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Asudem
Asen of Asgard
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:01:00 -
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Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts onl
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard. United We Stand.
7
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:07:00 -
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/signed
Have been thinking of this myself as most other online games offers the service (not saying just because others offers it, why not just duplicate).
I would not make use of the service myself as I usually think about the names for my toons.
Unless it somehow would interfere with bounties, nullifying it or impacts in any other way, I cannot see why not.
Could make it part of the plex / aur programme even ? |

MushroomMushroom
Consolidated Sprocket
7
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:35:00 -
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Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players. |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
16
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:21:00 -
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MushroomMushroom wrote:Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Added the naming history point.
I agree to the identity, but identities can change while the player and his/her character grows and so. And since links in EVE wouldnt become invalid through the change and names would be updated in histories, lists ect. I dont see what why corp thiefes and spies would have it easier to do their thing. Besides, if you are dumb enough to let someone scam you, you deserve it and the name changing feature wouldnt change a bit on that fact. Besides, you could change your name just once per year, so there is enough time to get used to it. The history was a good point, but the rest is nonsense to me.
MushroomMushroom wrote:Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players.
Not supposed to be. Criminals shall not rename themselfes, thats the only reason for the sec status requirement. |

Tidurious
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
193
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:27:00 -
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No. Please search the forums before posting repeats. This has been suggested several times, and if you would like to see why, read all the other posts about it. |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
623
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:45:00 -
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Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion
CCP has already said, many times, that they have no intention of allowing people to rename their characters -- there's just too much potential for 'character recycling' via the Bazaar, and our block lists would become useless. Monoclegate: because calling it 'Doorgate' would just be silly. |

Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian Pinked
41
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Posted - 2012.03.23 01:03:00 -
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Maybe each character has an ID, so you could change your name, but not your ID. Thus preventing naming scams. Real Caldari Hull Tank (And Win doing so) Support https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580 |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:01:00 -
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I for one would welcome an opportunity to change my character name, it has been 8 years since i made this character and i havent gone by Solid Rock in most other setings for the past 6 of those. It is also worth noting that i was only 15 years old at the time, and as i have become older and more mature i worry that the rather silly name may prevent me from being taken seriously. Yet i do no want to loose 8 years worth of game progress for the sake of a name either
There a plenty of ways to safeguard a system like this against abuse, making it a paid service akin to the old portrait transfers will discourage most casual abuse and adding, as was already sugested by the OP, a 12 month cooldown will make it rather useless as a means of getting away with all but the longest cons. At any rate, i believe that the notion that you could disapear completely simply by virtue of a changed name is shaky at best. If you are worth hunting down someone will enivitably put two and two together or your friends will rat you out at the promise of riches or the threat of a 1400 mm canon up their auxiliary exaust port. The potential for abuse is limited at best if implemented properly, i would even say that the security status requirement is a bit much
As for block lists, i am certain the game already tracks characters by ID codes rather than names within the games internal logic. It is not a huge stretch to imagine that block's could be made to stick regardless of names. |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
16
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:21:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote: CCP has already said, many times, that they have no intention of allowing people to rename their characters -- there's just too much potential for 'character recycling' via the Bazaar, and our block lists would become useless.
If they are afraid about character recycling on the bazaar, why they have the character bazaar at all? The bazaar itself is the place where characters get recycled, a service to change the name wouldnt make a difference. Or maybe changing the name would even reduce the use of the Bazaar, since old players would rather just change their name instead of starting from the beginning again to achieve their new "identity" in New Eden.
And the ID stuff is just how every database works. EVE ones is absolutly no exception. So the character name is just a value in the database and can easily be changed like any other information in your characters database entry. This means if you link for example "Asudem" in a chat and I would rename myself into "WantToF*** ReallyHard", the link in the chat would still link to my characters profile and you would notice that I changed my name. Its the same for EVEMails, Notices or whatever. Also if you would have my API key or vCode, your third party tool would update the name. Its just how DBs work. Otherwise CCP wouldnt change names that violates the EULA, but rather just banhammer those characters because it would mess with the DB. |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard. United We Stand.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:44:00 -
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As OP wrote each account have an ID which authenticates your account and password when logging in. That ID also contains all 3 chars you have on said ID. Changing name is nothing more than renaming a file. So there is nothing to be afraid of. The bazaar is worse as I see it since you just biomass one of your own and buy new one.
Other games have it and it works well. Just a question to do it right. |
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Emma Royd
Jupiter Industries C0LD Fusion
101
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:32:00 -
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So now you expect everybody to trawl through your past aliases to see if you're name is one they recognise for being a scammer / corp thief / greifer etc?
You make your bed, so lie in it, it's a name ffs. If the fact that you no longer like your chosen name is that much of a game breaker, then I suggest that eve isn't the game for you, there's far more things to get upset about than your name.
There's been so many threads about this in the past, and it's never been taken up by CCP, and I hope it never does, your name is your reputation, get known as a scammer, griefer etc, and you've got 2 choices, put up with it (hey, you chose your actions), or Sell/Biomass the char and start again.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
138
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:35:00 -
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Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
I can ride a bycicle in real life, does not been it would be a benefit or have any place in Eve.
Names are your reputation.... reputation is everything in Eve.
No to namechanges.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard. United We Stand.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 12:19:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
I can ride a bycicle in real life, does not been it would be a benefit or have any place in Eve. Names are your reputation.... reputation is everything in Eve. No to namechanges. That argument does not hold.
I can sell my char legally on the bazaar and buy new one. I cannot do that in real life.
I really fail to see why there is so much resistance against this - seriously. Scammers use the bazaar.
I interviewed a bloke last night as he wanted to join our corp. We talk in team speak where the alliance directior also was present. His voice was recognised right away + his api and key looked fishy. Turns out he had been kicked from the alliance before and was trying to enter again with a new bought toon from the bazaar.
Why so much resistance against a name change when you basically can do it through bazaar already ?
Your arguments does not hold water imho.
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Asudem
Asen of Asgard
17
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:31:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote: I can ride a bycicle in real life, does not been it would be a benefit or have any place in Eve.
Names are your reputation.... reputation is everything in Eve.
No to namechanges.
Reputation is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.... Your reputation can change so quickly so easily, it wont matter. Know those guys who killed their own corp members for profit in Gallente space? No? Forgotten in less than 3 months! I just remember one because I have him/her in my contact list with a note in his/her profile that I will kill him/her. Otherwise I would had forgot him/her a long time ago. So much for reputation. Exceptions of this are ppl like chribba or alliances like Rooks and Kings. But that is really rare. So giving a name some reputation will only last until you forget about it - I bet its even less than a month, most ppl forget even in 2 weeks or less. Only killmales and your corp history show you quite some story and there is the story you can tell with your character, but therefore a name is just smoke and mirrors as well.
Just a side note: CCP mentioned in their 2h+ presentation of the fanfest that they plan to advance the customization of your avatar, if Im not mistaken. This idea is basicly one step in that direction + it provides some ISK sink and since it is limited to those with a good sec status for example, suicide ganker maybe will never be able to change. While thinking about the last point, is it that why you are so obsessed about it? Just wondering. |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
653
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:03:00 -
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Asudem wrote: If they are afraid about character recycling on the bazaar, why they have the character bazaar at all? The bazaar itself is the place where characters get recycled, a service to change the name wouldnt make a difference. Or maybe changing the name would even reduce the use of the Bazaar, since old players would rather just change their name instead of starting from the beginning again to achieve their new "identity" in New Eden.
Changing the name of an established character opens a whole new set of problems -- a player that chooses to harass another, and gets on their victim's block list, would just be able to change their name and go around the block. Unrepentant scammers would just be able to change their names and escape the consequinces of their actions.
CCP said a while back that they don't want to give players a way to 'escape' from the results of their character's choices. If you have a bounty on your head, you'll have to deal with it. If you've pis**ed off someone's entire corporation, then you're really up the creek, but -- too bad -- the end result is yours to deal with.
In the offline world, a criminal's name is plastered across the news. He can call himself 'Bob' all he wants, but if someone recognizes him as 'Fred the Escaped Convict', he's going to go back to jail. It's the same thing in EvE -- you can't just walk away from your past like nothing ever happened. I can't get rid of my darn signature!-á Oh, wait.... |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
17
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:30:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote: Changing the name of an established character opens a whole new set of problems -- a player that chooses to harass another, and gets on their victim's block list, would just be able to change their name and go around the block. Unrepentant scammers would just be able to change their names and escape the consequinces of their actions.
It wont happen, because a database works with IDs and if you change your name you dont change your ID so basicly links, contact lists, KMs ect. would be untouched by the change of that persons name and so personal notices, bounty ect. wouldnt be affected too. And since you can change only ONCE PER YEAR, you have enough time to track someone down.
Astrid Stjerna wrote:CCP said a while back that they don't want to give players a way to 'escape' from the results of their character's choices. If you have a bounty on your head, you'll have to deal with it. If you've pis**ed off someone's entire corporation, then you're really up the creek, but -- too bad -- the end result is yours to deal with.
Do they actually play EVE? Im not sure, but I think it is quite easy to escape someones wrath since EVE is a huge universe and if you arent a dumbass you will survive in it regardless who is hunting you down. At least as a single person. If you mess up in Amarr space, just move to Gallente space and start anew.
Astrid Stjerna wrote:In the offline world, a criminal's name is plastered across the news. He can call himself 'Bob' all he wants, but if someone recognizes him as 'Fred the Escaped Convict', he's going to go back to jail. It's the same thing in EvE -- you can't just walk away from your past like nothing ever happened.
It is not what I wanted to do with this idea. It is more like an additional way of personalisation since you grow with your character and like Solid Rock you become more mature and your name sounds too childish and you dont want to throw away years of progress - which would eradicate a part of EVEs history in fact. As for me, I am wandet to change my name a little bit to bring it on a level with my non-EVE-project, but I put so much work into this character, I cannot allow myself to throw that away. Even if Im bad in PVP, I gathered alot of experiences in that time and I want to keep that history up - I might just rename once in my whole career on this toon. Maybe Im an Autist, but thats a different story. |

