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NokNok D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:32:00 - [31] Hydra membership didn't believe me when I told them their leaders had already sold them out to get their assets to safety. It's even better then that, they are spending membership assets now to hire mercs and get their stuff out
Avitar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:45:00 - [32] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance? Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. Don't make me come down there Virus
Tommy Foofoo Caldari Molden Heath Gentlemen's Society	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:46:00 - [33] I am the mercs, and I always come in...hot.
Fitz VonHeise The New Order.	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:55:00 - [34] Originally by: Ichandasil When I was in the Marine Corps ... Who-Ra!
Karbowiak Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:08:00 - [35] Wooo, Mercs \o/ Who we getting to play with? LONG LIVE CONCRETE! Free Killboard Hosting Service
Zurasa Imperial Command	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:20:00 - [36] Edited by: Zurasa on 15/08/2008 17:22:18 Originally by: Avitar Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: ViRUS Pottage That isnt MM's view on Hydra, its my view on Hydra. Fair enough, but don't MM have a ban on CAOD posters unless you are of some sort of importance in the alliance? Not that i've heard of. And, you're acting like your alliance is somewhat great? Wonder how long it is until you fall, again. Don't make me come down there Virus Somehow I doubt you would take MM space that fast, you ppl only planted that fmr PA-TRI spy there recently, let him do his work first and earn some easy ISK for TRI. :P Just finish Hydra first, please.
Pamangkin Notneir Industry LLC	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Karbowiak Wooo, Mercs \o/ Who we getting to play with? BE .. ohh nvm lol
Atsuko Yamamoto Caldari The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:42:00 - [38] Edited by: Atsuko Yamamoto on 15/08/2008 17:42:35 Originally by: Karbowiak Wooo, Mercs \o/ Who we getting to play with? We are hiring the entirety of the State War Academy. With our vast resources we built a- oh wait we spent that on hiring them, uhm, yeah so expect a lot of kestrels and ospreys. We have told the macroers Vale was a new level 4 storyline mission so expect a lot of confused farmers. And, most of all, we have begun cloaking our towers, to ambush you! ____________________________________ "MONKEY!!"-Gir
Brigsby5987 Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Ichandasil First, don't kick out a well liked corporation over some hissy-fit and then deny them the ability to remove their assets, against alliance policy, all without leadership consultation. Then, of course, you go and make yourself look like a tool when said leadership forces you to allow them back in so that they can get their stuff out. Second, don't demand member corporations start spamming PoS's in contested systems and then not drop a single one from your own corporation. That's just bad form. Third, demanding 12 million ISK per alliance member for the hiring of a mercenary corporation may be a good idea but when a member corporation asks that you just take that sum out of the 20 billion that Hydra already owes them DO NOT kick out said corporation because, well, they own 50+ PoS's and you just might need them for sovereignty. Also, kicking out their friends probably isn't a good idea either when you're in the middle of a little conflict. Finally, clear and constant communication and direction is usually needed from leaders during high stress times. Clamming up like a virgin on prom night probably isn't the best option. None of the above actions really make any sense from the point of view of the typical Hydra member, of which I recently was. We don't get to attend the leadership meetings and their intentions are almost never explained to us. All we get to see are actions. The only world that these actions make any sense in is some bizarro world where Gashon is really a Tri tool. Anyways... When I was in the Marine Corps they taught us something in NCO school that may or may not translate well into a space ship shoot-em-up: All failures are failures in leadership. You're welcome, and that will be 5 bucks. You pretty much summed it up pretty good. Well regardless of where you go next, I am sure you will be glad not to be "Hydra" anymore. Good luck. __________________________________________ When Will I be able to post again ? 13 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes, 36 seconds
Angor BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:04:00 - [40] I iz on page 2 of a hydra failure cascade thread. hi mom! _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!

Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Pamangkin Originally by: Karbowiak Wooo, Mercs \o/ Who we getting to play with? BE .. ohh nvm lol ^^this
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Cippalippus Primus When bad alliances die we always get bitter alt posts about why they were so bad and what should they have done better. It's rather entertaining. Promise to do the same when Goons finally wither and die??? How many of the old guard are still logging in?? How the hell should I know? Do you think I ever log in? -clp
Coren Skyus Ad Astra Vexillum	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:20:00 - [43] I have had no personal issues with what the Executor of Hydra has done. Yes some of it is drastic, but uhhh that is what has been needed for like 2 years now tbh. Agreed it might be too late, but I can say that if the Alliance does survive, even with 40-50% of the members it did have, it will be MUCH stronger than it was before. Personally, I would like to see a bit more purging as well moving forward. Our Corp has only been around 2 months and we knew exactly what we were getting in to. An Alliance who had just went through a leadership change and were trying to get the boat turned the right direction moving forward. That is something I can personally buy into and try my best to help. Alliances rise and fall. These things happen in EVE. No need getting all emo over it. I'm sure you'll get your money sooner or later... probably later if you keep whining about it.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Coren Skyus I have had no personal issues with what the Executor of Hydra has done. Yes some of it is drastic, but uhhh that is what has been needed for like 2 years now tbh. Agreed it might be too late, but I can say that if the Alliance does survive, even with 40-50% of the members it did have, it will be MUCH stronger than it was before. Personally, I would like to see a bit more purging as well moving forward. Oh no you didn't pull a "wolfpack" did you? I raise you a "free from the shackles of POS warfare". -clp
Zeitgueist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:34:00 - [45] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Originally by: Wesley Baird How many of the old guard are still logging in?? How the hell should I know? Do you think I ever log in? Well you know, Goonswarm puts so much importance on it's 50 million SP ****sockers that this is a harsh burn.
Negra Neve Neve Negra	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:56:00 - [46] Bah, whats with all this Hydra bashing lately? Their going up pretty much solo vs Tri, while the rest of us are tied up with bob. And unlike other alliances (Hi TRI) they dont implode at the first sign of serious conflict. They show up and they put up a fight. Yes they might lose, but so what. Rather fight and die then fold before the fight even starts. Hang in there hydra. Whatever you lose now, you'll get it back soon and hey, we might even witness triumvirate imploding again
Karbowiak Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:00:00 - [47] oh god, cloaking towers AND the wrath of the 'State war Academy' HOW WILL WE SURVIVE! :( But yeah, again - WOO MERCS \o/ LONG LIVE CONCRETE! Free Killboard Hosting Service
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:05:00 - [48] Originally by: Negra Neve Bah, whats with all this Hydra bashing lately? Their going up pretty much solo vs Tri, while the rest of us are tied up with bob. And unlike other alliances (Hi TRI) they dont implode at the first sign of serious conflict. They show up and they put up a fight. Yes they might lose, but so what. Rather fight and die then fold before the fight even starts. Hang in there hydra. Whatever you lose now, you'll get it back soon and hey, we might even witness triumvirate imploding again Before your alt posting corp gets banned, why not send me a mail in game with a little wager on if Hydra ever gets this space back...seems leaders of the NC have literally said its never going to happen...
Negra Neve Neve Negra	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:37:00 - [49] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Negra Neve Bah, whats with all this Hydra bashing lately? Their going up pretty much solo vs Tri, while the rest of us are tied up with bob. And unlike other alliances (Hi TRI) they dont implode at the first sign of serious conflict. They show up and they put up a fight. Yes they might lose, but so what. Rather fight and die then fold before the fight even starts. Hang in there hydra. Whatever you lose now, you'll get it back soon and hey, we might even witness triumvirate imploding again Before your alt posting corp gets banned, why not send me a mail in game with a little wager on if Hydra ever gets this space back...seems leaders of the NC have literally said its never going to happen... Why? Because hydra cant single-handedly 1 shot triumvirate? Dont sell yourself or your alliance short there wes, i know plenty of other alliances out there in 0.0 that could not hold their own vs triumvirate. Hydra has performed it's duties well. They have secured the pipe up to the north plenty of times, and when you showed up they did their best to stop you. They cant do it alone. No worries. Once bob gets settled i'll be going to vale to say hi. Me and 500 of my friends.
