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Wraiths	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:31:00 - [1] I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week
Korinn The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:34:00 - [2] No.
Helen coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:35:00 - [3] hahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Carin K Minmatar Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:40:00 - [4] Originally by: Wraiths i was a newspaper yesterday Me too, this sunday I'm a peach fruit \o/
MONOCERUS Strength Of New Ubik Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:42:00 - [5] lol
Mind Augas coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:42:00 - [6] This is Sp.... uhm i mean COAD!!!!!!!!!
MacGrowler III Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:48:00 - [7] 1, no ticker showing 2, NPC corp IBTL Need I say more ?
Evelgrivion Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:48:00 - [8] A fair point and a noble vision, though I think that ultimately, the thread is still off topic (and thus out of place) for Corporation, Alliances and Organizations Discussion. I don't know if the other replies thus far are simply ironic, or if they're only serving to reinforce your point. Either way, it's pretty damn sad; a year and a half ago, this was one of the friendliest communities online.
Mordred Shadow Battle Logistics and Mining Inc Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:50:00 - [9] Wait, did you just post something nice in CAOD? You want people to be civil with eachother? All this thread is going to do is paint one more target on your back for insults. It seems that the CAOD way is to flame, rant and rave about the most insignificant thing. It would be nice if there was a real forum for Alliances to share news and battle reports rather than this cess pool, but hey, this is all we've got. Fire away CAOD!
Kurt Ambrose Caldari Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:51:00 - [10] How i be newspaper?

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:56:00 - [11] I can live with all the hatred, smack and abuse, but the sarcasm just has to go. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:57:00 - [12] This is a great thread ^_____^
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:59:00 - [13] Why oh why can't eve be more like wow?
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:59:00 - [14] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 16/08/2008 09:59:35 The changing of COAD has more to do with people who do not "get" COAD than anything else. Remember WWE matches, were the people would chestbeat before a match? Or even a political broadcast before a election? Its the same thing here. Usually its Side A vs Side B and if Side B is loosing, then Side B's alts hit the forums to theorycraft etc. Sometimes Side B does not want to fight to defend 'pvp' territory so Side A has to goad them into doing so. Sometimes its personal history or something else. Sometimes its people doing randome trolls for a laugh since they can easaly manipulate Side A and Side B into making themselves look like fools. 98% of crap would dissapear overnight if people turned up to fight and did not get bitter about loosing. Sadly, in a game where stakes are as high and losses are permanent, that will never happen. -- Billion Isk Mission
Korinn The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.16 09:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Evelgrivion I don't know if the other replies thus far are simply ironic, or if they're only serving to reinforce your point. Either way, it's pretty damn sad; a year and a half ago, this was one of the friendliest communities online. Hey I was being nice
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:03:00 - [16] Originally by: Wraiths I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week Oh god is this online or only published in the paper? I want to find the author and milk them of sweet sweet tears so I can auction off said tears to the eve community so they too can taste the perfection of a crying nobody.
Angor BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:08:00 - [17] You mean to tell me there is a mmo forum out there where ppl dont ***** and flame each other... lies.. all lies. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Hungo Minmatar Social Players	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:09:00 - [18] Just read this lol V funny, however msot of the replys are simply reinforcing the poll and the guy whotested em or whatever lol just lol
David Miliband Evil Proctologists	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:12:00 - [19] The 'hatred', drama and hostile behaviour are CAOD's only redeeming features! What makes it a cess pitt is the spam (the rickrolls, the 'first' posts, the universally unfunny 'joke' threads, the one liner put downs etc)
Jim Lovell Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:12:00 - [20] haha wow and when i was a newpaper hmmm, but who cares if that reatrd thinks EVE is the worst game ever he put wow as number 1 0-o

Lemptie Gallente Glass House	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:33:00 - [21] If you don`t have nothing better to do then sit chatting in a station in Jita read this Fixing Online Gaming Idiocy: A Psychological Approach
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:34:00 - [22] I agree that this whole forum was a nicer place a couple of years ago. Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:38:00 - [23] [Insert scathing flames at the creator of the survey here.] -------- Ideas for: Mining
TerrorBaBy Nearly Feared	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:43:00 - [24] Hostile behaviour is what makes eve the best MMO out there...Name another game where if someone smacks me I can go suicide them in high sec. Not even 10% of the playerbase read these forums btw, probably not even 1% will actually read your post either... _______________ Originally by: Constance Harme It's like willfully getting into a car full of strangers and then being driven out to the woods and being shot.