Iman Atheist
Painless Gain Ventures
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:43:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Maybe each character has an ID, so you could change your name, but not your ID. Thus preventing naming scams.
THIS |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:50:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:[quote=Asudem]In the offline world, a criminal's name is plastered across the news. He can call himself 'Bob' all he wants, but if someone recognizes him as 'Fred the Escaped Convict', he's going to go back to jail. It's the same thing in EvE -- you can't just walk away from your past like nothing ever happened.
And this is ofcourse why witness protection programs never work and criminals on the run are always caught. Because humans are completely impossible to fool and everyone has an eidetic memory for faces.
Regardless of the myriad ways in which a feature such as this is perceivably open to abuse i have yet to hear one that is still a credible threat to the games integrity assuming a 12 month cooldown. How often do you reckon the average EVE criminal finds himself up **** creek? How many EVE players do you know of who are entirely solitary? The name is only a superficial part of a character and, as i have sated earlier, if someone wants you found it will require quite a bit more than a simple name change to stay hidden. You might get a few days or even a week or two in the clear before you are right back where you started, unless you are willing to cut all ties with your friends and start over completely. People who are willing to go this far are probably already doing so using new characters bought from the bazaar. |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.31 20:09:00 -
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Spot on Solid Rock and Asudem.
Seriously - this is not rocket science but more a question of willing than anything else as I read the posts. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
63
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:08:00 -
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Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion
No. In a sand box game like eve your name is your identity and is tied to a history of acts that effect you player to player reputation. I believe you should never be able to change a name once it's penned. Especially since the sale of a character could depend on that character rep.. actions in eve should have consequences - not all based on game mechanics.
I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
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Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:12:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote: I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp.
Again, assuming a 12 month cooldown, even if this feature had been introduced on launch day no one character could possibly have more than 9 aliases. The reality of the thing is that you may have to look through 3 or 4 past aliases or, in the case of most players, none.
As for the character trading, are you honestly suggesting that it is a good thing that it is possible to buy someone elses reputation? Potentially wiping your slate clean is a terrible idea but the ability to take on someone elses past achievements completely undeserved is one of the things that makes EVE great? If anything a name wipe aught to be mandatory for traded characters, everyone is afraid of scammers and other criminals escaping justice but have you considered that it is currently possible to buy good-will? |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
17
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:49:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote: I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp.
You are only making it hard for yourself. Such a person is added to the corp contacts and has a bad standing (eg -10). And you still can leave a notice in that persons profile so YOU WILL remember on the first look why you dont want to let that player join your corp or whatever. No matter how often that person renames itself, even if that pilot is on the other bun of New Eden, you will remember that person and see how his/her current name is no matter what. This name changing will only allow someone to escape the reputation if you are a dumb. And in this case, that person would escape its reputation even without the service to change names.
Thats how I handle my personal list of people that will never join my corp and it works really well while it is just a few seconds up to one minute of time you spend.
Your reputation changes or better evolves through your actions not through your names. If you didnt get that then you didnt understand the way EVE is. |

Ariete
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 11:15:00 -
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I have played a few games where you could rename, I wish you could rename in eve. In all the other games when you renamed a character the game has updated all records of the old name to the new name. So any lists of banned names from corps would be updated to the new name, any contracts etc etc. So i don't see it an issue there as for time limit most have 30 days.
Wether CCP would do it , I would say no. |

Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
66
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Posted - 2012.04.01 11:28:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Asudem wrote: If they are afraid about character recycling on the bazaar, why they have the character bazaar at all? The bazaar itself is the place where characters get recycled, a service to change the name wouldnt make a difference. Or maybe changing the name would even reduce the use of the Bazaar, since old players would rather just change their name instead of starting from the beginning again to achieve their new "identity" in New Eden.
Changing the name of an established character opens a whole new set of problems -- a player that chooses to harass another, and gets on their victim's block list, would just be able to change their name and go around the block. Unrepentant scammers would just be able to change their names and escape the consequinces of their actions. CCP said a while back that they don't want to give players a way to 'escape' from the results of their character's choices. If you have a bounty on your head, you'll have to deal with it. If you've pis**ed off someone's entire corporation, then you're really up the creek, but -- too bad -- the end result is yours to deal with. In the offline world, a criminal's name is plastered across the news. He can call himself 'Bob' all he wants, but if someone recognizes him as 'Fred the Escaped Convict', he's going to go back to jail. It's the same thing in EvE -- you can't just walk away from your past like nothing ever happened.
No because the block don't use character name, but char ID number from the database. If you block me and I change name, I'd remain blocked under a new name, because my char ID doesn't change.
Technically its easy to implement. |

Rimase
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
11
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:26:00 -
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I want to change my name. |

Wastelander Miccey
Umbrella Holding Inc Umbrella Chemical Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 16:55:00 -
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What about Character/Toon transfers?!?
If i would transfer THIS toon to another player, the "Toon" identity would be GONE?! Right..
The Reputation is still there yes, BUT the NEW player is in NO way responsible for the toons PAST is he now..
I would vote YES on a a way to change CharacterName. But not at any cost..
A Isk cost YES Security standing shouldnt matter imho Once a year, hmm no..That wouldnt be good... Special stations perhaps. With a Medical Fac. OR a PRIME system
But YES to namechange
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7390
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Posted - 2012.04.01 17:14:00 -
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Asudem wrote:MushroomMushroom wrote:Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players. Not supposed to be. Criminals shall not rename themselfes, thats the only reason for the sec status requirement. Being a pirate is a sanctioned and well loved way of life within this sandbox we call Eve. That alone quite frankly, makes your arbitrary limit upon sec status look like a joke.
Also, no.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard.
10
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Posted - 2012.04.01 17:34:00 -
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Ok as said before:
1) We are talking about a database where any entry have an id. Changing name of any records bound to that id doesnt change anything except the name of the said record. The same id is tied to any blockings, reputation, ships, containers, alts, main, jump clones, skills - basically everything you have accumulated on your account.
2) As I said before - it is not rocket science more a question of willing to do it.
Seriously do any of you think changing a record in database is such a big deal?
Phone companies, aviation companies, logistic companies, pharmaceutical companies, dataware houses, hosting facilities - you name more - You really think they lose track if a company calls and say, 'Hey we are not longer named XX but now XY, please change.' 'Ohhh... sry we cannot do that - cause we just ... eh .... uhm ... we dont want to, ok?'
Most other mmorpgs offer this service for either real money or ingame money - but they offer it and from what I've seen - asshats gets recognized cause a name does not change your personality.
Give me one good and descent reason besides, 'Oh but scammers/criminals bla bla bla' - not valid.
It is a question of
- Will to implement it - Implement it right
Period! |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
18
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Posted - 2012.04.01 17:53:00 -
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I removed the point that a sec status is needed. Also I think this service could be offered on specific stations for politics. I dont think medical stations fit right into that, but maybe thats just my opinion.
As said, it isnt a big deal of work. A hand full of devs can work out that concept and take the responsebility for testing while just 1-3 are needed to sacrifice a few lunch breaks for this. It could be done within a week (for concept, implementing, testing ect.) and it would take that much time away from the bug fixing team. |