NokNok D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:42:00 - [50] Originally by: Negra Neve Hydra has performed it's duties well. They have secured the pipe up to the north plenty of times, and when you showed up they did their best to stop you. They cant do it alone. No worries. Once bob gets settled i'll be going to vale to say hi. Me and 500 of my friends. You can bring a 1000 alt blob, we're still better then you.

LetsDoThis	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:46:00 - [51] Anyone who read the alliance mail saw this coming. A competent alliance doesn't bark orders to pos spam through alliance mails. I saw that and started to move all my shit to empire.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Negra Neve Why? Because hydra cant single-handedly 1 shot triumvirate? Dont sell yourself or your alliance short there wes, i know plenty of other alliances out there in 0.0 that could not hold their own vs triumvirate. Hydra has performed it's duties well. They have secured the pipe up to the north plenty of times, and when you showed up they did their best to stop you. They cant do it alone. No worries. Once bob gets settled i'll be going to vale to say hi. Me and 500 of my friends. How's your plan of boring BOB to death going??? I hear they are loving life with more hardware in theater now than when this whole little war started... You are also assuming we are stopping with Hydra space...who knows where we might make an appearance next...easy to decide between VFK and Vale, maybe next time the decision won't be so easy for the megablob...
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Negra Neve Bah, whats with all this Hydra bashing lately? Their going up pretty much solo vs Tri, while the rest of us are tied up with bob. And unlike other alliances (Hi TRI) they dont implode at the first sign of serious conflict. They show up and they put up a fight. Yes they might lose, but so what. Rather fight and die then fold before the fight even starts. Hang in there hydra. Whatever you lose now, you'll get it back soon and hey, we might even witness triumvirate imploding again The only thing TRI are good at in eve-online is beating up small, insignificant alliances and posting endlessly about how great they are as a result. Also running away I guess as soon as they run into any serious resistance, but they probably don't want to post as much about that
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:01:00 - [54] So umm... tress... this your main? Since your gonna give us a lesson I figured I would check... __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
MarleWH Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Ichandasil Hydra Ok, I found the problem.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:08:00 - [56] Originally by: Ackaroth So umm... tress... this your main? Since your gonna give us a lesson I figured I would check... Nice to know my troll hit home
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:30:00 - [57] Edited by: Ackaroth on 15/08/2008 20:29:55 So umm... afraid to tell me who your main is then? Surely not a pilot that has no stats on the GS kb... I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, hoping you have a main that you pvp with or something. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Negra Neve Bah, whats with all this Hydra bashing lately? Their going up pretty much solo vs Tri, while the rest of us are tied up with bob. And unlike other alliances (Hi TRI) they dont implode at the first sign of serious conflict. They show up and they put up a fight. Yes they might lose, but so what. Rather fight and die then fold before the fight even starts. Hang in there hydra. Whatever you lose now, you'll get it back soon and hey, we might even witness triumvirate imploding again Before your alt posting corp gets banned, why not send me a mail in game with a little wager on if Hydra ever gets this space back...seems leaders of the NC have literally said its never going to happen... May not get that space back, but they will get something. If they gave IRON space after they abandoned Dek without firing a shot while the North crumbled, they sure as hell will give an entity that actually is putting up a fight some space, especially since they're facing another invasion. Then again, I could be wrong. NC isn't exactly known for their ability to look into the future. "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Graalum Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Tress Macneille Originally by: Ackaroth So umm... tress... this your main? Since your gonna give us a lesson I figured I would check... Nice to know my troll hit home your trolls never hit the mark unless you are doing the CARY method of trolling, in which case i wouldn't be surprised if he was your main.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 20:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Tress Macneille Originally by: Ackaroth So umm... tress... this your main? Since your gonna give us a lesson I figured I would check... Nice to know my troll hit home your trolls never hit the mark unless you are doing the CARY method of trolling, in which case i wouldn't be surprised if he was your main. I am an excellent troll, back off you asshat



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