Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Mordred Shadow

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As I am trying to understand nullsec warfare could someone explain a few key points to me in regards to this matter?

Would most of the BoB armada be able to jump back fairly fast if under serious attack? Would they instead log in alt characters who are already in the Delve area? Would they jump clone back and hop in different ships?

If a large enemy alliance surprise BoB by arriving with very little notice, how fast could they take down a cyno jammer such as the one in NOL (understanding that this is not the front line anymore, but keeping it simple). Could damage be done to systems / sovereignty while BoB was unprepared?

As you see I have all the lingo of 0.0 warfare with very little understanding of it. CAOD has taught me a lot, but most of it has been meaningless banter.

Cheers,

Mordred

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Originally by: Mordred Shadow

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If a large enemy alliance surprise BoB by arriving with very little notice....
Cheers,

Mordred

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Fred0

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Originally by: NokNok

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They still ain't coming to save you

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon

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Originally by: NokNok

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They still ain't coming to save you

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They do not have to. I want to see what happens with Tri, when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.

It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.

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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon

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*snip*... when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.

It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.

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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon

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They do not have to. I want to see what happens with Tri, when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.
It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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* Is anyone defending BOB space now?

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Machine Delta

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The average RSF member isn't going to be fooled by sugarcoating a large, typical POS warfare campaign with some silly slogan or catchphrase. Hence, this sort of thing isn't likely, for us.

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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Originally by: Selk Cantor

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Originally by: Fred0

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Now that was pretty funny after being up all night. I guess its because your friends like you least for stealing all their isk to build Cutting Edge caps.

As for the original poster, its slow enough to take one heavilly pos'd system. It's not like you can just waltz into a region and take it overnight or even when all the pos's come out of reinforced. Even lightly defended or undefended (ref: MC circa 2008) take time and numbers.

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2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.

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Originally by: Minamel

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And i think up to now MM, Iron and Razor showed very clearly that they are not just carebears that disband after 2 Weeks of fighting and 20 losses. They defend with full force, they bring their big ships into battle, they hold ground aggainst the selfcalled Pvpelite of Eve with abbout even numbers on the battlefields.

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Originally by: Tifa Lionheart

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Instead they should do what BOB did and just steal the titan from one of their members.

Back to your old ways eh BOB, not content with gf and doing well ingame, have to come on to caod and smacktalk like you probably didnt get half your cap fleet from iceland anyway.

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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omw

SKUNK

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woot I wants a toy arbitrator !!! :O

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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HELP hulp Hilfe βοήθεια ajuda помощь ayuda

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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Originally by: Machine Delta

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The average RSF member isn't going to be fooled by sugarcoating a large, typical POS warfare campaign with some silly slogan or catchphrase. Hence, this sort of thing isn't likely, for us.

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Originally by: EnacheV2

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As many people already said it, nope, they aren't coming to save you.

As about why your dreams don't come true, look how much work GBC has to do against a mediocre coalition to get through their cyno jammed systems.

Do you think any sane alliance leader want to put BoB in the position of getting free kills as defender in their sov systems ?

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They never left VFK

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when we came their "full force" dissolved and we killed their Titan.

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Originally by: Ur235

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Edited by: Ur235 on 23/08/2008 11:04:37

Bob have got all there alts in Delve anyway

Its a well known fact that to be in BOB you have to have an alt of equal strength back in the "Motherland" while BOB's out blowing stuff up elsewhere

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Originally by: Minamel

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They never left VFK

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and they did right because you waited all the time for your chance to get in, as you did the as soon as the numbers dropped below yours.

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when we came their "full force" dissolved and we killed their Titan.

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Mighty you gz to that kill.
Is not like Bob never lost a titan but no need to blame a entinity for loosing one. As i read the battlereport it was 1 Titan defening and about 30-50 Ships? Not exactly what i would call full force.

I respect your alliance for commin with large numbers and reach a certain goal. But i have no respect for players who laugh abbout a opponent after every victory or a tactical failure of some others just cause they managed to bring their dread to a 100+ Capfleet and hit F1-F7 after lag becomes managable.

I would assume that Bob thought that they could reach much more in a full month of fighting with all they got and wanted to steamroll north aggain.
Now you see that Nc defends and that you loose Caps too if Capfleet meets @ equal numbers cause after all its just a Dps of Fleet A vs Dps of fleet B.
So i would like it to read some more "gf" and "respect for bringing it" and a bit less "you are just bad players but i am the elite"

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Originally by: Minamel

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They never left VFK

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and they did right because you waited all the time for your chance to get in, as you did the as soon as the numbers dropped below yours.

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when we came their "full force" dissolved and we killed their Titan.

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Mighty you gz to that kill.
Is not like Bob never lost a titan but no need to blame a entinity for loosing one. As i read the battlereport it was 1 Titan defening and about 30-50 Ships? Not exactly what i would call full force.

I respect your alliance for commin with large numbers and reach a certain goal. But i have no respect for players who laugh abbout a opponent after every victory or a tactical failure of some others just cause they managed to bring their dread to a 100+ Capfleet and hit F1-F7 after lag becomes managable.

