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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.06.05 18:52:00 -
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well first id finish training all my leadership skills to 5 then convince that i would have to live thru the battle to boost the rest of the fleet and hopefully he'll give me a titan so i can tank it out and charge the enemies in fleet battles. OFC while using the brand spankin new tactical view --------------------------------------------
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.05 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO I wouldnt expect titans for another 2-3 years. Shiva is going to Last about a year if not more.
yes tank i agree, i dont even think they are incorporated into Kali patch, but thats also at leasta year or more away. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.06.05 19:35:00 -
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Mine is just going to do all the normal flagship things. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.06.05 19:46:00 -
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.06.05 20:18:00 -
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There wont be many titans, if empires are barely able to afford them, what makes you think CCP will just let players be able to get them oh so easily. If players are even ALLOWED to build there own in the first place.
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Titan AE
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Posted - 2004.06.05 20:51:00 -
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Aye, Titans will probably be more than just expensive, more like unattainable for reasons that have little to do with cost. Can you imagine even 5% of the population with a strip mining ship that can hold 3 million cargo with expanders and 8 lazers? I don't think the devs are going to let that happen :P.
The devs seem to have had a price in mind for Titans for a while now and have made some hints, even though I am sure what they think about it is in flux as well :P. Anyway when the game first went retail the devs came out the begining of the second month to answer some titan questions and said that if the entire subscriber base of the game couldn't earn a titan if they strip mined for a month, and that was when arknor was in empire space :P. Recently TomB said that titans would be put in the game when some person actually had enough money to buy one, then chuckled.
So lets do some wild speculation for giggles :P. The entire population mining in the second month would earn how much a day for a month? That'll get us a low figure :P. Whats the total cash on hand of the richest corp right now? that'll give us an idea of what is laughably way too low for the worth of a titan. Lets see here, in the second month of retail only a few pilots had battleships and they were flying dominixs mainly (as far as I know, BS were kept very secret back then if possible) I'd guess there were 20,000 subscribers by then, the box was on the shelf at that time. Lets say each subscriber could earn 10 million a day so that would be 200m a day? That seems a very low number to me. Lets say 200-400m a day for 31 days. That would be 6.2 to 12.4 billion ISK. I think we can say safely a Titan even at retail was planned to cost more than 5 billion. Probably more like 10 billion.
The comment that TomB made that it was laughable to think that anyone in the game was even remotely close to having enough ISK to buy one now was interesting as well and may reflect the ideas the devs have currently about what a titan should cost. I am not sure who has a lot of ISK. If I had saved everything I have made I'd have about probably 5 or 6 billion, mabey a little more. Some of the players in the game that have owned BS bps for ages would probably own more. I'd have to guess there might be some person out there with 10 billion ISK now, and some corps worth mabey 20-30 billion ISK cash on hand. I'd guess then that Titans would cost no less than 10 billion ISK and as much as 100 billion, mabey a bit more.
Anyways, I hope my little flight of fancy has given you something entertaining to fantasize about and debate. For those of us who are very wealthy having something to save up for can be a reason to keep playing, even if it doesn't exist yet! Have fun. :)
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.05 21:26:00 -
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well they also said, it would cost billiosn of isk to get a battleship. and i dont think it will cost 100 billion isk to get one, who wants to invest that much in 1 ship, that can be destryed by a little fleet of battleships, nah it would be foolish, the price will drop, allthough i think it will take alot of rare components and quite some skills to fly it. but anyway we wont be seeing these ships in the near future anyways. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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Detron
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Posted - 2004.06.05 22:01:00 -
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who cares...
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Skurlan
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Posted - 2004.06.05 22:18:00 -
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I will name mine the Crimson Permanent Assurance.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.06.05 22:52:00 -
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Mine will be named "Omnipitent Home For Universal Conveyance Killing"...
... or for short... err... bugger... cant say that can I!!!!
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Demian Sky
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Posted - 2004.06.05 23:27:00 -
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When I get my Titan... I'm going to accidentally use an Extra Large smart bomb in Yulai, and watch concord kill me :-)
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Stue
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Posted - 2004.06.05 23:36:00 -
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I dont know especially where i will go with it, but i know everytime i undock ill have Richard Wagners 'O Fortuna' in my ears, definately. |
Reptar
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Posted - 2004.06.06 00:01:00 -
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sit in front of a busy gate and watch all the ppl trying to fly around me.
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Earthan
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Posted - 2004.06.06 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Earthan on 06/06/2004 00:08:45 The most obvious use of a titan with it jump drive to me would be to transport fleets deep into enemy territory, bypassing bloackades.It would be a deadly weapon.