Sidrat Flush Caldari Void Engineers	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:58:00 - [25] What exactly was the poll measuring. The friendliness on the forums or in game? No real player would actually go to most of these forums COAD especially and hope for an intelligent or at least a non-flaming reply/opinion. If the poll was conducted to measure in game helpfulness then he went about it the wrong way. In game people usually answer you positively or at the very least ignore you silently, which is much preferable than being flamed on a forum. Maybe the old saying "If you can't write anything nice, don't write anything at all" could be put on the main forum page? Life is about memories the more the better. http://lifeisexperience.freeforums.org (because it's a small corp)
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.08.16 11:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Lemptie If you don`t have nothing better to do then sit chatting in a station in Jita read this Fixing Online Gaming Idiocy: A Psychological Approach a good read and I agree with it, would subscribe to a newsletter. but Im still going to do my part to enhance the cesspool feeling of the forums. We're al in this together, I'm pulling my weight, are you, nooblet?
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.16 11:39:00 - [27] Which newspaper in which country was this, and what was the writer's name?
WishBlade Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.08.16 11:39:00 - [28] I'd really lie to see that article, as I believe the surveyor is full of crap. WoW is not a friendly community. If he says EvE is hostile he should look into Lineage 2. Ragnarok online, now there's a friendly place to be. Aweseomenessness
Sinder Ohm Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.16 11:42:00 - [29] The other forums arent so bad, you just need really thick skin on caod although some of the smacks, trolls and flames are quite entertaining
Darius JOHNSON	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:00:00 - [30] Guy rates the level of hostility and politeness of players games with no actual loss or consequence and is shocked that people can be mean to each other in one where loss is tangible... This is a non-article. There are two solutions really if the words on CAOD hurt you. 1) Don't read CAOD. 2) Don't read CAOD. I'd be shocked that anyone cares what some carebear muppet who wrote an article somewhere thinks, but then I look at how most people play this game and understand. Originally by: Crazy GankKiller LOL first u sell them the region and then u claim it back... Darius grow some integretie...

Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:06:00 - [31] Edited by: Stab Wounds on 16/08/2008 12:05:53 less than 0.000001% of players read the forums so who cares.
Saltire Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:12:00 - [32] Edited by: Saltire on 16/08/2008 12:12:51 hostile behaviour makes enemies and causes trillions of ISK in ships and implanted pods to be blown up because somone called somone else's mum's best friend's aunt a nub in jita local. hostile = good for the game, after all, to quote the devs 'eve is a cold harsh environment' if you want to have friendly banter and 'good game' style pats on the ass, find another game.
Neesa Corrinne Dark Destiny Inc. Send More Paramedics	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:17:00 - [33] The very political nature of this game requires the CAOD forums to be the cesspool they are. In a game where losses are permanent and territory ownership is dynamic, there has to be a political outlet and CAOD is that outlet.
Minclark Solstice Systems Development Concourse Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:20:00 - [34] The player who made these ratings; has never raided in WoW has never been in a player alliance in EvE has never had clan matches in CSS is rather inexperienced in all the games he tried.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:25:00 - [35] Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 16/08/2008 12:25:06 I pretty much stopped using the forums, because they where full of crap :/. I sometimes read up on them, but its the same crap from week to week unfortantly. I know it can be "fun" to talk shit about others and such, but in the long run, its boring. In truth I find it much more enjoyable to have a good serious disucssion and good harted talks then shit talks. When I do want to let go of some steam I go to 4chan, since 4cahn is just a bucket of shit (at least /b/ is), and thats ok, it serves a purpouse. So I agreee with your idea of being kind. :P In game tho, I have only good experiances :)
Jixa Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.16 12:28:00 - [36] I disagree to what the trashpaper author wrote. I played WoW a long timettinge, beside its childish graphic style theres nothing friendly on most servers, though there are some nice guids and nice player, but if u are not part of the guild u get ganked (not a bad thing) and body camped (a very bad thing). Asking for help leads to getting told "go get a guildthey help u noob". Talking about Eve i had some Problemswith the first scrambling enemies. I asked in the newbie help channel and the answer was: -I got told the items wich can help me -"W8 im only 11jumps away im gonna go and help u with the mission". -"try urlofarticleaboutelectronicwarfare if u wanna know more about it" CSS:LOL Counter Strike and Source are the most ugly Games i know. WEll...if u got a nice clan (average age should be about 12yearsg) its a hole other thing and it gets nice. The answer to "how do i get a friendly enviroment" is simple: Get a Guild/Clan/Corp and u will have friendly people around u. Without a Corp, Eve is still better than almost every mmorpg i played before. I never encountered that much of kind help before.