Dantes Wolf
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:54:00 -
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+1
I'm pretty happy about my name, but need to change it on account of a historical glitch: The Wolf in Dantes Devine Comedy is a Female, so.. ye.. lol - but in short, signed and let it happen, if nothing else, stop the frenzy on "one year cooldown" but let it be a paid service, still with the public namechange/I'D showing up and leading to the same toon ( now with a new name ) instead of the cooldown - it'll give CCP an economic incitement to actually go forward with it, prevent it from being overly abused and ultimately give senior players like "Caldari Citizen 1012010202003" with his 120 Mil SP's a chance to be taken seriously for a change.
And yes, i understand the lore issue, the abusive issue and all the other points made, but.. seriously, fact is most of us making the first year will be here on and off for proberbly the rest of our lives, in smaller or larger scale, and players do get older and change..
I'm for it.
Dantes Plot of The Crying Game: She's a guy. |
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
63
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:01:00 -
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Solid Rock wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote: I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp.
Again, assuming a 12 month cooldown, even if this feature had been introduced on launch day no one character could possibly have more than 9 aliases. The reality of the thing is that you may have to look through 3 or 4 past aliases or, in the case of most players, none. As for the character trading, are you honestly suggesting that it is a good thing that it is possible to buy someone elses reputation? Potentially wiping your slate clean is a terrible idea but the ability to take on someone elses past achievements completely undeserved is one of the things that makes EVE great? If anything a name wipe aught to be mandatory for traded characters, everyone is afraid of scammers and other criminals escaping justice but have you considered that it is currently possible to buy good-will?
3 would be too much.. to have to reason each name.. for every applicant.. sorry but it's a bad idea. much easier to not allow name changes at all than have to worry about it. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
18
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Posted - 2012.04.02 00:17:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote: 3 would be too much.. to have to reason each name.. for every applicant.. sorry but it's a bad idea. much easier to not allow name changes at all than have to worry about it.
#22 |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2012.04.02 11:00:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:3 would be too much.. to have to reason each name.. for every applicant.. sorry but it's a bad idea. much easier to not allow name changes at all than have to worry about it.
So thats your argument? That you are too lazy to want to spend a little longer mulling over an applicant. You are assuming that everyone will start changing their names as often as they possibly can yet this is very unlikely to be the case. There will be perhaps 1 in a dozen applicant with an alias, in fact it may even make things easier.
Consider this, how often will a law abiding player have cause to change their name? Once or twice in a decade perhaps? No more often than every 2 or 3 years atleast. So if you get a corp applicant with a list of, well for the sake of the argument lets say, 7 or 8 aliases on a 3 year old character. Would you really need to look into every one of those aliases to know that he is most likely a bad egg? |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3624
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:08:00 -
[34] - Quote
Character Bazzar That Away -> <- CCP saying Never Ever This Away
My only and final stance on this is allow a one time oppertunity to change a name when flipping an account from trial to full.
This game has concequences deal with it.
Also it appears anyone supporting this idea doesnt work in the intel sector.
Also anyone that ever gets thier name changed is likely to never be allowed into another player corp ever again.
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The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen.
20
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:17:00 -
[35] - Quote
Barbara Nichole wrote:Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion No. In a sand box game like eve your name is your identity and is tied to a history of acts that effect you player to player reputation. I believe you should never be able to change a name once it's penned. Especially since the sale of a character could depend on that character rep.. actions in eve should have consequences - not all based on game mechanics. I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp.
Isn't that what employment history is like? It just shows that they had a different name at one time.
I'm happy with this as long as there is a rather large cool down before you can do it again. Maybe one or two years. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3626
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:29:00 -
[36] - Quote
The Hamilton wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion No. In a sand box game like eve your name is your identity and is tied to a history of acts that effect you player to player reputation. I believe you should never be able to change a name once it's penned. Especially since the sale of a character could depend on that character rep.. actions in eve should have consequences - not all based on game mechanics. I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp. Isn't that what employment history is like? It just shows that they had a different name at one time. I'm happy with this as long as there is a rather large cool down before you can do it again. Maybe one or two years.
Large employment histories are much easier to read than a name change log. Was in this corp for 2 months, corp closed on him, was in next corp 4 months corp closed. wsa in corp 3 months corp closed.
Hmmm. sounds like a real winner. Most recruiters get lazier and dont even bother anyone with extremly large corp histories. Name change histories I can seen having lesser mercy because it shows your inability to think ahead.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
650
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:59:00 -
[37] - Quote
Reputation is one of the few things that provides any sense of immersion in this game and is more important then SP or isk - there is no justification for making it changeable. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1267
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:13:00 -
[38] - Quote
I'd only endorse this in the event of character tranfers. After all, it's already stated that pretending to be the previous owner of a character is against the rules, so why not just force us to rename characters when they are traded?
(yes I know some people would use this to change names on spies and infiltrators. Their employment history would stay, and they could add a name change to the history as well) It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