Hope the whole NORAD aliance will be able to buy one
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.06 00:14:00 -
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I would use a Titan to promote peace, love and understanding....
Um ok no i wouldn't i couldn't pull that off if i tried
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.06.06 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/06/2004 02:11:31 Would be useless for me even if i wanted one,at least with the specs the way they are right now...
Make them like the carriers they're supposed to be and be able to fully defend themselves against 3~4 enemy BS's at once and then i might be interested,otherwise it's just one very big,very expensive bullseye...
Honestly,even if they turn out to be good ships,and corps/aliances actually have the money/resources to Buy/build one,i seriously doubt we'll ever see them,for the simple fact of all the bickering within the membership as to who gets to fly the damn thing....
Give me my dreadnought,Wich i seriously hope will be out with the next patch after shiva and i'll be a happy camper...
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.06.06 02:38:00 -
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I would use my Titan to mine to get another Titan and do the same until I have 20 and then when I have enough allies then i'd sell them for the price of Plat insurance under the condition they help me wage war against the Gallente to retake Caldari Prime or fight GM corp and the Jove. But then again I always could sell them to Biomass and Valkyrie corp members who became pillars of FE for the fun of it (Hopes Bjorn returns from L2).
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Annatar
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Posted - 2004.06.06 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Annatar on 06/06/2004 03:20:24 well. good that i see this thread i just found this Pic on the CCP website and are wondering what it could be.
Amarr Titan??
any suggestions?
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.06.06 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/06/2004 04:24:34
Originally by: Lucian Alucard I would use my Titan to mine to get another Titan and do the same until I have 20 and then when I have enough allies then i'd sell them for the price of Plat insurance under the condition they help me wage war against the Gallente to retake Caldari Prime or fight GM corp and the Jove. But then again I always could sell them to Biomass and Valkyrie corp members who became pillars of FE for the fun of it (Hopes Bjorn returns from L2).
Good luck in mining on your own to actually get enough minerals to build one of these,let alone 20....I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you could build 100+ BS 2's with the mineral requirements of only 1 titan,and that's not even considering the amount of Tech 2 components that may also be needed in it's construction as well...
Then there's the actual base on where such a huge ship could be even built,given that the titan is the size of base itself...It Would be very cool if the player outposts that will be out in shiva could ultimately be expanded enough to accomodate buiding large ships like the Titans in space,and you'd actually see the ship comming together over a period of several weeks or so...
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.06.06 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 06/06/2004 04:46:33
Originally by: digitalwanderer Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/06/2004 04:24:34
Originally by: Lucian Alucard I would use my Titan to mine to get another Titan and do the same until I have 20 and then when I have enough allies then i'd sell them for the price of Plat insurance under the condition they help me wage war against the Gallente to retake Caldari Prime or fight GM corp and the Jove. But then again I always could sell them to Biomass and Valkyrie corp members who became pillars of FE for the fun of it (Hopes Bjorn returns from L2).
Good luck in mining on your own to actually get enough minerals to build one of these,let alone 20....I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you could build 100+ BS 2's with the mineral requirements of only 1 titan,and that's not even considering the amount of Tech 2 components that may also be needed in it's construction as well...
Then there's the actual base on where such a huge ship could be even built,given that the titan is the size of base itself...It Would be very cool if the player outposts that will be out in shiva could ultimately be expanded enough to accomodate buiding large ships like the Titans in space,and you'd actually see the ship comming together over a period of several weeks or so...
Thats why I am going to get more computers and accounts to mine all at once I think 7 would do fine especially if I am mining ark then to heck going for the minerals I will buy them. And the more Titans I get the easier it will be to mine especially with 8+ miner 2s' and drones one must not forget what the size of the drone capacity, think on the amount of harvesters one could hold especially the gallente. So think about what a mining op with 8 of them would be like.
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.06.06 04:44:00 -
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I really hope Titans are attainable. They were supposed to be out a long time ago. They should not cost more then 500 million isk and should not be allowed near gates. They would use their OWN jump drives to move around. 100 billion isk to buy one Titan yea right that is just pure bull$#it. |
digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.06.06 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 06/06/2004 04:46:33
Originally by: digitalwanderer Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/06/2004 04:24:34
Originally by: Lucian Alucard I would use my Titan to mine to get another Titan and do the same until I have 20 and then when I have enough allies then i'd sell them for the price of Plat insurance under the condition they help me wage war against the Gallente to retake Caldari Prime or fight GM corp and the Jove. But then again I always could sell them to Biomass and Valkyrie corp members who became pillars of FE for the fun of it (Hopes Bjorn returns from L2).
Good luck in mining on your own to actually get enough minerals to build one of these,let alone 20....I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you could build 100+ BS 2's with the mineral requirements of only 1 titan,and that's not even considering the amount of Tech 2 components that may also be needed in it's construction as well...
