Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

Whoa. I like.

Can has Hound, Manticore, and Purifier?

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

If this is the Nemesis, this will also be the Tristan right ?!

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

The Nemesis and Manticore look awesome but the Hound and Purifier don't look anywhere near as good .

please re look at them and make them look better than just a graphic update.

New bombers are awesome!
Honestly this is how I now imagine redesigns for all T2 ship models. T2 ship designs should have not only new skin and few meshes on hull but rather whole new model inspired by T1 predecessor.

I.
DEMAND.
PICTURES.
FFS.

Picture posting Sarmatiko best Sarmatiko

Only re-uploaded them from the other poster hosting to imgur and posted here

I love them SOOOO much. I fly the Nemesis and the Hound and they both look great.

But there is one problem....

I cant fly the Manticore and that looks soooo sexy !

Big Hug to CCP this year, cant wait for these in Inferno...

/Faints.

Wait, the Nemesis has arrows pointing to both turret and launcher hardpoints...

/Faints again.

DONT FUCK WITH MY HOUND CCP.

I love the look of that ship.

Edit: Ok I looked at the pictures. They are good.

Wait, the Nemesis has arrows pointing to both turret and launcher hardpoints...

/Faints again.

well yeah its a tristan afterall

I know, but it is the launchers hardpoints I am interested in.

Current systems doesn't need space for them since they come from the middle of the ship.

New Hardpoints being shown is a strong indication that Launcher models maybe coming for Inferno.

Fingers crossed.

I know, but it is the launchers hardpoints I am interested in.

Current systems doesn't need space for them since they come from the middle of the ship.

New Hardpoints being shown is a strong indication that Launcher models maybe coming for Inferno.

Fingers crossed.

But they already announced visible launchers are coming.

Makes me wonder how they will look fitted with the fixed siege launchers and the bomb. Siege launcher points seem semi obvious. Bomb launcher hardpoint not so much from these images. IIRC there were more perspectives on the nemesis in the keynote unveiling.

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

I really do wish they'd turn the old models into limited run ships though - once a model has been updated they usually still keep the original in the stuff files. Don't destroy all the old ones - let them die or be collected until theres none left.

This is actually a real good idea! Every time a ship is changed or gets a major update, only use the new model for new builds.

That would have people go "ooh look that guy has the new model already", later on "look at this guy in his beater", and much later "yo man, vintage ship there dude" :)

New Nemesis is great, but I do have one minor gripe: the piddling little engine nozzles. Make 'em a bit beefier, please, CCP.

more importantly:

HOW THE HEK* ARE THE TORPEDO LAUNCHERS GONNA FIT ON THOSE SHIPS???????


*pun intended

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

You know, as CCP seem to be erring towards custom ship models for specific T2 classes, I wonder if the Helios can be restored to its beaufiful Maulus hull?

Screw the fact the Imicus is the t1 scanning frig, as the proposed redesign still looks naff I'd much rather see the Maulus hull variation used again considering how awesome it is.

If this is the Nemesis, this will also be the Tristan right ?!

Here is the new Nemesis: http://t.co/6W5ruI7L

If this is the Nemesis, this will also be the Tristan right ?!

If this is the Nemesis, this will also be the Tristan right ?!

Apologies for the necro but I am pleasantly surprised by the purifier and take back my prior negative comments about it.
http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/gallery/

Oh FFS the minmatar ship still looks like a pickup truck with a ladder strapped to it. I want to bomb stuff, not put two coats of paint on it (in one afternoon).

Necro is actually worth it in this case; I was considering booting up a new thread myself but I recalled there being an older thread.

Direct links to the pictures:
Updated Purifier
Hound, coloured
Manticore, higher res
Nemesis, higher res

TBH I didn't like the Hound at first but on second look it's actually pretty neat. I just think it looks like it's missing something, some... body I guess But actually I'm looking forward to it.

And of course the new Imicus is still ****.

