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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 05:05:00 -
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mai falcon alt dies all teh time.
discuss
while your falcon pilot warps off in a pod, baffled at why his FC Borat can't learn to not pyramid-quote.
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Space Fascist
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Posted - 2008.08.18 05:11:00 -
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Your problem is that you only have one falcon alt. All the good PvPers these days have at least two, plus their falcon main.
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Fafnir Drake
Gallente Boob Heads Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 05:29:00 -
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My falcon alt solo'd a Titan+support. Well, almost.... the bastards cooked off self-destruct at structure. ------ "Tell a man there are 300 billion stars in the universe and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint on it and he'll have to touch to be sure." |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/08/2008 10:38:18 /signed
It's not fair that everyone always calls me primary. Make the Falcon show up as an Ibis on overview so nobody knows to shoot me.
Also, it's not fair that other people can fit long range weapons and insta-pop me. Falcons are supposed to have superior range, so ECM needs a range boost, and the Falcon needs an exception to the 250km range cap. Or at least nerf sniper battleships, it's not fair that a ship with high close range damage can also insta-pop me at 250km, especially when it requires 3-4x jammers to jam one. Nerf them to around 50-75km (100km for the Rokh), and people will go back to flying easy to kill blaster boats like they should.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:37:00 -
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I say they should be able to ECM while cloaked. It's not like ECM kills anyone  Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:49:00 -
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Ive never knew why you need to lock somebody to ecm him , it should be an area ew applied to every enemy ships in grid.
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achoura
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Posted - 2008.08.18 11:39:00 -
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Op is right, our BB just jammed a falcon and now it's dead, obviously this is a serious imballance  ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |

Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/08/2008 10:38:18 /signed
It's not fair that everyone always calls me primary. Make the Falcon show up as an Ibis on overview so nobody knows to shoot me.
Also, it's not fair that other people can fit long range weapons and insta-pop me. Falcons are supposed to have superior range, so ECM needs a range boost, and the Falcon needs an exception to the 250km range cap. Or at least nerf sniper battleships, it's not fair that a ship with high close range damage can also insta-pop me at 250km, especially when it requires 3-4x jammers to jam one. Nerf them to around 50-75km (100km for the Rokh), and people will go back to flying easy to kill blaster boats like they should.
Sound suggestions for a fairer EvE!
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Zantei
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:39:00 -
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The falcon needs to be able to fit siege modules if people are to take it seriously. ------------------------------------------
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:47:00 -
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I've often thought the Falcon needs some kind of siege mode. ----------------------
GIEF MISSL |

BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/08/2008 10:38:18 /signed
It's not fair that everyone always calls me primary. Make the Falcon show up as an Ibis on overview so nobody knows to shoot me.
Also, it's not fair that other people can fit long range weapons and insta-pop me. Falcons are supposed to have superior range, so ECM needs a range boost, and the Falcon needs an exception to the 250km range cap. Or at least nerf sniper battleships, it's not fair that a ship with high close range damage can also insta-pop me at 250km, especially when it requires 3-4x jammers to jam one. Nerf them to around 50-75km (100km for the Rokh), and people will go back to flying easy to kill blaster boats like they should.
win post poudly annoying fc's since 2007
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zantei The falcon needs to be able to fit siege modules if people are to take it seriously.
Why would a falcon need a seige mode? Everyone knows that you explode if you try to lock a falcon because god (I mean the devs) don't take kindly to people trying to shoot their favorite children.
I'd set it so that seige mode starts stealing soverignty the moment they start operating.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.18 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Zantei The falcon needs to be able to fit siege modules if people are to take it seriously.
Why would a falcon need a seige mode? Everyone knows that you explode if you try to lock a falcon because god (I mean the devs) don't take kindly to people trying to shoot their favorite children.
I'd set it so that seige mode starts stealing soverignty the moment they start operating.
If you actually manage to lay one shot ull soon see a nasty message form ccp saying u bought isk and are now in the wealth region between a dead bum and a rich bum that owes ccp 3 bill isk
poudly annoying fc's since 2007
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast |

recnadykS airyL
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:31:00 -
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I am teh alt of someone on this forum and I fly teh ship called Falcon it is overpowered i liek never die in it evar
nerf teh falcon amirite? xD xD xD xD xD
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:34:00 -
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wtb 10 mids plskthx
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atomic killer
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:40:00 -
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nerf falcons, they are too good !!! Nerf EVE
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Alexander Nexus
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Posted - 2008.08.18 16:34:00 -
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How about we just cover everything in eve with soft cushy foam. Missiles will have dummy warheads and guns will fire rubber bullets. Then we can all live and brag about how we would have had everyone else podded.:)
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atomic killer
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Posted - 2008.08.18 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Nexus How about we just cover everything in eve with soft cushy foam. Missiles will have dummy warheads and guns will fire rubber bullets. Then we can all live and brag about how we would have had everyone else podded.:)
thats a good idea, i agree with you. Lets all support this wonderfull idea !!!
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Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2008.08.18 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Nexus How about we just cover everything in eve with soft cushy foam. Missiles will have dummy warheads and guns will fire rubber bullets. Then we can all live and brag about how we would have had everyone else podded.:)
Nerf soft cushy foam tbh, damn that stuff is soft.
Mag's
Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 02:59:00 -
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Boost falcons |

Krystal Demishy
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu mai falcon alt dies all teh time.
discuss
you are a noob
discuss |

Dura'Lorth
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Krystal Demishy
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu mai falcon alt dies all teh time.
discuss
you are a noob
discuss
awww she thought the post was real.  |

Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:27:00 -
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/sign
The other day I dropped like four cycles in a row including the two appropriate jammers :( |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:05:00 -
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Also, the Falcon needs more damage. I have a hard time killing capital ships solo, which is just not balanced. Maybe this is where we could fix the overpowered range bonus: exchange it for +10 drones per level, and give it enough drone space for two full waves of fighters. This would be a fair trade, especially when dealing with dreads (siege mode immunity to ECM = lame), bringing the Falcon within range to kill if it fails a jam cycle, but allowing it to deal some damage in return. |

Burn Mac
Minmatar Burning Steel Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:42:00 -
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Falcon vs. Pod is 50/50 fight |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.19 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Burn Mac Falcon vs. Pod is 50/50 fight
QFT. Falcon lock time needs a major boost, it's too hard to lock pods before they warp away. Nerf pods or boost Falcons. |

The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.08.19 09:30:00 -
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Falcons should have extra Options for warping, like 120, 150 and 180km. This would save the Pilotes so many time.  |

Commanderess
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Posted - 2008.08.19 09:42:00 -
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Please allow falcons to remotely jam through a cyno.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Commanderess Please allow falcons to remotely jam through a cyno.
with this I also ask for the falcons to be able to fit the remote ECM burst module and be able to use it thru a cyno. |

Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 14:29:00 -
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I do humbly think that the falcon and its brothers are unjustly underpowered when compared to other recons and ships of the same class.
I will list each ship and why I find it weak, and suggest fair changes to further balance this game.
Blackbird: *Lacks launcher hard points to fit put out comparable DPS to other cruisers, such as the thorax and Vexor. Add 2 high slots, and 2 launcher hard points. *ECM is weak when compared to its big brother, the Falcon. Either boost the blackbirds ECM bonus from 15% to 20% per level, or add another lowslot.
Scorpion: *Lacks tank+ecm. Move 2 highslots to lowslots, increase versatility, while offering a cookie cutter ecm+armor buffer tank. *The Scorp is far to heavy to operate at such low ranges. Double its ECM range bonus to 40% per level, and double its base targeting range.
Widow: *Basically the same changes as the Scorpion, add 2 extra high slots for utility. It is a tech2 ship, after all!
Falcon: *Add a 8th mid slot, allowing for greater buffer or ECM. *Double the falcon's base speed, letting it slightly nano while not having to fit nano mods. This can be removed once the nano nerf hits, however. *Half the falcons cap use to initiate warp.
Rook: *Remove the ECM range bonus, and give it a 5% RoF bonus. It is a combat recon, not a uncloaked falcon! *15m or 25m dronebay, increase versatility. *Double speed and half cap use to warp, as with the falcon.
Kitsune: *Triple base speed. Allowing it to survive while ECMing *Increase cap so that it can permarun an MWD, and 4 multispecs. *Add 20km to its base lock range. *Remove optimal range bonus, and add a second ECM bonus, to make it have leet ECMs.
And that wraps up my sincere balance changes. I believe with these fixes implemented, a better eve will come of it.
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