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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:52:00 -
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This topic seems to have fallen by the wayside (or at least EVE Search didn't uncover anything recent), so I think it's time to call attention to it again.
Currently, in order for anyone outside of the POS-owning Corp to use a Jump Bridge, they must have the POS password for the tower that the Jump Bridge is anchored at. This creates a serious security risk, as even the best alliances have spies, and this password must be made public to all alliance members to allow them usage of the POS.
On the other hand, if the POS is set to allow alliance members, any pilot from the alliance may enter the POS force field without needing the password. Friendly pilots not in the same alliance cannot enter the force field without having the POS password though. In this case you have a choice of whether you wish to share the password and take that risk. With Jump Bridges, we don't have that option. The mechanics force us to give out that password.
In my opinion, Jump Bridge access permissions should behave identical to POS force fields. If you are in the same corp or alliance, access should be controlled by the appropriate checkboxes on the POS management interface. The password should only be required when a pilot outside of the corp or alliance needs to use the bridge.
To counter the argument of "you should never be completely safe anywhere" that I know will follow - you're not safe when you use a Jump Bridge. You must be outside of the POS shield at each end of the Jump Bridge, meaning you are vulnerable to attack already. You have the protection of whatever guns the POS is armed with, but that is the same for any POS.
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Xindi Kraid
Cerulean Sky Fire Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.18 20:07:00 -
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I support this idea. |
Naomi Knight
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:43:00 -
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Best would be just to remove jump bridges from the game ,these thingis completly unbalance 0.0 by allowing too easy move for space holders. |
Re'taka
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:45:00 -
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TBH, People in large alliances should know better then to expect safety at a JB pos, I don't understand why people don't get this. 3 rules to JB pos's
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a safe pos.
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a staging pos.
Don't store ships outside of the SMA at a jump bridge pos.
Is that really so hard? I mean what the hell can they do if they know the PW and can get in the shields? As long as you follow those 3 simple rules, they can't do anything to bug you but sit inside a pos that isn't being used for anything but hosting a JB, and maybe a CHA, SMA, but still its not like they can lock you while in the pos shield, whats the big deal?
Learn to use the tools your given correctly and stop whining that your enemys know your JB pw, they are going to pop your ships with titians, most of you are born with brains, time to start using them... |
NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.19 19:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Re'taka
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a safe pos.
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a staging pos.
Don't store ships outside of the SMA at a jump bridge pos.
You are correct that these measures limit the risk associated with the password being leaked. However, the point is that the mechanic is poorly implemented. We shouldn't have to give out that password, period, unless we choose to. The way it is currently implemented we are forced to share the password with hundreds of players for no apparent reason. Jump Bridges are intended to be an alliance asset and their usage should be configurable in the same way that the POS is. |
Re'taka
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.08.19 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Re''taka on 19/08/2008 20:24:07
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Re'taka
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a safe pos.
Don't use a jump bridge pos as a staging pos.
Don't store ships outside of the SMA at a jump bridge pos.
You are correct that these measures limit the risk associated with the password being leaked. However, the point is that the mechanic is poorly implemented. We shouldn't have to give out that password, period, unless we choose to. The way it is currently implemented we are forced to share the password with hundreds of players for no apparent reason. Jump Bridges are intended to be an alliance asset and their usage should be configurable in the same way that the POS is.
The point isn't to stop the leak of the pw, its to null the leak of the pw, it wont matter if your enemy has that pw, they can't do anything but sit inside your shield with it or use the JB, which with your idea they could already use the JB, and if they sit in your shields then you can temp change the pw to knock them out and let the pos guns have there way with them, or just not care and allow them to sit there, have a nice little chat or something.
As far as having alliance settings for them, I can agree with that, just no more whining about people getting the pw to DD you shields, it wont happen unless your being foolish |
Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.20 01:37:00 -
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Its a good point. Another idea might be to separate the POS password from the JB password. Although it is separate, you need both. You would need the POS password to get to the JB, and another to activate the JB. If the JB password is then compromised, there is no harm for those who can't enter the force field. |
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