Amazing that they somehow managed to make them all look like a Drake. And the Nemesis looks more Caldari than Gallente. Oh well, they are probably too far into the process to be fixed to look less like drakes and less Caldari. I mean no problem if you want to make the Manticore look that way, but not all of them.

Regardless what they may look like, there is one outlier in the agility department, the Nemesis. I've flown all three and the Nemesis has so much worse agility than the other three that any of the other three are preferable no matter what damage you are trying to maximise.

Would be nice if they could all be de-drakified before hitting Tranquility. Particularly for the Nemesis. And please do something to bring the Nemesis agility into the neighborhood of the others.

No offense intended... but are you blind?


How do any of them look even remotely like the Drake?

Well, they are all flattened out. What happened to "vertical"? The existing Purifier and Nemesis are rather vertical, but the new ones will be flat like a drake.

I ask whether you are blind to not see the new purifier's resemblance to the drake. right down to the lancher vents along each slight downward sloping side of the broad back of the flattened hull.

Next the new Hound. Where did the pretty shark fin shaped fins go? Now they look like very square/rectangular and Caldari, indeed drake like. Additionally, look at the orientation of those fins. I would almost wager that if you measured the angle of those fins they would be the same as the angle of the drake's outer slope.

Kestral, ironically looks the least drake-like due to the two elongated beaks on each side.

Nemesis is again flattened like a drake pancake. Overall not a bad strategy to make it sorta manta ray shaped but should be more rounded and less angular, and have a roll to it like manta ray swimming through water to avoid the drake similarities. Also, and it could be just an unfortunate side-effect of black and white rendering, but it looks incredibly gray and caldari, not green and gallente.

So, I hope that opened your eyes.

You just further confused me. Sure the hound has differences, but it still totally undrakelike. Seems your just calling any flat ship something that "looks like a drake." the purifier looks very new amarr to me. Visually I'd say it fits in well with the abbadon/legion/oracle/maller models from what we are able to see. The nemesis is somewhat unique looking, but that seems to be what many Gallente ships have going for them, but much like the others it feels like an evolution of the current hull.

No, I totally get this. At least from a designers view. Draw a line along the top of the ship designs front to back. All the new SB hulls extend left and right from this line out and down roughly the same as the drake.

The nemesis has lost it's verticality, the manticore it's asymmetry, the Purifier is less curvy and the Hound gets no fins that break up the shape (and do make it look like a speeder bike). EDIT: I could not resist.

Being a Minnie fan, I'm disappointed that the newest designs (tornado and hound) are losing their hard edges and utilitarian look. Everything is getting rounder, softer and symmetrical.

Hope they don't do this to my cheetah. I love my flying flipper baby.

That link above is outdated, here's the real thing http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/gallery/ (hint: purifier looks awesome).


All 4 redesigns are great, some of the best stuff that has come from CCP Art.

The refined art styles and themes are well conceived and would like to see more. Stuff actually looks sci fi and high tech.


People should better focus on asking for rebalancing the stealth bombers in light of their new models. The Nemesis has MANY problems with base stats and fitting. PLEASE FIX SB BALANCE CCP.

Thanks for posting those pics Sarmatiko. Those ships really look great. I can't decide which is my favourite, Gallente or Caldari. They even managed to make the Purifier not suck. Didn't think that was possible. Now I've just gotta decide which one to train for

Symmetry is not a bad thing. These ships are mass produced remember, as much as you'd like to think your ship is special and one of a kind, it's not. The rust color isn't rust. It's the ferrite compound used in minmatar armour plates, as any T2 industrialist will tell you.
Too much asymmetry is not realistic for a ship in space as it won't be able to maneuver properly or equally in both directions ( along the axis of asymmetry )

Too much asymmetry is not realistic for a ship in space as it won't be able to maneuver properly or equally in both directions ( along the axis of asymmetry )

The Nemesis and Manticore look awesome but the Hound and Purifier don't look anywhere near as good .

please re look at them and make them look better than just a graphic update.