Jim Lovell Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.16 13:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Jim Lovell on 16/08/2008 13:36:00 Edited by: Jim Lovell on 16/08/2008 13:33:44 why did they delete all our posts on this thread when they moved it? oic he edited his `I was a newspaper` mistake damn :P also AOC ooc chat was easily the most smack ive ever seen in a online game thank god that game sucked and most people dont play it anymore haha
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.16 13:39:00 - [38] Originally by: Nadarius Chrome Which newspaper in which country was this, and what was the writer's name? Why? You going to do a locator agent and try to gank him in high sec? /sarcasm Originally by: Lemptie If you don`t have nothing better to do then sit chatting in a station in Jita read this Fixing Online Gaming Idiocy: A Psychological Approach Good read and thank you for the link. I am realatively new to the game and this is the first forum that I have ever been a part of. I made one post a long time back, General Discussion, and got massively flammed by one guy and to this day I learned my lesson in that post. I tyry to be helpfull, when I flame I try to do it in a tactful and "smart/clever" way, if that is possible, and I never take personal offense to what others say. If by some chance I get heated, I pull back and do not post for awhile if at all, depending on the subject. That all being said I think that flaming is a symptom of a larger problem. People, now adays are treating others in the real world with less and less respect, and I am guilty of this also. Then when you take others, who may or may not recieve less respect then most inthe real world, give them something that they love to fight for with the anonimity of an online game, they will flex there "e-pen" with force that they would typically not exude in the real world. That all being said, if the original author had read the New citizens forum I bet he would have found a very nice, helpfull, and efficient forum. Quite honestly I think that forum more accurately represents the player base as opposed to COAD. The only solution is that we learn to start respecting people they way we would expect others to respect your loved ones. This may be hippy, panzy, weak, and idealistic, but I tend to try to follow the path created by the Ancient Eastern Philosophers. Think and act like monks. Slade DesuSigs
C4LYP50 HeXstoof	Posted - 2008.08.16 13:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Saltire Edited by: Saltire on 16/08/2008 12:12:51 hostile behaviour makes enemies and causes trillions of ISK in ships and implanted pods to be blown up because somone called somone else's mum's best friend's aunt a nub in jita local. hostile = good for the game, after all, to quote the devs 'eve is a cold harsh environment' if you want to have friendly banter and 'good game' style pats on the ass, find another game. This. Zactly. Brunette By Birth...............Blonde By Nature. ------------------------------------------------- "Your shrieks of agony are Divine" "No tears, please; it's a waste of good suffering" - [i]Pinhe
Par'Gellen Tres Hombres	Posted - 2008.08.16 13:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Lemptie If you don`t have nothing better to do then sit chatting in a station in Jita read this Fixing Online Gaming Idiocy: A Psychological Approach Very good read! I wish CCP would adopt this ideology. --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...

JanoMark Smoke n Burn Intrepid Proprietary Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.16 13:56:00 - [41] Originally by: Wraiths I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was reading a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week No.
Tacitus Krekt Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.08.16 14:21:00 - [42] This just in! Online forums for MMO's represent the entire populace. Oh god I'm going to write an article!
