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Judge Ment Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.09.03 05:49:00 - [1201] 41 pages later "Smack still strong"
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.03 06:23:00 - [1202] Originally by: Ki An CCP has provided lots of stuff for me. Now they're taking it all away to cater to whimps like you. Ah, so you are just a nanowhiner.
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.03 06:28:00 - [1203] Originally by: Clair Bear Suicide gankers bought (or built) ships and modules providing a mineral sink. Wave bye bye to that massive demand. FW is pretty much done. Which means expect ship hulls to sell at exactly insurance payout. And empire minerals to crash through the floor. Can you please explain why the lack of insurance payout will stop people suicide ganking valuable targets? It's a minor setback - you won't have griefing anymore, for sure. Now you'll actually have to have a target for your suicide gank instead of just randomly blowing up Hulks and CNRs. Empire minerals will crash through the floor simply because we have many new players signing up, many of whom apparently think that mining is a great way to make income! I'm pretty sure more ships are lost to FW and mission-running than are lost to CONCORD. I don't understand how the lack of insurance payout for ships lost to CONCORD is going to kill factional warfare - please explain?
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.09.03 06:37:00 - [1204] I'm sorry to inform, that sky is not falling on this side of fence. In fact it looks disturbingly stable. Oh yeah, grass is also pretty green.
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2008.09.03 09:16:00 - [1205] Originally by: Ruze I doubt either of us think in the extreme ink the other paints with. Penalties are all well and good. Suiciding was imbalanced as hell. But with added security, those choosing to live in hisec should be forced to pay the piper, somehow. Tax them. 10-15% off every bounty, mission payout, market action, rental fee, etc, etc. This. With an added 5-10% if you chose to remain in an NPC corp. New prices will become the standard amongst the hi-sec only crowd and so the impact would not be as harsh as it may initially seem. Anyone can form a one-man-corp to avoid NPC corp tax and if you want stuff cheaper (because market taxes will be passed onto the customer) then you can make your purchases outside of hi-security space and run the risk of losing your cargo. CONCORD tax you for their protection much as any alliance expects returns from it's members. NPC corps tax their members just as player corps have their own taxes and expectations. Then, as far as I'm concerned, CCP can do whatever they like about hi-sec security and war-decs.
Dave Davies	Posted - 2008.09.03 09:25:00 - [1206] Originally by: Clair Bear Screw the pirates, the ganking nerf is going to be a major kick in the nuts for empire manufacturing carebears. Think about this for a moment. Whether by chilling effect or actual ganking there was a cost associated with hauling or mining AFK. Now that's all gone. Any slack jawed moron can haul or mine AFK. Which means more of the 'X I do is FREE since I live with my parents and they pay for electricity lol' types are going to be swimming in YOUR soup without natural predators to thin the herds. Suicide gankers bought (or built) ships and modules providing a mineral sink. Wave bye bye to that massive demand. FW is pretty much done. Which means expect ship hulls to sell at exactly insurance payout. And empire minerals to crash through the floor. Which leaves nullsec. And guess what -- nullsec residents are almost entirely self sufficient. They don't NEED you, except possibly to mine ice at 2M/hour. HOLY PEW PEWS IT'S TEH APAKALAPSE!!! ECONOMIC MELTDOWN!!! OPEN TEH DARN FED WINDOW!!! Well, either that or you've finally collected enough high- meta molehills to build your very own Mountain II. I got 5 ISK says it's the latter. ----- Pop Quiz ----- Can you tell me what's wrong with this sentence.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 09:38:00 - [1207] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 09:41:24 Originally by: Mara Rinn Can you please explain why the lack of insurance payout will stop people suicide ganking valuable targets? Assuming no insurance payout for concorded ships. It took around 15 torp ravens to pop a freighter in a 0.5 (obelisk highest hit points, slave set, in gang, 5% hull mod, assuming 3 volleys of torps get off) Now concord have been buffed so your looking at (depending on the sec status of the system) anywhere between 25 and 45 torp ravens. (working on the principle you are gogin to get max 2 and possibly only 1 volley off) So the cost (at 120million per raven (t2 bcus, arbelest sieges, t1 midslots) leaves costs for ganking a freighter at somewhere between 3 - 5 billion isk. Ok, now from experience, you are looking at perhaps 35% of the loot surviving. So to cover the costs, a hit would have to be carrying maybe 13 billion isk of cargo. Thats to break even Trust me - its incredibly rare to see that amount of isk in a freighter. From experience you would be scanning for... maybe 30 hours to see one. So thats 25+ guys hanging around for 30 hours. A good 750 man hours. To break even. SKUNK
Hurrum Hurrum Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:21:00 - [1208] Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop **ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid'
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:25:00 - [1209] Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop **ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid' I believe the modern term is "Downy" CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Hurrum Hurrum Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:25:00 - [1210] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Pithecanthropus You'll be waiting a long time... cuz I'm happy with how I play. You're the one whining about what other's do in some other space. Focus on yourself for once, maybe you'll feel better. He's right, to be honest. What we need to hope for is another good PvP game. If one of those comes out CCP won't be able to take the PvPers for granted anymore. They will be forced to make "design decisions" that go our way every once in a while. lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it.
Hurrum Hurrum Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:28:00 - [1211] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop **ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid' I believe the modern term is "Downy" My mistake. I was reporting the guy and it made a post by mistake.