Sure it will. For one, asymmetry in the geometry is something completely different than asymmetry in the mass distribution, for another, you can fix that with proper thrust application.

GǪand finally, there isn't a single symmetrical ship in EVE anyway. Nor in real life for that matter.

Name 1 ship in real life that isn't symmetrical.

( I mean fundamentally, not some tiny off rigger)

Yes I am aware of physics. I have a university degree. But why go through all the trouble of complicated thrust balancing to compensate for some stupid asymmetrical design when it's much more efficient and easy to manufacture symmetrical ones?
What happens if ones of your off kilter engines break down? Sorry it's not the standard size one so you have to custom order it.
What if a you need to enter a gravity well of a planet? Well your structure creaks because no matter which way you orient yourself you are imbalances.

It just makes little sense. It only has aesthetic effect. No practical reasons.

Nemesis and Manticore look phenomenal.
Purifier looks like a golden cockroach.
Hound looks like scaffolding.

That Golden Roach is amazing.

True, the ship itself is amazing, but the model is bleh and lacks detail compared to all the others.

Also, EM torpedo and bomb effects are awesome.

Name 1 ship in real life that isn't symmetrical.

( I mean fundamentally, not some tiny off rigger)

Yes I am aware of physics. I have a university degree. But why go through all the trouble of complicated thrust balancing to compensate for some stupid asymmetrical design when it's much more efficient and easy to manufacture symmetrical ones?
What happens if ones of your off kilter engines break down? Sorry it's not the standard size one so you have to custom order it.
What if a you need to enter a gravity well of a planet? Well your structure creaks because no matter which way you orient yourself you are imbalances.

It just makes little sense. It only has aesthetic effect. No practical reasons.

CCP touches something it breaks.

Bombs not doing any dmg to each other, then bombs doing max dmg to all other bombs, now bombs dont go off if u warp or cloak.

Didnt your mama ever teach you if its not broke dont fix it? Guessing not.

You want bombers to be the next AoE doomsday??? You seem to be making them obsolete.
If you want them to be that then perhaps you SHOULD keep it so bombs dont hurt each other so EVERY BOMBER can use the bombs intended for his ship.

You people spend more time breaking **** than doing anything else. Logoff your toon, and do your job. If you dont know WHAT IS BROKEN contact me and i will give you a honeydoo list

Name 1 ship in real life that isn't symmetrical.

[...]there isn't a single symmetrical ship in EVE anyway. Nor in real life for that matter.

Nice necro. That means I can respond to this one that I missed the first time aroundGǪSince I was talking about space shipsGǪ Pretty much all of them past the Apollo capsules (and even then, the LEMs weren't all that symmetrical).

Largely because, in space, it doesn't particularly matter and is fairly easy to engineer your way around, and in atmosphere, it's actually detrimental to the flight performance of the craft. Same goes for pretty much every aerodynamically lifted aircraft GÇö the asymmetry is what makes the whole thing work. Zeppelins, dirigibles and other LTE tend more towards some kind of axial symmetry, but then you still want to build in mass asymmetry to keep the whole thing facing the right side up.

I know its a hornet's nest, but i'll have to ask you to please elaborate on this ....

The Rokh and Scorpion are actually not symmetrical.

The Scorpion definitely isn't. The Rokh scores fairly high, but it's still quite top heavy.

Other contenders for actual symmetry are the Zephyr and the Minmatar Shuttle, but they both have prongs and protrusions that keeps them from being properly symmetrical. The Avatar might look like a good candidate face-on, but from the side, it rather looks like the poor mushroom is about to fall overGǪ

The Scorpion definitely isn't. The Rokh scores fairly high, but it's still quite top heavy.

Other contenders for actual symmetry are the Zephyr and the Minmatar Shuttle, but they both have prongs and protrusions that keeps them from being properly symmetrical. The Avatar might look like a good candidate face-on, but from the side, it rather looks like the poor mushroom is about to fall overGǪ

Also, the bloody Capsule is a good candidate ...