David Miliband Evil Proctologists	Posted - 2008.08.16 14:53:00 - [43] The 'hatred', drama and hostile behaviour are CAOD's only redeeming features! What makes it a cess pitt are the spam threads/posts (the rickrolls, the 'first' posts, the universally unfunny 'joke' threads, the one liner put downs etc)
Salvar Ar'adim State Property	Posted - 2008.08.16 15:13:00 - [44] 1) 30,000 peoplw playing in the same room will bump off each other alot more than 3,000 2) The intensity people bring to this game versus others (which can lead to "heated" debate) is mainly because EVE is one of the few games where it feels like what you do matters. And while thats a good thing, it can lead to strong words from those you do it to ______ Salvar Ar'Adim [RLLUP]State Property Originally by: CCP Wrangler Get Chribba to publically denounce Veldspar, then we can start discussing winning EVE...
Shiwan Khan Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.16 16:11:00 - [45] Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 16/08/2008 10:38:02 Either way, it's pretty damn sad; a year and a half ago, this was one of the friendliest communities online. LOL, no it wasn't. This forum has been for flaming for the last 5 years, its what makes it fun. ____________________________________________ AEKDB
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.16 16:37:00 - [46] The creator of that poll seems to have a very strange view of the games. Dont know if he has actually spent any time in them. Personally i find EVE much more friendly than wow, but i stay away from caod. Vote against the nano nerf!
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.08.16 17:03:00 - [47] Aww geez, can I get a hug?
Chaos Incarnate Has No Face	Posted - 2008.08.16 17:57:00 - [48] lol, CAOD is too 'mean'. And the WoW forums as friendly? Also lol. The General WoW and Arena/PvP forums are like the constant wailing, screaming, and crying of millions of snotty overweight thirteen year olds. If there is some hell for me, it'll be being moderator of that forum for all eternity - and I can't imagine anything worse Quote: "Rabble Rabble Rabble!" "Just sitting out here saying "Rabble Rabble" isn't going to fix anything!" "But we don't know what else to do!" "Rabble Rabble Rabble!"
Shinma Apollo The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.16 20:54:00 - [49] I think really the only problem with the CAOD is that the shitpoasting, though it's hilarious at times (like watching a car accident), got to the point where it's pretty hard to find something useful there. And realistically speaking, if you're looking for unbiased political news, GBBS still exists in some form. The fact that someone can get paid to make 'studies' like this with no research design, empirical scale, or any other binding element makes me feel better about my own job prospects though.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.08.16 21:13:00 - [50] It would be a lot more disconcerting if the EVE forums were NOT filled with anger posting on CAOD. If in WoW, when I killed a night elf rogue, I took all of your stuff and perma-camped you out of ever getting back to where you wanted to go, I bet WoW forums would be just as insane. EVE provokes emotion, unlike WoW/GW and that is not a terrible thing. Or is the breaking news that enemies dislike each other? Oh wow, thanks for the memo. Yeah, let's all hold hands and get along in a game that is supposed to breed conflict and competition. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html

Brigsby5987 Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.16 21:19:00 - [51] Originally by: Wraiths So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week NO. __________________________________________ When Will I be able to post again ? 13 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes, 36 seconds
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2008.08.16 22:47:00 - [52] Originally by: Tacitus Krekt This just in! Online forums for MMO's represent the entire populace. Oh god I'm going to write an article! Crap. I had no idea.
Gonada Gallente R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.08.16 23:00:00 - [53] the OP is full of it. the wow boards are even worse for smaktalk than here. Please, jump into traffic
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.16 23:02:00 - [54] So he came to the EVE-O Fora, looked around until he found a forum he could hold up as nasty, and used that to judge the fora as a whole, then basically admitted to doing so? Subscribe to his newsletter etc. - DesuSigs
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2008.08.16 23:12:00 - [55] General rules to a friendlier eve experince No caps please No begging, beggars usually get shot up in the chat channels No spamming its bad enough we have to deal with spammers in the help channel. No begging, beggars will be tossed out the air lock. Give respect to those that offer help instead of treating them like garbage No begging, beggars will be biomass reprocessed at the central isk seller biomass reception center/soylent light green factory No Crying, espeically when you didnt use your god given gifts to avoid, predict, assess, evaluate, and use preventive measures to have not caused the event that lead to said crying. No begging, beggars will be tossed into the goonswarms food supply New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister
BLUE INEPT	Posted - 2008.08.16 23:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Wraiths I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* =most competitive, also shut up
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.08.17 01:06:00 - [57] Originally by: Wraiths I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was reading a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week **** or GTFO.