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:43:00 - [1212] Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop **ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid' I believe the modern term is "Downy" My mistake. I was reporting the guy and it made a post by mistake. Ah, so you're one of those people who fakes offence on behalf of others in order to get those who disagree with you banned from the forum. Classy. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:45:00 - [1213] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:46:16 Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:46:01 Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid' I believe the modern term is "Downy" My mistake. I was reporting the guy and it made a post by mistake. Oh gawd its the thought police Originally by:** Hurrum Hurrum lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it. That looks suspiciosuly like a troll. REPORT HIM EVERYONE HES A NAUGHTY WAUGHTY HE BWOKE THE WULES SKUNK
Hurrum Hurrum Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:48:00 - [1214] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum Originally by: Haakelen I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the ** out and stop **ing up Eve. More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid' I believe the modern term is "Downy" My mistake. I was reporting the guy and it made a post by mistake. Ah, so you're one of those people who fakes offence on behalf of others in order to get those who disagree with you banned from the forum. Classy. No. I'm one of those people who abides by the forum rules. Personal attacks/name calling are not permitted. If someone disagrees with another they should follow the forum rules. If they can't then I will report them. All of them. I thought someone like you, who has 10x more forum posts than kills, would know that.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:51:00 - [1215] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:52:04 Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum No. I'm one of those people who abides by the forum rules. Personal attacks/name calling are not permitted. If someone disagrees with another they should follow the forum rules. If they can't then I will report them. All of them. I thought someone like you, who has 10x more forum posts than kills, would know that. No your not - your a snidey little hypocrite. By all means play the role of "indignant from Rotheram" but make damn sure your not at it yourself. Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it. RULES: # Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude.
Hurrum Hurrum Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 10:54:00 - [1216] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum No. I'm one of those people who abides by the forum rules. Personal attacks/name calling are not permitted. If someone disagrees with another they should follow the forum rules. If they can't then I will report them. All of them. I thought someone like you, who has 10x more forum posts than kills, would know that. No your not - your a snidey little hypocrite. Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it. RULES: # Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude. So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers.
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:20:00 - [1217] WHINY PIRATE REVENGE THREAD CONTINUES.......... .
Call'Da Poleece	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:42:00 - [1218] Originally by: Drunk Driver WHINY PIRATE REVENGE THREAD CONTINUES.......... . But unfortunately does not deliver....
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:46:00 - [1219] Originally by: Drunk Driver WHINY PIRATE REVENGE THREAD CONTINUES.......... . LYING ISK SELLER TROLL REPEATS LIBELLOUS SLOGANS AFTER RUNNING OUT OF ARGUMENTS. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:46:00 - [1220] Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum No. I'm one of those people who abides by the forum rules. Personal attacks/name calling are not permitted. If someone disagrees with another they should follow the forum rules. If they can't then I will report them. All of them. I thought someone like you, who has 10x more forum posts than kills, would know that. Ah, legitimacy through killboard stats, eh? Well then, may we see yours? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:49:00 - [1221] Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:50:00 - [1222] Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it. Hmmm do I have 60 kills in the last 10 months? Wow, that's pretty good, considering I've been inactive for 6 of those months. I rarely manage to kill that many people as I find gate camping boring and like flying solo. Can I see your killboard stats to compare? I can't find Hurrum Hurrum anywhere on any killboard. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:50:00 - [1223] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 11:55:00 - [1224] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one. Its the standard dance. A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main. b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills. A) Im actually a miner and have no kills SKUNK
Call'Da Poleece	Posted - 2008.09.03 12:00:00 - [1225] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one. Its the standard dance. A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main. b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills. A) Im actually a miner and have no kills SKUNK A true whorum at work folks ... its got it all, conclusions well and truely jumped, insults and lack of any real data/information. And yes you wont find any kills for me because I am either an alt, or a main thats a cowardly miner. We all know what you will pick
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.09.03 12:02:00 - [1226] Originally by: Call'Da Poleece A true whorum at work folks ... its got it all, conclusions well and truely jumped, insults and lack of any real data/information. And yes you wont find any kills for me because I am either an alt, or a main thats a cowardly miner. We all know what you will pick Look, another alt who is afraid of bringing consequences to his leet pvp main. The forum is crawling with them these days. All of them in favor of the security change, go figure. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.03 12:11:00 - [1227] Originally by: Call'Da Poleece Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one. Its the standard dance. A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main. b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills. A) Im actually a miner and have no kills SKUNK A true whorum at work folks ... its got it all, conclusions well and truely jumped, insults and lack of any real data/information. And yes you wont find any kills for me because I am either an alt, or a main thats a cowardly miner. We all know what you will pick Well, Im perfectly happy for Hurrum to post with his main and I will reasess my post. Experience show that I dont think this will happen As for you, well initial assement - You dont have a ! as a portrait (so not a new rolled troll alt) - You have an alt sounding name - You dont have a corp ticker showing - so probable not a COAD troll. - You bought a GTC early in your existance (alt) Until I get into game - i cannot check your corp/other details. SKUNK
Empress Norton	Posted - 2008.09.03 12:36:00 - [1228] hai gusy
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.03 12:51:00 - [1229] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 11:58:06 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. Says the guy with.... zero kills? SKUNK Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one. Its the standard dance. A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main. b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills. A) Im actually a miner and have no kills. Im afraid of griefers. Please help me CCP. SKUNK Fixed a small yet important detail. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Meriela	Posted - 2008.09.03 13:25:00 - [1230] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it. Hmmm do I have 60 kills in the last 10 months? Wow, that's pretty good, considering I've been inactive for 6 of those months. I rarely manage to kill that many people as I find gate camping boring and like flying solo. Can I see your killboard stats to compare? I can't find Hurrum Hurrum anywhere on any killboard. You were inactive for 6 months? That's at least one major patch you missed out on then, yet you know everything about the game and how it should be as soon as you come back?

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