Zubrette
The Skunkworks
10
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:26:00 -
[39] - Quote
No, if you bought Kartoon's character, you should have to realize that it's coming with a big load of animosity. This is a game where your actions should have penalty/reward.
No name changing, not even if you bought an excellent character with a horrific name, people would just juggle characters between accounts once they griefed enough to where their name was incredibly popular. CEO's would do that once they scam their alliances out of billions of isk.
It's not practical, it's not okay, it's a horrible idea. |

None ofthe Above
161
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:43:00 -
[40] - Quote
How about with an easily accessible name history? Much like the employment history?
I do think the cooldowns and cost make sense. 1 time per year for a PLEX maybe?
EDIT: I see Floppy beat me to this. I also agree that it should probably be REQUIRED or at least allowed when you buy a character, for the very reason that it's illegal to impersonate the old player. New name (but with a record of the change) fixes that. Could even note the character changed hands there in the name history.
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Asudem
Asen of Asgard
19
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Posted - 2012.04.03 04:50:00 -
[41] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Reputation is one of the few things that provides any sense of immersion in this game and is more important then SP or isk - there is no justification for making it changeable.
If you want to escape your bad reputation you will be able to do it already, unless you are ********. If you have a pretty much unknown alt you are already out of your rep. Or you can create a new alt, by a char on the bazaar or just sell your old char to yourself and pretend to be a whole new player. I bet it is possible and noone would even notice the difference.
EVE is like real life. If you want to escape your reputation you WILL find a way to do it. Changing your name WILL NOT make any difference for the better or the worse of this situation. |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
19
|
Posted - 2012.04.03 04:54:00 -
[42] - Quote
Zubrette wrote:No, if you bought Kartoon's character, you should have to realize that it's coming with a big load of animosity. This is a game where your actions should have penalty/reward.
Justice is the invention of the human mind. You can already avoid penalty. If your corp gets scammed by your CEO that person will escape rather with reward than any punishment. If you want to escape, you will find a way to do it in time... |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1063
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Posted - 2012.04.03 07:26:00 -
[43] - Quote
Yes.
As for the corp thief argument, also remember that: -There will be name history -Identity changes happen in real life -Separate, untraceable alt accounts and communication over teamspeak/vent (where all IMPORTANT decisions are made) already mean that the sandbox is broken. Someone's character name doesn't matter when they can just sub an alt to spy |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
2
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Posted - 2012.04.03 08:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:This game has concequences deal with it.
It certainly does, I am not sure why you would think that this is relevant here however. Unless of course you assume that name changes are only relevant to people trying to escape said consequences
Nova Fox wrote:Also anyone that ever gets thier name changed is likely to never be allowed into another player corp ever again.
Perhaps, perhaps not. It all depends on the corp you are trying to join. Most corps aren't worth stealing from or spying on. At any rate, should it not be left up to the individual to decide whether or not they wanna risk it? Or should we foam pad our missiles as well while we are at it?
You seem to imply that I, and others like me should have had the foresight to pick a better name. But how much foresight did any of you have as a teenager? I created this character almost a decade ago, when I did so I was a teen with a shiny new game. EVE was still new, and rather tiny back then. This was before WOW came along and made MMO's something everyone played, i couldn't possibly have known that this shiny new toy would actually come to have an impact on my life.
And now here i sit 8 years later, a grown man stuck with the same stupid name. How could i possibly expect to be taken seriously? This, i believe, is the very reason we do not let kids name themselves. |

Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard.
10
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Posted - 2012.04.03 08:48:00 -
[45] - Quote
Scammers, criminals and the works do not wish to be found, but chances are they will be eventually - no question about it. They can run but cannot hide no matter what tricks they try to pull of.
Changing name does not change your personality - if you love being an asshat in an online game no matter what alts you create, toons you buy, accounts you have - you will end up keep doing what you love in said game.
I sincerely do not see what you no sayers are so afraid of. As I mentioned in earlier post - I had an interview with a bloke looking to join our ranks. I had our former alliance director with me on TS - and the guy was recognized right away despite the fact he had bought said toon.
I have witnessed in other game chats people going, 'X is a scammer. Avoid him.' - reaction? After two days of reporting it and the community goes, yeah -- so what? Deal with it.
Point is 1) Eventually people around you will stop care. 2) Just deal with it 3) Changing of the name does not matter cause he / she will eventually be recognized 4) repeat 1 - 3 over and over again
As mentioned before and not just by me - other mmorpgs offers this service and it works. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
975
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping)
* Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion
I like the idea if:
*all account tag for bot or RMT is excluded from using this service
*ccp does something about the XxtrolxX-trollollololololiloollooooollzzzzzboulzzzzzzxxttreljkhgljkhiouhujknxxXX silliness
*policy preventing sex or sex related names, xenophobia criminal or racist names replaced by "I'm an idiot tr+á+ál+ál+á"
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Asudem
Asen of Asgard
21
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
I think bots and RMTs are already get banned for good, so they shouldnt be able to do anything. And I asked CCP if they could change my name a while back and they told me that they only do if the name violates with the EULA / terms of use. So I guess crazy uber long names, sexistical, racist abuse ect will be renamed in something CCP like if the characters dont get deleted or the whole account banned. So I wouldnt worry about that. :P |

