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Gamesguy
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.23 09:20:00 -
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The only thing cerb has over a drake in fleet is it can potentially kill high speed inties.
Drake is better for everything else, including anti-nano.
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Gamesguy
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.23 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Gamesguy on 23/08/2008 14:02:02
Edited by: Gamesguy on 23/08/2008 13:55:07
 Originally by: Kira Pasisson
disagreed @ 2 points
first: raven is bs, therefore will be killed by enemy bs therefore a lot less survivability (also cause of much higher sig....)
second: role is anti-support and no cruise missiles will do a lot less damage vs cruisers cause of their exp-radius (base: 300m (average cruiser 150))
btw...@ bnc pilot: show me how u get that incredible range on a drake plz
1. So what? The cerb won't be shot at by anti-support? A BS is superior to a hac if they're accomplishing the same goals, vastly more ehp from the bs ensures this.
2. Cruise with good skills(ie 4) has 240 radius. A falcon has 180 sig radius. The higher dps from the raven makes up for the small damage reduction via sig radius.
The range is worthless, any support worth killing with a cerb will be mwding towards you, thus the range is unnecessary. If you really want to play long range anti-support(ie shooting at their eagles and falcons and such that don't come any closer), use a raven.
If you want anti-tackling support, use a drake or an eagle.
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Gamesguy
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.23 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Pasisson
well actually there will be always more enemy-bs than enemy long-range support^^ so still ur survivability sucks....
240sig -> 180sig = 25% less damage
raven with 3bcs and faction cruise (all skills V): 518dps
cerb with 3 bcs and faction heavies (all skills V): 394dps
ergo: ca. 24% less damage....huh the cerb got 1% more damage on a cruiser, and even more on those who got lower sig-radius than 180...
true, if the raven uses em-missiles it got an advantage against falcons again.....but still like i said, survivability in a raven is much lower simply cause of the fact it will be called prinmary at some time due to its bs-status
and biggestt is right when he adds agility and stuff...but maybe its just personal preference, some ppl love bs, others do prefer hacs....
btw...afaik i havent seen many ravens with missile speed rigs....but it is often used on fleet-cerbs....so the cerbs' missiles should be faster
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but i guess the bs-hac discussion is not the point in this thread
And then you throw in a couple of cheap explosion radius rigs and the raven now heavilly outdps the cerb.
EM is an excellent damage type in anti-support because nobody tanks a fleet ship, and EM damage is king against untanked ships(barring minmatar t2).
You can't use that logic. If you use that logic no one would ever bring any BS because they would always be primary. The side that brings more BS has an advantage for a reason. More BS is always better. Especially since the raven will be competing with the cerb for the same role.
Speed agility etc don't matter in fleet. You should be aligned regardless.
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