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Regara Draco
Dead 2 Rights
TransWarp Ventures
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:16:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Jimer Lins
When Ambulation rolls out, pick a station in a high-traffic area (Jita?) and name the gaming parlor on it after her.
Call it "Taera's".
Given what I know of her, she'd get a kick out of it.
I endorse this suggestion.
Originally by: hired goon
Guys, CCP have never created a momument to any of the few players who have unfortunately passed away, nor can they. Put yourself in their shoes. If they manifest something ingame for one, they'll have to do it for all of them lest they attract accusations of being cold hearted monsters. Then there will be demands for people who have been turned into vegetables, or had other tragedies. Or people who have died who didn't play eve, but just knew someone who did. How do you decide? And imagine the terrible weight of accusations placed on the poor people who have to make these decisions, or depths that forum-arguments will decend to as people debate over whether there should also be a monument to a soldier-player who died in Iraq - with both halves of the debate threatening to quit. Don't even go there.
The best you can hope for is to build / capture a station, or build a titan, and name those after her. IIRC this has been done by some alliances already, in respect of the memory of certain people.
I think there's a HUGE difference between a member of the playerbase and a CCP employee. I don't think anyone would object--and if anyone wants to DEMAND a memorial for a random player they can damn well make their own MMO and put it there. |
Gealbhan
Caldari
Infernal Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:17:00 -
[32]
/Signed. |
Arvald
Caldari
Ninjas N Pirates
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:23:00 -
[33]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
I suggested this to the CSM before the meeting on sunday. But the enthusiasm wasn't exactly overwhelming 
/signed.
whip out you +5 Hammer Of Convincing
also /signed |
Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:29:00 -
[34]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
I suggested this to the CSM before the meeting on sunday. But the enthusiasm wasn't exactly overwhelming
Well obviously looking at the agenda and the items that were put forth and by whom, most of them are only their for self serving reasons. Not for the community as a whole, unless the community happens to coincide with their own desires. |
Frozen Fallout
Gallente
Mecha Enterprises Group
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:30:00 -
[35]
/signed |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:38:00 -
[36]
Thank you for the suggestions, they have been forwarded on to the development team. |
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Captain Richthofen
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:49:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Captain Richthofen on 19/08/2008 04:50:37
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Thank you for the suggestions, they have been forwarded on to the development team.
Thanks happy to hear that I look forward to the amazing way in which they will make a memorial to her. |
Arvald
Caldari
Ninjas N Pirates
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:52:00 -
[38]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Thank you for the suggestions, they have been forwarded on to the development team.
/me hugs mintal and grabs his bum |
JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.19 04:56:00 -
[39]
After watching her dance on You Tube I want a Salsa Bar named Taera in Amarr Space - Please? |
Eran Laude
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:20:00 -
[40]
Uhh wow!? She died?
Well despite only being with us for a short time she definitely deserves the honour of being immortalised in-game somehow.
/signed and sorry to have to do so. |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:22:00 -
[41]
No.
We would be flooded with systems named after people soon. |
F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:48:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ruze
I'm okay with the system
But the ship idea I think is bad. Especially when I think of the people who would come on the boards complaining that the ship is broken, etc. The explicatives that could be used would be very ... poor taste.
Very true.
I posted in the official thread that it should be a system named Genender's Star. I think it's very appropriate, and pays respect to her real self, not just her virtual side. If you want to do both, which may be appropriate, given that Taera was her official online name, it could be Taera Genender's Star. |
F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:51:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kuolematon
No.
We would be flooded with systems named after people soon.
How much of a Richard can you be? How many devs have passed away since Eve was launched? Oh, that's right, NONE.
And how many have such a positive impact on the community in only a few weeks? Oh, yeah, again, NONE. |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.19 06:20:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Kuolematon on 19/08/2008 06:23:29
Originally by: F'nog
How much of a Richard can you be? How many devs have passed away since Eve was launched? Oh, that's right, NONE.
And how many have such a positive impact on the community in only a few weeks? Oh, yeah, again, NONE.
How much TOOL can you be? How many PLAYERS have passed away since Eve was launched? Oh, thats right, MANY.
And how would you like to have systems named after RICHARDS and PEOPLE and then feel the impact on the community? Oh, yeah, again, CHAOS.
(In case I get banned from whorums by saing this, I just wanted to point out that we should NEVER treat humans differently just because other was mere player and other was "dev". Eighter give ALL dead players same naming policy or STFU) |
Tipz NexAstrum
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 06:37:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Kuolematon
stuff
CCP have already named stuff after themselves ingame, this time they would only have a good reason as opposed to showing how big *someones* ego is... |
Sovox
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Posted - 2008.08.19 06:51:00 -
[46]
/signed |
Jakus Cemendur
Caldari
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:13:00 -
[47]
/signed.
A star, system or something in Ambulation seem like a fitting way to pay tribute to her. |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:18:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Tipz NexAstrum
CCP have already named stuff after themselves ingame, this time they would only have a good reason as opposed to showing how big *someones* ego is...
Oh please, thats just bollox! As much as I'm sad about her death and have my symphaties for her "family", I still find it being naive to name a freaking VIRTUAL place after her despite her working on current virtual enviroment.
CCP should stop this madness. I bet there is also SOME people in other MMORPG's who has worked and died and never got their "own town" or whatever.
Just have tribute to her over "This ad will display only once"-schema in login screen but if you gonna start renaming systems (And thus, fracking up external programs like killboards) just for her .. then do it for every other dead EVE player to show that you care for your PLAYERS too. |
F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:25:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Edited by: Kuolematon on 19/08/2008 06:23:29
Originally by: F'nog
How much of a Richard can you be? How many devs have passed away since Eve was launched? Oh, that's right, NONE.