Xemnus
Dark Star Confederation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:38:00 -
[48] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1049217#post1049217 |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
21
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:45:00 -
[49] - Quote
Well, it would be better if we just stick to this thread since there are already some ideas to implement it into the gameplay. |

Black Dranzer
212
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:53:00 -
[50] - Quote
Yes, please.
I liked Beyblades seven years ago.
Nowadays, not such a big fan. |
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Atkyaz Dreadstalker
Division One Trade and Aquisition
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:14:00 -
[51] - Quote
There are plenty of perfectly good reasons why a player would want a name change
Like myself for instance. This is a name I have used in Video games for far longer than I have been playing EVE. I have no issue with the name or my nearly no existent reputation. However nobody in Team Speak, Mumble, or Vent can seem to pronounce it. To the point where it has hindered my game play as FC's don't like giving orders to players if they can not say there name. True I could roll a new toon, but this toon has over 30 mil SP. I will not give up several years of training to change my name, I would however be willing to pay for the service
Also the character Bazaar, Many of the characters sold on the Bazaar are bought by newer players not wanting to wait for training time. How is a new player supposed to know about the reputation of the character they are buying? At the same time there may be a freighter pilot for sale with a very good reputation that the new owner would exploit and scam the former owners loyal customers. In my opinion name changes should be mandatory when a character changes accounts
I like the idea of a public name history as it does allow players to see if that character was a former enemy, I would however take it a step further. When a name is changed it would either automatically update everywhere, so if you had them blocked they would still be blocked, All their standings would stay, if you set them to negative standings, they would still be negative after the name change. Combine this with a mail notification to anyone having that character in their contacts list(good/nuetral/bad and blocked are all in contact list) that the character has changed accounts, indicating the new name and old name. Give others the option of resetting standing to that character or maintain current contact status
As far as making spying easier, I really do not see it. If the character standings and contact info is kept, and there is a publicly viewable name history, they can not hide who they were. They may say they bought the character when they really only transferred it to another account, but you would know who they were and have the choice to trust them or not. Besides most spying is done by alts which have no visible affiliation at all to the main character on that account. This would not give any advantage they do not already have from another mechanic to anyone seeking to spy on their enemies. Using spying as a reason to appose character name changing is bullshit
Although I believe a player should neither benefit from, or be punished for, the reputation of a character they bought, I do see potential exploits if the slate was wiped clean. By having a public name history, and maintaining the contacts status, despite the name change seems to me as a good compromise.
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Atkyaz Dreadstalker
Division One Trade and Aquisition
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Emma Royd wrote:So now you expect everybody to trawl through your past aliases to see if you're name is one they recognise for being a scammer / corp thief / greifer etc?
Not even close. Nothing would change except the name. If you had them blocked as a scammer they would still be blocked. If you had them set to negative status in your contacts that would all stay the same. Nothing would change but the name. like you would even remember the names of the scammers you had blocked, so you would probably not even notice the name change in you contacts/blocked lists.
Emma Royd wrote:You make your bed, so lie in it, it's a name ffs. If the fact that you no longer like your chosen name is that much of a game breaker, then I suggest that eve isn't the game for you, there's far more things to get upset about than your name.
If name changing is so small a thing then why are you even worried about it? Nobody is forcing you to participate. But there are many who would like to change there name for very valid reasons.
Emma Royd wrote:There's been so many threads about this in the past, and it's never been taken up by CCP, and I hope it never does, your name is your reputation, get known as a scammer, griefer etc, and you've got 2 choices, put up with it (hey, you chose your actions), or Sell/Biomass the char and start again.
Perhaps the reason why there have been so many threads about this topic is because there are many players that see it as a needed addition. You may not need it, but why does everyone need to play your way? This is about options, nobody is forcing you to use the option. Besides scammers, and grievers are generally alt characters. You do not know who there main is, or how many of the scammers/grievers in your contacts list are from the same account or player. If properly implemented it would make it easier not harder to keep track of those you hate. |

Black Dranzer
213
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:34:00 -
[53] - Quote
Atkyaz Dreadstalker wrote:=I have no issue with the name or my nearly no existent reputation. However nobody in Team Speak, Mumble, or Vent can seem to pronounce it. I know that feel.
I've been called "Drazner" more times than I can count. |

