Originally by: Rhatar Khurin

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Just add proper collision damage in the game. Then you'll find me parked in a fenrir outside jita 4-4 watching with delight as hundreds of people splat like flies on the side of my ship.

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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin

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Originally by: SurrenderMonkey

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Ever seen the kind of damage that large ocean-going vessels do when they collide with something even at very low speeds?

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That's a crap example. Ever seen the damage that is caused to a bus when they hit a bicycle?

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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I always cringe when I see people using kinetic energy to describe 'collisions'. It's momentum thatÆs conserved dammit!

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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Originally by: SurrenderMonkey

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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I always cringe when I see people using kinetic energy to describe 'collisions'. It's momentum thatÆs conserved dammit!

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Which is nice and all, but momentum doesn't tell us a whole lot about the havoc that would be wreaked. Kinetic energy does. :D

If we're just talking about the final velocity of two masses colliding with each other, then I guess we could stick with momentum, but a lot of this conversation has been about the fact that an interceptor colliding with a battleship would likely annihilate them both.

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Er, yes it does: Impulse (J) = Mv - Mu (v = object velocity after, u = object velocity before, J = int{Fdt} )

Once you have the forces involved you can look at the yield strength of the materials involved and.... (sure you get the point)

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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KE isn't conserved in collisions, which is where most people go wrong.

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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Originally by: SurrenderMonkey

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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 21/08/2008 19:15:51

Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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KE isn't conserved in collisions, which is where most people go wrong.

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KE actually is preserved in a perfectly elastic collision. Doesn't exist IRL, of course, but Eve obviously doesn't use RL physics.

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But of course, in a perfectly elastic collision no-one really cares if you have the KE equivalent to a small Nuke...

Anyhow, proper collisions would be cool, but with so many pitfalls re. balance, probably never going to happen...

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Originally by: Gabriel Karade

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You could also argue that, a ship using MWD 'trickery' doesn't have the same 'real' kinetic energy and momentum; the huge speed increase over that attainable with afterburners implies something exotic.

Or in a 'fluff' way:
"collision causes the field to collapse, causing the ship to revert to its real mass/velocity state"
i.e - your 6 km/sec 'manned missile' reverts to a 500 m/sec 'manned missile' and does, to use the phrase, get squashed on the windshield like a bug...


But even overcomming that, you'd still have to consider the CONCORD thinking on the matter.... "hmm are we supposed to shoot pilot A, or do we shoot pilot B?"

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