yourself lucky they kicked you out, you dont want to be associated with that level of fail for too long. I would assume the same way people get mixed up with goons. They see a 0.0 entity that will offer them membership/space and jump at the chance. I guess my main point here is, how exactly do you not do any homework on the alliance you are about to join? Granted when I ran this corp he first time, and joined Hydra, I wasnt able to do much homework on them, but I wasnt bracing for uber alliance when we submitted our application. The OP should have seen all the "hydra fail" posts on the forums (which when I joined, never existed), before joining them. This way he wouldnt have been so let down when they let him go.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 14:54:00 - [22] Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 14:55:23 The important questions I have, is do I have to shoot these 50 sov towers still?? And Which mercs are coming, and are they willing to deploy capital assets? Would love to see the KIA or Dashio titans dropped on us...please tell me they are bringing the heat! ninja edit For the billions it will cost to hire mercs, we could have rented you out space for billions...seriously...lol
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Major PewPew Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Major PewPew How did you join Hydra without doing any research on how they run their alliance? If you were looking for an alliance that runs itself effectively and efficiently, you most definitely joined the wrong one. Consider yourself lucky they kicked you out, you dont want to be associated with that level of fail for too long. I would assume the same way people get mixed up with goons. They see a 0.0 entity that will offer them membership/space and jump at the chance. I guess my main point here is, how exactly do you not do any homework on the alliance you are about to join? Granted when I ran this corp he first time, and joined Hydra, I wasnt able to do much homework on them, but I wasnt bracing for uber alliance when we submitted our application. The OP should have seen all the "hydra fail" posts on the forums (which when I joined, never existed), before joining them. This way he wouldnt have been so let down when they let him go. If you decide which alliance you want to join by looking at who has CAOD alt threads talking about them failing then you wouldn't join any alliance. If someone gets kicked from a corp/alliance, loses a fleet fight, wins a fleet fight, steals some crap, or wins/loses a war then you're guaranteed a fail thread.
Trojanman190 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Wesley Baird Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 14:55:23 The important questions I have, is do I have to shoot these 50 sov towers still?? And Which mercs are coming, and are they willing to deploy capital assets? Would love to see the KIA or Dashio titans dropped on us...please tell me they are bringing the heat! ninja edit For the billions it will cost to hire mercs, we could have rented you out space for billions...seriously...lol Seriously, pew pew plz.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:13:00 - [25] So did TRI really failascade into obscurity only to come back and taunt cap-wielding enemies weeks later, or was TRI's so-called collapse the most epic ruse of 2008?
Ichandasil Minmatar Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:34:00 - [26] But I'm not an alt, lol. This is my main toon. And yes, it has been entertaining. Things like this make Eve a great game.
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:35:00 - [27] as great as the american army i think not
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Moon Kitten as great as the american army i think not Marines > Army
Cheeva Gallente Core Productions	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Moon Kitten as great as the american army i think not Marines > Army me > you
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Cheeva Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Moon Kitten as great as the american army i think not Marines > Army me > you Somehow I doubt you are better at anything than Wes... __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."



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