Then there's the actual base on where such a huge ship could be even built,given that the titan is the size of base itself...It Would be very cool if the player outposts that will be out in shiva could ultimately be expanded enough to accomodate buiding large ships like the Titans in space,and you'd actually see the ship comming together over a period of several weeks or so...
Thats why I am going to get more computers and accounts to mine all at once I think 7 would do fine especially if I am mining ark then to heck going for the minerals I will buy them. And the more Titans I get the easier it will be to mine especially with 8+ miner 2s' and drones one must not forget what the size of the drone capacity, think on the amount of harvesters one could hold especially the gallente. So think about what a mining op with 8 of them would be like.
You're thinking only in terms of minerals requirements,which should naturally be huge,and if the titans have no more than 8 turret hardpoints,there's not really much of a point in using them for mining ops over an Apoc anyhow,unless you're AFK mining,which you'd only do in high Sec space,not in 0.0...
The tech 2(or even 3?)components that it also may require for it's construction may end up costing more than the actual minerals as well....look no further than an interceptor's mineral/component requirements for a good example of that...
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.06.06 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/06/2004 06:20:46
Originally by: Fuse I really hope Titans are attainable. They were supposed to be out a long time ago. They should not cost more then 500 million isk and should not be allowed near gates. They would use their OWN jump drives to move around. 100 billion isk to buy one Titan yea right that is just pure bull$#it.
I'm easily expecting dreadnoughts costing 2 billion isk a piece,never mind Titans...CCP mentioned in the past that you'll never see more than 10 titans in the entire EVE universe,with each empire having 2 to 3 each at most.
I believe that the order will go something like this...
Battleships---> Elite Battleships--->dreadnoughts---->Mini titans(still atainable for the filthy rich solo players)---->Titans(only very large corps or aliances can hope to have one of those)..
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.06.06 11:14:00 -
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I just want the bpo :) ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.06.06 11:21:00 -
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titans have to be made from moons so theirs an idea on how much they will cost, i dought u can buy them with isk it would just be to far fetched.
and 8 miner 2's get real try mre like 20 miner 2's hell what am i talking about something the size of a small moon would just be able to fit a whole asteroid belt inside its cargo hold and refine it with on board refiners and build stuff with onboard factories
if its big enough to shift the gravitational effect of a planet then the share size and requirements of this behemoth would only be attainable buy mining a moon and turning its shell into a titan its self.
the share amount of hi slots would just be mind boggling no ammount of battle ships would be able to stand up to something so powerful
just my impression of a titan anywho no way would it be anything similar to a battle ship, and no way u could buy one
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.06.06 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Reloaded INC titans have to be made from moons so theirs an idea on how much they will cost, i dought u can buy them with isk it would just be to far fetched.
and 8 miner 2's get real try mre like 20 miner 2's hell what am i talking about something the size of a small moon would just be able to fit a whole asteroid belt inside its cargo hold and refine it with on board refiners and build stuff with onboard factories
if its big enough to shift the gravitational effect of a planet then the share size and requirements of this behemoth would only be attainable buy mining a moon and turning its shell into a titan its self.
the share amount of hi slots would just be mind boggling no ammount of battle ships would be able to stand up to something so powerful
just my impression of a titan anywho no way would it be anything similar to a battle ship, and no way u could buy one
Pretty sure thats what Grand Moff Tarkin thought about the deathstar. A fresh-faced blonde n00b, who hears voices with a ship, and a coupla cruise missiles wtfpwnd that.
Cautionary tale.
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.06.06 13:08:00 -
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Quote:
Pretty sure thats what Grand Moff Tarkin thought about the deathstar. A fresh-faced blonde n00b, who hears voices with a ship, and a coupla cruise missiles wtfpwnd that.
Cautionary tale.
Good one...
In any case,at the rate that major updates are being released(every 7~8 months),and that we're still far away from having having even elite Battleships,i'm betting that corp/aliance owned Titans won't be in game until sometime in 2006 at the earliest...
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.06 14:21:00 -
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I bet you money that Titans will never be allowed in empire space, wont be able to dock and when you log it wont dissappear.
I bet you money the first one dies to pirates within a week of production
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Janus Rebelknight
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Posted - 2004.06.06 15:44:00 -
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I hope miners aren't allowed on these bad boys. Would bring ninja mining back into fashion again tho.
Jump in, jump out! ----- Janus "I'm not a stripper, I'm a miner." |
Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.06.06 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Psy Corp on 06/06/2004 17:18:14 i will simply never have one.. and i dont want a slow ass space hippo ship
im going to drive my joveian battleship or battlecruiser and******titans
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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