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BigKohones
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Posted - 2008.08.21 04:38:00 -
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I'm raffling off my rigged Navy Issue Megathron. A maximum of 20 tickets will be sold at a cost of 125,000,000.00 isk each. To purchase a ticket send isk to "BigKohones" along with an evemail so I can contact you if your the lucky winner. Tickets are available for sale now through September 2nd. The winner will be responsible for pickup in Sinq Laison.
I reserve the right to refund ticket purchases on Sept 2nd if I do not sell a minimum of 10 tickets. If the minimum is met the raffle will take place on September 2nd or if 20 tickets are sold, which ever comes first.
If there are any questions or concerns evemail me =)
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Securitas Protector
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.21 06:15:00 -
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You might want to say what rigs these are. The total ISK you would be pulling in from the tickets is 2.5 billion ISK. Except for expensive officer, Tech II rig fitted Navythrons, I've never seen a Navythron approach such a price or even near. Of course, if it is officer fit say so.. |
Gryphius
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.21 06:50:00 -
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Now that seems eh. A bit ridiculous. Sure you can't otherwise get a Navythron for 125 million but I think the profit you would make from this is undeniably huge. |
Kristrina Belaure
Caldari
The Exiled Terren Empire
Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.08.21 08:23:00 -
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unless it was like the others said, t2 rigged and officer / high deadspace quality fitted, i would not be willing to pay 125m for a 1/10 - 1/20 chance to win, also, your not even a year old character yet
i smell something bad....., especially considering there is no indication on what the raffle is following, so its incredibably easy to just say an alt wins, and all of a sudden your 1.25b - 2.5b richer. |
Novantco
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Posted - 2008.08.21 22:48:00 -
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This doesn't seem to be a scam at all! 
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BigKohones
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Posted - 2008.08.22 00:29:00 -
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The term scam is so miss used in this game community its ridiculous. My terms are clearly documented above, there is nothing shady about this raffle to warranty the term "scam". I feel 125M isk is a good price because you will have anywhere between a "1 in 10" to "1 in 20" chance of winning a 500M isk ship. The rigs are all Tech 1, I don't remember what they are right now, but next time I'm in the system I will post.
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Caldari
OR WHAT' Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.22 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: XDSKIRBYKIA on 22/08/2008 01:26:18
 Originally by: BigKohones
The term scam is so miss used in this game community its ridiculous. My terms are clearly documented above, there is nothing shady about this raffle to warranty the term "scam". I feel 125M isk is a good price because you will have anywhere between a "1 in 10" to "1 in 20" chance of winning a 500M isk ship. The rigs are all Tech 1, I don't remember what they are right now, but next time I'm in the system I will post.
Mate,
This does warrent the label "scam",
1. As you have not said what it is fitted with as your price is why too high for just plain jane Navy Mega.
2. You have not said how the wining number will be picked. Whos to say you arnt just chosing the number *you have to make it so your alts cant win, ie base it a a real lotto results that you cant predict/forge.
Need i say more!
Check out how many of the other lottos are run and revise your post to at least fix the two points i have mentioned.
P.s maybe ask one of the reputable lotto runners if they would be willing to hold the ship and the ISK for you. But i still think you will have a problem with the ticket price vs the odds.
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Baroshi Hynes
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Posted - 2008.08.22 07:53:00 -
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If you have a 1/10 to 1/20 chance of winning a 500 mil ship, then make the tickets 1/10 the price of the ship (50 mil for the mathematicaly declined). You still make profits as long as at leaast 11 people by tickets, and you'll probably have more people wanting to join because they don't have to risk so much isk.
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Muddy Miner
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Posted - 2008.08.22 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Muddy Miner on 22/08/2008 13:54:15
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Mate,
This does warrent the label "scam",
A scam is an activity where one tricks another out of something tangible (either money or goods typically).
The OP clearly stated his terms, so a scam it is not.
That being said, you have to be nuts to take him up on it.
Just because you don't like the terms, does not make it a scam.
It does make you all whiners however, which is worse.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.23 02:01:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 23/08/2008 02:02:23
Originally by: Muddy Miner
Edited by: Muddy Miner on 22/08/2008 13:54:15
Quote:
Mate,
This does warrent the label "scam",
A scam is an activity where one tricks another out of something tangible (either money or goods typically).
The OP clearly stated his terms, so a scam it is not.
That being said, you have to be nuts to take him up on it.
Just because you don't like the terms, does not make it a scam.
It does make you all whiners however, which is worse.
ah, i love it when people begin pulling out dictionaries for the slight chance of flaming someone
this could easily be a scam, go take your dictionary to a classroom and leave please
EDIT: and i love it when people edit out half of the post they quoted to change its meaning
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Caldari
OR WHAT' Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.23 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Muddy Miner
Edited by: Muddy Miner on 22/08/2008 13:54:15
Quote:
Mate,
This does warrent the label "scam",
A scam is an activity where one tricks another out of something tangible (either money or goods typically).
The OP clearly stated his terms, so a scam it is not.
That being said, you have to be nuts to take him up on it.
Just because you don't like the terms, does not make it a scam.
It does make you all whiners however, which is worse.
BZZZT the OP clearly state bugger all and that is half the problem of is lotto. The other half is the odds/his profit.
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Gryphius
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.23 06:04:00 -
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Just because he stated all of his terms doesn't make it not a scam. I'm not saying it is a scam, but it would be very easy to enter an alt, pick that number, and boom! You've got everyone's ticket money!
That's a scam as far as I'm concerned.
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Muddy Miner
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Posted - 2008.08.23 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gryphius
Just because he stated all of his terms doesn't make it not a scam. I'm not saying it is a scam, but it would be very easy to enter an alt, pick that number, and boom! You've got everyone's ticket money!
That's a scam as far as I'm concerned.
That would indeed be one, but I'm strictly speaking of the setup as he first posted that everyone was whining about.
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BigKohones
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Posted - 2008.08.26 04:29:00 -
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I imagine most of you crying scam are doing so with alterior motives. Anyway this raffle is canceled. Problem is there is no way to prove I'm legit until I successfully hold an raffle, and people will be turned away from all the haters posts about 'scam' when there is simply no evidence of such.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.26 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: BigKohones
I imagine most of you crying scam are doing so with alterior motives. Anyway this raffle is canceled. Problem is there is no way to prove I'm legit until I successfully hold an raffle, and people will be turned away from all the haters posts about 'scam' when there is simply no evidence of such.
There are plenty of ways to do it, you just need to answer some of the questions asked, possibly use chribba as a safe guard and elaborate on your plan more. Also, not ripping people off will also help your chances of running a successful lottery
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Caldari
OR WHAT' Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.26 04:47:00 -
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It nothing to do with people calling it a scam and really noone has said "This is a Scam" everyone has simply stated that;
1. Profit to high
2. You have no trusted person holding the ISK
3. The way the winner is decided does not allow the contestants to trust. ie you picking number maybe change it to the UK Powerball number somthing YOU can't decide.
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