Atkyaz Dreadstalker
Division One Trade and Aquisition
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.03 18:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Barbara Nichole wrote:Asudem wrote:Changing Character name shouldnt be a big thing to do. You can do it real life by paying money to the regulator agency (at least in Germany) so I thought why it shouldnt be possible in EVE
Needed for changing * 200 mil ISK cost or 10 mil per letter to change * Possible only once per year (like the attribute remapping) * Security Standing of 5. * Characters on subscripted accounts only
Only on stations of one of the empire factions in H- and LSec.
Added to this idea: * Public viewable name history.
A nice to have feature for more customization as long as the desired name is possible. Open for discussion No. In a sand box game like eve your name is your identity and is tied to a history of acts that effect you player to player reputation. I believe you should never be able to change a name once it's penned. Especially since the sale of a character could depend on that character rep.. actions in eve should have consequences - not all based on game mechanics. I really don't like the idea of having to sift through mountains of alis' to determine if any player is someone I need to avoid allowing into my corp.
So you have a problem with a player changing their name to escape a bad reputation. but you do not have a problem with a player exploiting the good reputation of a character they bought. Possibly using it to exploit or scam the players who trust the good reputation? This goes both ways. In fact I would expect it far more likely to successfully scam players familiar with the good reputation than to scam someone with a new name and no reputation.
Generally if you have been scammed or grieved by a player enough to recognize them by their name you will have them in your contacts list with a negative standing. If they change that name the negative standing that character has in your contacts list will still be there, with a list of their previous names. No extra work, no issues. Just a new name. If the name change was combined with a mail to anyone who had that character in there contacts list notifying them of the change, including if it was part of a character transfer to another account. What would the problem be. |

MiltGyver
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
2
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:54:00 -
[55] - Quote
I think it might be good to give the ability to set how a person is displayed if they are in your contacts or block list.
Say you have someone named Donkey in your contacts, and he changes his name to Ass, you would still be able to have them displayed everywhere as Donkey because they are in your contacts. There should be a selection for that in the contact's info/properties, probably combined with the place that shows the aliases. People that aren't in your contacts will just be displayed by their latest name. |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
MiltGyver wrote:People that aren't in your contacts will just be displayed by their latest name.
Quite a lot of characters dont have last names though, the early character creator did not encourage them like the later ones have. |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
27
|
Posted - 2012.04.04 08:38:00 -
[57] - Quote
Indeed. Changing your name nowadays would mean adding a last name if you have non already. And I wouldnt mind that btw. |

Xemnus
Dark Star Confederation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:52:00 -
[58] - Quote
Asudem wrote:Indeed. Changing your name nowadays would mean adding a last name if you have non already. And I wouldnt mind that btw.
That's all I want.
Also.. Bump. |

MiltGyver
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
2
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Posted - 2012.04.05 06:19:00 -
[59] - Quote
Solid Rock wrote:MiltGyver wrote:People that aren't in your contacts will just be displayed by their latest name. Quite a lot of characters dont have last names though, the early character creator did not encourage them like the later ones have.
I said latest, not last. Latest meaning the name since their last name change, their current name. |

Zarnak Wulf
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
300
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:07:00 -
[60] - Quote
I'm never going to buy a character on the bazaar named 'Alottavagina'. Just sayin'. |
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ElQuirko
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
505
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:25:00 -
[61] - Quote
This would destroy killboards
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |

Xemnus
Dark Star Confederation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
ElQuirko wrote:This would destroy killboards
Not exactly... we... maybe.
They would have to just change it to an ID number instead.
Killboards ain't nothing but showing off that I ganked one person with ten other people anyway. |

Solid Rock
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
5
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 21:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
ElQuirko wrote:This would destroy killboards
I dont see why it shouldnt be possible to make killboards continue to function. And again, I doubt name changes will be a frequent occurence if it is implemented. |

CaleAdaire
Gunnery Solutions Incorporated
46
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:17:00 -
[64] - Quote
I just want to put a space between my first and last name. When I first started I was under the impression that names could only be one word. Just sayin. Please stop asking for new stuff "Cuz it's neat".-á
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:02:00 -
[65] - Quote
too much potential for mischef.. I vote no. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Corundum
Punishers Without Mercy Bipolar Stability
8
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Posted - 2012.04.11 08:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
Bump |

Admiral Lysander
EVE Syndicate Navy Surely You're Joking
21
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:49:00 -
[67] - Quote
MushroomMushroom wrote:Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players.
and scammers dnt exploit **** like crazy lol
mebe have it part of the aurum store?
the game simulates real life but in space an u can legualy have ur name changed in real life. so why not in fake life |

Admiral Lysander
EVE Syndicate Navy Surely You're Joking
21
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:50:00 -
[68] - Quote
Xemnus wrote:ElQuirko wrote:This would destroy killboards Not exactly... we... maybe. They would have to just change it to an ID number instead. Killboards ain't nothing but showing off that I ganked one person with ten other people anyway.
and kill boards are API based not name |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3729
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:12:00 -
[69] - Quote
Not all killboard use API coding.
Also API coding is a bit screwy if you dont work with it too well for example all the module name changes never changed the items id number but OH boy did the killboards screw up.
Also there been four times in the past CCP has said no no and no and never. CCP rarely says never to an idea. Want an exmaple of another idea they said never to? 30 gun slots on a capital ship.
I will only accept a name change outside the account trail flip to full. and just to show that I am willing to change and not be set in stone I say anytime you change your name set your skill points, books, and every assest to 0
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Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
17
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Posted - 2012.04.11 20:53:00 -
[70] - Quote
MushroomMushroom wrote:Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players.
I like the idea of a nameing history just like your employment history. Perhaps that could also allow your contacts list to key on the naming history.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.04.11 21:23:00 -
[71] - Quote
Admiral Lysander wrote:MushroomMushroom wrote:Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players. and scammers dnt exploit **** like crazy lol mebe have it part of the aurum store? the game simulates real life but in space an u can legualy have ur name changed in real life. so why not in fake life
There are a lot of things you are not able to do in game by design that you can do in real life. Want me to make a list? In EVE you are not allowed to avoid consequences for some actions. Scamming is ok in eve; changing your name to avoid the consequence of bad rep from that action is not. There is no legal way to track criminals in the game world who change their name and their face.. thus no, it's a terrible idea to allow name changes in EVE.
I still vote no. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Xemnus
Mechanical Eagles Inc. The Ancients.
7
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Posted - 2012.04.11 23:01:00 -
[72] - Quote
Barbara Nichole wrote:Admiral Lysander wrote:MushroomMushroom wrote:Are you insane? Our name is most of our identity in Eve. This service would be exploited like crazy by every scammer, corp thief and aspiring spy in the game. Maybe if there were some safeguards like a publicly viewable naming history there would be a plausible argument for this, but without at least that, NO WAY IN HELL.
Also, the arbitrary 5.0 security status thing makes no sense, security status damaging activity is one of the things that does not create a bad reputation amongst players. and scammers dnt exploit **** like crazy lol mebe have it part of the aurum store? the game simulates real life but in space an u can legualy have ur name changed in real life. so why not in fake life There are a lot of things you are not able to do in game by design that you can do in real life. Want me to make a list? In EVE you are not allowed to avoid consequences for some actions. Scamming is ok in eve; changing your name to avoid the consequence of bad rep from that action is not. There is no legal way to track criminals in the game world who change their name and their face.. thus no, it's a terrible idea to allow name changes in EVE. I still vote no.
We heard you the first time... how many times are you going to say no..? |