Beardponderer You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.08.17 02:06:00 - [58] Originally by: Lord TYMAN Originally by: Wraiths I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was reading a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week **** or GTFO. Lord TYMAN has no sense of right or wrong. I apologise for his behaviour. /me throws LT back into 4chan
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.08.17 02:20:00 - [59] Quote: 4 X-Box Live - Medium wait wait wait, hold the phone. I am guessing this guy has never played halo online? if i could only post that clip from red vs blue. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Horax Triamov	Posted - 2008.08.17 03:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Wraiths I was to test the resolve of EVE players, i was reading a newspaper yesterday when i was enduring my mothers dinner and it had a poll on Online Games overall friendly behaviour 1. WOW - Friendly 2. Guild Wars - Same as Above 3. CSS - Medium 4 X-Box Live - Medium and it went on and on and on and right at the bottom it had a comment from the lad who actually did the poll 200 or summit - EVE Online - And im going to quote this Within the game itself the attitude of players seems to be friendly but should you disagree with a player they turn immediately hostile and you are barreled over with abuse, which leads me to the forums, my first forum i saw was nice and friendly, mission forum i belive i then went to what the player base refer to as the COAD* forum. Here i was disgusted by the pure amount of hatred, smack, abuse, sarcasm, you name it, this forum had it and the worst part was the forum moderators seemed not to care, letting forum threads degenerate into 20+ pages of flames. I must say of all the games i have surveyed EVE Online has to be the worst* So im asking you as a player base can we please tone down on the hostile behavuiour for just 1 week I admire your bold gesture but I'm afraid in an online game that not only allows but REWARDS and ENCOURAGES sociopathic behavior is probably not the best place to find a friendly atmosphere.

Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.08.17 03:33:00 - [61] Originally by: Gonada the OP is full of it. the wow boards are even worse for smaktalk than here. Case in point. When you think the poster is wrong, you can say "I disagree" or "I don't think so" or "I think you're wrong" and explain. Or you can just tell everyone else that "the OP" (who you can't be bothered to address directly) is "full of it". Guess which approach shows zero respect to another person who plays the game with us? (Which, I must add, is not the same as showing no IC or in-game-context respect to another character or group of characters in CAOD) The people you're talking to here may be silly, or stupid, or naive, or just plain wrong, but that doesn't make your being a rude prck in response anything other than being a rude prck, and that is exactly the point here. Maybe that's exactly why 99% of our fellow players don't read, and certainly don't post here. How exactly is that a good thing?
BLUE INEPT	Posted - 2008.08.17 03:59:00 - [62] id rather just tell him hes full of it. Rather than a wall of text analysis like u apparently like to try. so basically you get nothing and deserve less.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:22:00 - [63] Originally by: BLUE INEPT so basically you get nothing and deserve less. Another perfect example. I have no idea why anyone would think such puerile "cyber-macho" behavior is acceptable in any community, nor why it is accepted by both players and forum administrators alike. Sad really.
BLUE INEPT	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:27:00 - [64] pls mail me those tears in a air tight container keeps them fresh. tia
Morcam	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:32:00 - [65] You can rest assured that the guy that rated that simply created a trial account and started asking forum questions, without even doing the tutorial. He deserved to get flamed. Also, this is made up, if it hasn't already been said.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:42:00 - [66] Originally by: BLUE INEPT pls mail me those tears in a air tight container keeps them fresh. tia So you're suggesting that you feel you've accomplished something by annoying others, something to be proud of? Well, in-game that might be reasonable (although even there I would much rather have someone say "Damn, that was close, good fight!" than "$#)&$ you!") When my dog pees on the living room rug, that annoys me. My dog, however, is not so foolish as to feel proud of this accomplishment, he's just being a dog. Likewise your ****ing all over someone who posts here isn't really anything difficult, or brave, or even clever. I'm not crying, just wishing there was some way to housetrain some posters here because the rug is getting pretty rank.
