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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:33:00 -
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Star faction is a fw corp that operates in the black rise region and fights against the caldari. There is only one problem. SF isnt in FW!!!!!!!!
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Please recognize them as exploiters and make a stand against SF. Reply to this if you agree. |

Marie Trudeau
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:42:00 -
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First it's Star Fraction not "Faction". The name is based on a well-known sci fi book of the same title. Worth a read.
Second, they are not exploiting. The roleplay angle of SF is against *all* territorial empires -- they are a radical, anarchist group, and this has been a well known RP angle of theirs for almost 5 years now. They do not want to pick a side in FW, they want to be at war with all of the militias, but the game doesn't give them a way to do that right now, stupidly.
Third, anyone can shoot at you in low sec if they are willing to take the sec hit. Shoot back or not, depending on what you want to do. Pirates can, and will, shoot at you as well in Black Rise. Pirates can also wardec FW corps (and have done so). If SF wants to do the same, clearly this is allowed by the game. If you are involved in an empire war with someone, another corp can still dec you -- that's how it works. FW is like one big empire war, so of course the participants can be decced by other corps like SF or others.
CCP needs to introduce a mechanic that allows a faction (or factions) to be decced -- that would be the best mechanic I think. But right now, SF is doing the best it can do to match its ideological hatred of territorial empires, on the one hand, with the cramped game mechanics of CCP around FW. Not doing anything wrong at all, to be honest. |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:43:00 -
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I agree! Ban the lot of them I say.
Oh and it's Star Fraction.
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Jehosephat Godlittle
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:45:00 -
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Anarchists! |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jehosephat Godlittle Anarchists!
No you are... wait..
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Janu Hull on 21/08/2008 10:48:12 They're not anarchists, they're nihilists.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull Edited by: Janu Hull on 21/08/2008 10:48:12 They're not anarchists, they're nihilists.
I would argue with you but it would be oh so very pointless (*Hand+Staple+Forehead)

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OMGJITA
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:50:00 -
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SF are not really doing anything wrong other than some slightly lame tacktic's on the back end of FW. (this is all a matter of opinion).
Frankly however the wardece mechanic needs changing, if you dec from a corp to a corp that should be fine, however if you dece from a alliance to a corp the malita should be dec'ed automatically.
for all the role play guff i do wonder if they would be doing this if they got forced to dec the whole militia noobs and all.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Heartstone on 21/08/2008 10:53:26
Originally by: OMGJITA
for all the role play guff i do wonder if they would be doing this if they got forced to dec the whole militia noobs and all.
Categorically and 100% yes I would press the button. It is big and shiny and red (although slightly worn from overuse)
I give this thread a 10/10 for giving me something to do whilst waiting for my Anarchist Plex to spawn.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:52:00 -
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The picture above, made my day.
Anarchists and Nihilists should be shot. |
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OMGJITA
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone Edited by: Heartstone on 21/08/2008 10:53:26
Originally by: OMGJITA
for all the role play guff i do wonder if they would be doing this if they got forced to dec the whole militia noobs and all.
Categorically and 100% yes I would press the button. It is big and shiny and red (although slightly worn from overuse)
I give this thread a 10/10 for giving me something to do whilst waiting for my Anarchist Plex to spawn.
glad to hear it! carry on sir! |

JOSEPHx
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:55:00 -
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Recognize! |

Cailais
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:59:00 -
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I was just thinking how we really really needed another thread on this topic as the other one was only about 9 pages long. And look - heres one!
However, Im always happy to provide advice to those being shot at: A radical new tactic has been developed that's pretty much accesible to everyone -
Fight back and stop whining.
C.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: JOSEPHx Recognize!
The Larch |

Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:03:00 -
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Adapt, noobs, adapt. |

Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:03:00 -
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In lieu of alliances being allowed to fight alongside the militia I'd be more than happy to be able to war dec the entire Amarr militia.
Ushra'Khan decced the top five Amarr militia corps and invited any and all members of the Amarr militia to war dec us and we would make it mutual (i.e. nobody has to keep paying war fees).
With the mechanics CCP has given us that was the best offer we could make but there were no takers.
FW needs to be improved greatly. I'm certainly not leaving my alliance to play capture the flag.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:03:00 -
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This is horrible, please ccp help the good guys and nerf the bad guys! |

Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
However, Im always happy to provide advice to those being shot at: A radical new tactic has been developed that's pretty much accesible to everyone -
Fight back and stop whining.
Blasphemy!
You need to get banned from the forums for this, banned I say! |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly This is horrible, please ccp help the good guys and nerf the bad guys!
No no you got it all wrong. Nerf the Bad guys and Nerf the good guys ever so slightly less and then discover you have in fact boosted the Bad guys whilst nerfing the Good guys so much they become the bad guys and suddenly everyone has to swap membership cards of the good guy and bad guy clubs. After that it just get confusing.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone No no you got it all wrong. Nerf the Bad guys and Nerf the good guys ever so slightly less and then discover you have in fact boosted the Bad guys whilst nerfing the Good guys so much they become the bad guys and suddenly everyone has to swap membership cards of the good guy and bad guy clubs. After that it just get confusing.
I am impressed. Always the Anarchists at heart. |
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Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy Star faction is a fw corp that operates in the black rise region and fights against the caldari. There is only one problem. SF isnt in FW!!!!!!!!
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Please recognize them as exploiters and make a stand against SF. Reply to this if you agree.
Incredible; there's so much wrong in here that I'm only going to say one thing: By all means please make a stand, come and fight. We're based in Iidoken, it's not hard to find!
Summon all of them and tell, we shall meet them on the vasty plains of hell. |

Tarun Thred
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:14:00 -
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100% support the OP, permaban the lot of them.
(Oh, and please edit the thread title) |

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:14:00 -
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What you are describing has nothing to do with exploiting, it is called piracy.
If true, then it is a shame that a proud entity like SF should fall to such a low level. Surely a splinter corporation to join a militia is preferable (like Kinda'Shuuja of Ushra'Khan). |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Heartstone on 21/08/2008 11:15:33
Originally by: Skogen Gump
We're based in Iidoken, it's not hard to find!
!!!!!!
Oh no you have given away our secret base location. You are a very bad anarchist and must be punished forthwith! Now we're going to have to run away to another part of Gallente space and set up a new secret base there and you KNOW how I hate Gallente food.
/me waggles finger at Skogen
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone Edited by: Heartstone on 21/08/2008 11:15:33
Originally by: Skogen Gump
We're based in Iidoken, it's not hard to find!
!!!!!!
Oh no you have given away our secret base location. You are a very bad anarchist and must be punished forthwith! Now we're going to have to run away to another part of Gallente space and set up a new secret base there and you KNOW how I hate Gallente food.
/me waggles finger at Skogen
Hey!! You can't have your secret base in Iidoken! MY secret base is in Iidoken!!! |

squall321
Gallente Unity Of Legends
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:25:00 -
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/me waves at his SF friends
Having fun eh :D |

Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:35:00 -
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Just because I have this masochistic streak and love to take trolls seriously…
Originally by: masternerdguy There is only one problem. SF isnt in FW!!!!!!!!
Why is that a problem?
Quote: Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters.
How are they exploiting? Quote: They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side.
Seeing as how they'd have fewer targets if they picked a side, why would they? Quote: They just attack you in lo sec.
Isn't that kind of what lowsec is all about?
Quote: Please recognize them as exploiters and make a stand against SF. Reply to this if you agree.
Just to make it clear: even though I've replied, I don't agree. |

Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
You are a very bad anarchist and must be punished forthwith!
Punish me later, I'll bring the scented bootlaces! |

Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Once upon a time, before FW, there was something called Pirates. These 'Pirates' actually shot and KILLED people who they wern't even at war with in low-sec!
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Lucai
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy Star faction is a fw corp that operates in the black rise region and fights against the caldari. There is only one problem. SF isnt in FW!!!!!!!!
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Please recognize them as exploiters and make a stand against SF. Reply to this if you agree.
O RLY? YA RLY. NO WAI! |
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Siberys
Gallente Nebula Sharks
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:58:00 -
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Anarchy! Anarchy!
*Fires AK-47 in air*
Okay, I'm joking.
That is a nice concept though, having anarchists in EVE, and opposing all factions. |

london
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:10:00 -
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/me is wearing his anarchist underwear.  |

Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: london /me is wearing his anarchist underwear. 
Anarchist underwear < commando. |

Terror Rising
Death Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:13:00 -
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Sh*t! Really? Wow this is really new news .... Bang up to date and everything ..
Tell you what why don't we stop anyone in FW being wardec'd .... That'll be nice and warm and fuzzy for you. |

Jones Bones
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:17:00 -
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If the Caldari FW corps really cared they would just dec Star Fraction. |

Drykor
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:34:00 -
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Look mom, I'm in another whine thread. |

Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jones Bones If the Caldari FW corps really cared they would just dec Star Fraction.
Dude... lowsec...
If they cared, they could just return fire.
I think the problem is that SF have pilots with upwards of 3 or 4 years PvP experience, access to excellent ships and will happily throw 1 mill SP recruits into the middle of a battle for a trial by fire introduction to the harsh side of EVE. They are simply very good at what they do. |

Tainted OrPHeN
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tainted OrPHeN on 21/08/2008 12:38:37
not another one.
Guess I'm going to need some more antimatter
Purge the exploiters!~
owai-
*edit*
oh god oh god we signed up for a pvp militia and like, pvp is happening! WHAT IS GOING! |

Pithecanthropus
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:45:00 -
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As a fellow role player, I support Star Frictions actions to abuse an obvious flawed game mechanic. I support their whines to get alliances to join militias. I support their lameduck CEO and chair of the CSM... Jade ****stintine... she knows what's best for Jade Online.  |

Cassandra Valieries
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Posted - 2008.08.21 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy Star faction is a fw corp that operates in the black rise region and fights against the caldari. There is only one problem. SF isnt in FW!!!!!!!!
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Please recognize them as exploiters and make a stand against SF. Reply to this if you agree.
Pats the poor useless noob troll on the head. I could waste my time writing a long rant....or I could just: Your stuff my hangar (yey got to say it first!) |
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.08.21 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Originally by: Jones Bones If the Caldari FW corps really cared they would just dec Star Fraction.
Dude... lowsec...
If they cared, they could just return fire.
I think the problem is that SF have pilots with upwards of 3 or 4 years PvP experience, access to excellent ships and will happily throw 1 mill SP recruits into the middle of a battle for a trial by fire introduction to the harsh side of EVE. They are simply very good at what they do.
Unfortunatly, (and i am not saying this is the law, but it is certainly what i have seen), is that star fraction are not engaging THAT* much in low sec, they more often than not dec'ing corps they out number 5 to 1 and then chasing them around empire whilst avoiding the main Faction fleets.
having said that, this is only what i have seen in empire, this is not looking at killboards or reviewing the figures, more the mill of chat than data.
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2008.08.21 13:19:00 -
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mommy I want to choose who I PvP! |

Tainted OrPHeN
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.21 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pithecanthropus As a fellow role player, I support Star Frictions actions to abuse an obvious flawed game mechanic. I support their whines to get alliances to join militias. I support their lameduck CEO and chair of the CSM... Jade ****stintine... she knows what's best for Jade Online. 
mien hero. |

Murk Loar
Caldari The Ex-Patriots
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Posted - 2008.08.21 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: masternerdguy
Actually SF are a big bunch of exploiters. They take part in fw without even having the guts to join a side. They just attack you in lo sec.
Once upon a time, before FW, there was something called Pirates. These 'Pirates' actually shot and KILLED people who they wern't even at war with in low-sec!

NO WAY.IMPOSSIBLE. |

Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Janu Hull Edited by: Janu Hull on 21/08/2008 10:48:12 They're not anarchists, they're nihilists.
I would argue with you but it would be oh so very pointless (*Hand+Staple+Forehead)

say what you want about the tenets of anarchism, at least it's an ethos... |
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:17:00 -
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People shooting people in low sec?
Say it ain't so!!!
Locked.
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