Asudem
Asen of Asgard
28
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Posted - 2012.04.12 00:23:00 -
[73] - Quote
@ Barbara Still the same arguments? Im sick of giving the same answer over and over again.
@ Nova Fox Killboards should use API and item IDs, IMO unless its a KB not worth to mention after all. Well, lets see what CCP will say to this in the feature. Probably the time will come when CCP thinks it could be a useful service especially if most of the community want it. Just saying that never is nothing more than a no with an expiration date. (Im not saying that your example of caps with 30 gun slots should be implemented. That crap has an even much faster expiration time.) |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3730
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:28:00 -
[74] - Quote
Its just a problem that the database cannot co-exist as two enteries at the same time.
The reason why I mentioned ccp is for one purpose only.
CCP does not shoot down ideas.
So when they put thier foot down on something its a general rule around not to talk about it agian. Ever.
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Knives Stabbyhands
ALLIED TACTICAL TECHNOLOGIES
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 21:33:00 -
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Seriously, this service would be GREAT. I made this name as a joke, since I thought I never would go past the trial period. Well... here I am regretting that.
Anyways, I would love to change my name ASAP, even if an "AKA: Fuckingstupidname" shows up somewhere in my character info... |

0August0
Gooch Unlimited
24
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Posted - 2012.04.23 19:05:00 -
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+1 for the idea. For a long time i've wanted to get rid of the zeros flanking my name. |

Norjia Blacksteel
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:24:00 -
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Solid Rock wrote:I for one would welcome an opportunity to change my character name, it has been 8 years since i made this character and i havent gone by Solid Rock in most other setings for the past 6 of those. It is also worth noting that i was only 15 years old at the time, and as i have become older and more mature i worry that the rather silly name may prevent me from being taken seriously. Yet i do no want to loose 8 years worth of game progress for the sake of a name either
Your name isn't so bad. It wouldn't give me cause to worry about what you're like. There are way worse names in the game than "Solid Rock". :) |

Ailinne
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:36:00 -
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My main was created back in 2003. Of course I was young and stupid 9 years back when I named the character, and time and time again the name was the biggest culprit preventing my return to EVE.
I'm not asking it for nothing - name the price and I'll be there. |

Trollin
23
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:48:00 -
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no point of name history, characters are sold all the time you cant trust who is at the keyboard anyway
I am +1 for changing them, id even pay AUR/real money
you should get a sunglasses icon next to your name for a month after a name change when posting ingame chats, even that will become meaning less over time . |

Trollin
23
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:50:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:This would destroy killboards
afaik, killboards arent provided by ccp, so not their problem . |
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ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2012.05.09 02:03:00 -
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OH GOD NOT THIS F*****G IDEA AGAIN
Asudem wrote:@ Barbara Still the same arguments? Im sick of giving the same answer over and over again.
And the same back at you Asudem.
Your name is your reputation. Its the one constant in Eve - And If you're bad enough EVERYONE will remember you.
Do you want Mittens to change his name every day ? Do you want Sir Molle to become Lady Molly ? Do you remember the ID Number or the Name of the guy who stole 80 Billion form your corp ?
I thought not
If these people can't change their names then neither can you.
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Asudem
Asen of Asgard
31
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:18:00 -
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ThisIsntMyMain wrote: Your name is your reputation. Its the one constant in Eve - And If you're bad enough EVERYONE will remember you.
I disagree. You can escape your reputation and you can change it. Unless you do something really big to leave a mark in EVEs history, your reputation will vanish in New Eden. And I guess about 99,99% of EVE players, including me, arent that big numbres in EVE. You in personal might wont forget people, but EVE does. The mark you leave is small and meaningless. The reputation is mostly important to your local society. If you move it might change or you start anew.
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Do you want Mittens to change his name every day ?
Once per year, not every day. Yes, I want to.
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Do you want Sir Molle to become Lady Molly ?
Why not? Dont care at all.
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Do you remember the ID Number or the Name of the guy who stole 80 Billion form your corp ?
I would, if there is someone who would stole me 80 bil ISK. There is no doubt about that, because Im not ******** enough to forget that easy. |
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