And how many have such a positive impact on the community in only a few weeks? Oh, yeah, again, NONE.
How much TOOL can you be? How many PLAYERS have passed away since Eve was launched? Oh, thats right, MANY.
And how would you like to have systems named after RICHARDS and PEOPLE and then feel the impact on the community? Oh, yeah, again, CHAOS.
(In case I get banned from whorums by saing this, I just wanted to point out that we should NEVER treat humans differently just because other was mere player and other was "dev". Eighter give ALL dead players same naming policy or STFU)
You fail because you haven't taken actual Eve events into consideration. There is/was a station named in honor of a player named Smoske. This was done by players for a player. It is, or at least was, undertaken by all players to keep this true (I'm a bit behind the times on this, but it was considered sacrosanct a few years back).
So if players can memorialize someone by naming a conquerable station after him, and continuing this tradition, is it so inconceivable that the devs would do the same with a system, for a fellow dev?
The devs are basically gods here. What they say goes. So if they want to reign chaos on us by renaming a single system out of 5000+ is that going to ruin our lives (barring Jita, and that's not such a bad thing, really)?
But, basically, Devs>players. It's their game; they can do what they want. If they want to rename anything, for any reason, they pretty much can (hey, they recently did it with the Drone regions). Should they do it just because? No. But if there's a good reason, they should. Just the same as if that Khanid guy became the new Amarr Emperor, Amarr could be renamed Khanid. What's the difficulty in that? |
Xevan Templar
7th Batavian Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:04:00 -
[50]
/Signed.
And can the people who don't agree with it just NOT post instead of making **** posts
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:15:00 -
[51]
I didn't know her. Which I feel vaguely sad about now.
/signed for a memorial of sorts. I'm sure CCP can find a way to do so in good taste.
There are many monuments in eve. Building one that actually means something to the real world would be a noble effort.
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:22:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Tipz NexAstrum
CCP have already named stuff after themselves ingame, this time they would only have a good reason as opposed to showing how big *someones* ego is...
Oh please, thats just bollox! As much as I'm sad about her death and have my symphaties for her "family", I still find it being naive to name a freaking VIRTUAL place after her despite her working on current virtual enviroment.
CCP should stop this madness. I bet there is also SOME people in other MMORPG's who has worked and died and never got their "own town" or whatever.
Just have tribute to her over "This ad will display only once"-schema in login screen but if you gonna start renaming systems (And thus, fracking up external programs like killboards) just for her .. then do it for every other dead EVE player to show that you care for your PLAYERS too.
Have you ever heard about easter eggs? If you look trough, you will see tons of system names that are some kind of reference to devs, though they are still alive. There's even a system named after mindstar  .
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LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:23:00 -
[53]
Any sort of ingame tribute will be good. I am sure the dev team will work it out some way. i will raise a drink to her at fanfest thats for sure |
Chillshock
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:32:00 -
[54]
Imagine Jita 4-4 being named after someone as a punishment.
No, seriously I'd like the Idea. Being remembered is the only kind of immortality that we humans can achieve. So I dare to say keeping someone remembered in positive is a wonderfull thing to do. |
RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.08.19 08:34:00 -
[55]
if not a system then a planet
damn this is a sad day |
Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.19 09:00:00 -
[56]
System or COSMOS site.
Didn't know her, but she seemed nice.
/signed |
Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.19 09:18:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Tipz NexAstrum
CCP have already named stuff after themselves ingame, this time they would only have a good reason as opposed to showing how big *someones* ego is...
Oh please, thats just bollox! As much as I'm sad about her death and have my symphaties for her "family", I still find it being naive to name a freaking VIRTUAL place after her despite her working on current virtual enviroment.
CCP should stop this madness. I bet there is also SOME people in other MMORPG's who has worked and died and never got their "own town" or whatever.
Just have tribute to her over "This ad will display only once"-schema in login screen but if you gonna start renaming systems (And thus, fracking up external programs like killboards) just for her .. then do it for every other dead EVE player to show that you care for your PLAYERS too.
This guys against CCP giving a tribute to a dead coworker because he doesn't want to mess up a KILLBOARD?!?!
Go for it, CCP. Give her a star, or a planet, or find whatever system this guy lives in the most and name it after her.
And yes, there is a difference between a player and a developer. Developers often live and breath the games they work on. It's their paycheck, it's what they wake up and go to every day. It's THEIRS.
Players just pay to join in. We try to make it ours, but it never really comes close.
It seems purely anal to me for someone to think that a coworker shouldn't be paid tributes, because many clients have died, too. The one doesn't invalidate the other. Just because one is recognized, doesn't make the other any less. Are you saying that the people who lost their lives in the Revolutionary War, for instance, are somehow insignificant because George Washington has his own monument? |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.08.19 10:04:00 -
[58]
Guys and Girls,
Everyone at CCP are still in a state of shock at the untimely passing of our beloved Laura.
Please remain civil and polite when posting in this thread and do not post flame or troll comments. If you disagree with the proposal then do so in a polite manner.
Thank you. |
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 10:26:00 -
[59]
hey hey
What if CCP imortalised her as an agent ? with maybe a special storyline of something exclusve ?
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Karanth
Gallente
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.08.19 10:41:00 -
[60]
Still fairly sure that no matter who it is, that ingame memorials shouldn't be built.
The one case I can recall where such an object was placed was for some ingame contest thingy, and that was a specific prize. Creating stuff in space every single time someone dies would be pointless and somewhat annoying (imagine 10 years from now, how many people will know what it means?)
An agent, I have no issues with, or even maybe a new sort of officer that spawns, or other notable personage that gets RP-handwaved in. But a station or memorial or other big honkin' thing in space? Even as a one-off (unlikely, considering that being alive has a 100% mortality rate) it's too many times.
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