For those who like to make people's lives miserable - here is the new Ultimate Griefer Tactic for use with the new system:

1) Find a Target who is either running missions or mining.
2) Flip the mission objective or ore from their can to yours, then fly away - but have a cloaked corp-mate come in and sit nearish the can waiting for them to re-flip.
3) Once they steal it back, lock them down, and bring in hordes of corp-mates in scram-fit rookie ships. Guns are NOT required.
4) Let them start mowing down your rookie ships, and even your pods if that is allowed, but make sure you keep at least 1 point on them so they can't fly away.
5) Watch their sec status PLUMMET - until it gets so low that they can no longer legally fly in the system you are in.
6) Continue holding them while the faction navy destroys them.
7) ???????
8) Profit - and there is 1 less carebear allowed to fly in high sec.

PS: Yes, I am pure evil. You are welcome.

There are many things I'd like to see fixed in eve.

You high-sec gankers pulling t3 bc's out of orca's and killing some noob in his itty 4 are one of them.

You make me sick, you can't PVP obviously or you would be. You don't belong in this forum or any of the others. You're about a half step up from botters.

Really glad they are getting rid of can flippers too - can't even imagine how many noobs this has put off the game over the years.

If you want to PVP there are plenty of places to do it without harassing people who don't care for it.

The fact there are people who want to PVP and people who don't want to PVP and the game caters for both is what makes it a sandbox, not you getting to do whatever you want to do at others expense.

PVP games need PVPers, not griefers.

Still don't like the idea of getting a sec hit for killing somebody that is shooting at me.

Insert 3-4 paragraph long bitchpost about how you don't want to deal with the consequences of your actions and need to go to nullsec and learn to do "real pvp" here.

Retardedly long post vaugely mentioning something about "higsec pvp cearebears" but failing to address any actual issues or even make sense.

Happens in real life as well. You steal from a guy, he pulls a gun, you shoot him: you go away for a long time.

Happens in real life as well. You steal from a guy, he pulls a gun, you shoot him: you go away for a long time.

there are people who sit in new player systems can baiting. Usually there are 2 or 3 of these guys bating. With the proposed changes, when a new player falls for the "free stuff" bait, instead of surprise butt seks from one thrasher, he/she will enjoy a surprise gang bang from many thrashers.

That thief above better not do that in Texas and a buncha other southern and some midwestern states. Some places still allow people to defend their property, even their neighbors too, thankfully. Risk/reward. Forget the north east and the left coast though, it's generally open season on law abiding citizens there.

If I had a rookie ship kill on a day old noob I'd quit.