BLUE INEPT	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:50:00 - [67] dont like it dont read it. *wizzes all over your post.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.08.17 09:25:00 - [68] I have found Eve friendly enough once you figure out the etiquette. I mostly read New Citizens Q&A which gets good replies if the OP asks in a polite way (and has done some basic research before asking). And COAD is supposed to be the way it is.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.17 09:48:00 - [69] WOW and Everquest forums are friendly? Someone should read them sometime. The mods come down hard on flaming there, that's true, but the responses are as near to flaming as it's possible to get without getting ban warnings. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.08.17 15:37:00 - [70] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Guy rates the level of hostility and politeness of players games with no actual loss or consequence and is shocked that people can be mean to each other in one where loss is tangible.... This is the reason. In those other games there is nothing which can be won or (more importantly) lost and so nothing to get really wound up about.

Dirtball PinK TacO Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.17 17:59:00 - [71] Yeah COAD is the ultimate place to Troll and say outragous things then never bother to check the thread again than get told by your corpmates about people quoting you. Although on x-box live that one guy in gta race that spent a month and every race he was in he'd repeat "its no wonder why they call you a *****" over and over the whole race was pretty awesome.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.17 18:04:00 - [72] Originally by: Dantes Revenge WOW and Everquest forums are friendly? Someone should read them sometime. No this is a nice forum . Sorry to say but after watching it for a few months the EVE forums are the worst I have ever seen for an MMO. Ironically I did read somewhere that the player base for EVE was on average older then most other MMO's....
Par'Gellen Tres Hombres	Posted - 2008.08.18 13:23:00 - [73] Edited by: Par''Gellen on 18/08/2008 13:24:40 Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: BLUE INEPT pls mail me those tears in a air tight container keeps them fresh. tia So you're suggesting that you feel you've accomplished something by annoying others, something to be proud of? Well, in-game that might be reasonable (although even there I would much rather have someone say "Damn, that was close, good fight!" than "$#)&$ you!") When my dog pees on the living room rug, that annoys me. My dog, however, is not so foolish as to feel proud of this accomplishment, he's just being a dog. Likewise your ***ing all over someone who posts here isn't really anything difficult, or brave, or even clever. I'm not crying, just wishing there was some way to housetrain some posters here because the rug is getting pretty rank. It appears Blue has no idea how perfectly he is defeating his own argument. Good to see others in the game like you Catherine. All is not lost... --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...*
Ranger 1 Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.18 13:39:00 - [74] Some EVE forums are there for generally constructive purposes and commeradarie, others are not. These other forums are there to bolster competitiveness, political purposes, or roleplaying. They should "not" be confused with forums dedicated to other purposes. Now STFU.
Mira O'karr Minmatar eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.18 16:03:00 - [75] i m just curious what "newspaper" this would have been in.
Traidor Disloyal NightCrew	Posted - 2008.08.18 16:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Wraiths 1. WOW - Friendly Barrens Chat. Need I say more? --------------------------------------------- Love is having a second account with a cov ops pilot
Victor Forge Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.18 18:07:00 - [77] The one thing I hated about WoW forums is that those forums don¦t have any moderation at all during weekends, from Friday night to Monday morning anything goes. Things like threads with keylogger stayed up, etc. Worst thing was and is, the Class forums, one could think that warlock forums was about warlock players talking about their class. But no... it was mages crying for nerfs and rogues telling Warlocks that rogues are fine l2p, every single day. The last year those classes posted with their lvl 70 warlock alts telling the same story over and over again. And it was like that even with moderation, but during Weekends? Oh.. my... God. The best thing with EvE is the higher average age among players. Unlike WoW proper English is used 99% of the time. The forums are indeed a bit harsher as well, since we expect other posters to be as thick skinned as the average EvE player, a person between 25 and 30. The positive thing is that posters have to think before they post, no brainless "Ship X must be nerfed! Discuss!" followed with the posters nine alts that agrees with the poster without even trying to explain why he is right and everyone else is wrong. Sorry for the long post, but I love the harsh forums here in EvE and the very thought of the WoW forums fills me with anger. ----------------------------------------------------------


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