I would assume that Bob thought that they could reach much more in a full month of fighting with all they got and wanted to steamroll north aggain.
Now you see that Nc defends and that you loose Caps too if Capfleet meets @ equal numbers cause after all its just a Dps of Fleet A vs Dps of fleet B.
So i would like it to read some more "gf" and "respect for bringing it" and a bit less "you are just bad players but i am the elite"

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Originally by: Minamel

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Quote:

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They never left VFK

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and they did right because you waited all the time for your chance to get in, as you did the as soon as the numbers dropped below yours.

Quote:

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when we came their "full force" dissolved and we killed their Titan.

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Mighty you gz to that kill.
Is not like Bob never lost a titan but no need to blame a entinity for loosing one. As i read the battlereport it was 1 Titan defening and about 30-50 Ships? Not exactly what i would call full force.

I respect your alliance for commin with large numbers and reach a certain goal. But i have no respect for players who laugh abbout a opponent after every victory or a tactical failure of some others just cause they managed to bring their dread to a 100+ Capfleet and hit F1-F7 after lag becomes managable.

I would assume that Bob thought that they could reach much more in a full month of fighting with all they got and wanted to steamroll north aggain.
Now you see that Nc defends and that you loose Caps too if Capfleet meets @ equal numbers cause after all its just a Dps of Fleet A vs Dps of fleet B.
So i would like it to read some more "gf" and "respect for bringing it" and a bit less "you are just bad players but i am the elite"

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Originally by: Minamel

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I respect your alliance for commin with large numbers and reach a certain goal. But i have no respect for players who laugh abbout a opponent after every victory or a tactical failure of some others just cause they managed to bring their dread to a 100+ Capfleet and hit F1-F7 after lag becomes managable.

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Tifa Lionheart

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Originally by: Selk Cantor

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Originally by: Fred0

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Now that was pretty funny after being up all night. I guess its because your friends like you least for stealing all their isk to build Cutting Edge caps.

As for the original poster, its slow enough to take one heavilly pos'd system. It's not like you can just waltz into a region and take it overnight or even when all the pos's come out of reinforced. Even lightly defended or undefended (ref: MC circa 2008) take time and numbers.

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Yes, how stupid of rzr to do this.

Instead they should do what BOB did and just steal the titan from one of their members.

Back to your old ways eh BOB, not content with gf and doing well ingame, have to come on to caod and smacktalk like you probably didnt get half your cap fleet from iceland anyway.

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Originally by: Xlost

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Edited by: Xlost on 23/08/2008 13:59:13
The OP might not be far off, -A- has invaded FAT/25S. We are currently working on fending them off. The real question is who wants to be on who's door step, when the bell rings. Who knows 49- might be next.

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Originally by: Piramon Rakesk

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* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

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Originally by: Angor

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Originally by: Fred0

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Do you not see the problem with this statement... the north is a carebear factory that must be closed

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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

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We could always pull a fix, surrender to them and become their pets, while letting them recruit every pvper worth a damn.

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Originally by: Mordred Shadow

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Would most of the BoB armada be able to jump back fairly fast if under serious attack? Would they instead log in alt characters who are already in the Delve area? Would they jump clone back and hop in different ships?

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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Originally by: papaPadla

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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This... FTW

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Originally by: Karbowiak

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Originally by: SirMolle

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We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

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You left behind the pink hat, the whip and a ceg ?..
Or is that aboard the flagship in the NC campaign?

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Originally by: Machine Delta

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The average RSF member isn't going to be fooled by sugarcoating a large, typical POS warfare campaign with some silly slogan or catchphrase. Hence, this sort of thing isn't likely, for us.

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Originally by: Emrod

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AAA and TCF shoot eachother like IAC.

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Originally by: Tonkin

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but nc must die though, the whole north united under one banner i mean wtf, 0.0 is a warzone not a blue fest.

the southern coalition is nearly dead due to well i dunno boredem nothing to shot.

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Originally by: LePrince

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Surely NC can handle BoB, why on earth NC would have half of the world NAPped if it ain't for doing something useful ?

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: LePrince

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Surely NC can handle BoB, why on earth NC would have half of the world NAPped if it ain't for doing something useful ?

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Wait, your in TCF.

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Originally by: LePrince

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Surely NC can handle BoB, why on earth NC would have half of the world NAPped if it ain't for doing something useful ?

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: LePrince

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Surely NC can handle BoB, why on earth NC would have half of the world NAPped if it ain't for doing something useful ?

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Wait, your in TCF.

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Originally by: Minamel

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And i think up to now MM, Iron and Razor showed very clearly that they are not just carebears that disband after 2 Weeks of fighting and 20 losses. They defend with full force, they bring their big ships into battle, they hold ground aggainst the selfcalled Pvpelite of Eve with abbout even numbers on the battlefields.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 23/08/2008 13:15:11

Originally by: Minamel

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They never left VFK

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and they did right because you waited all the time for your chance to get in, as you did the as soon as the numbers dropped below yours.

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when we came their "full force" dissolved and we killed their Titan.

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Mighty you gz to that kill.
Is not like Bob never lost a titan but no need to blame a entinity for loosing one. As i read the battlereport it was 1 Titan defening and about 30-50 Ships? Not exactly what i would call full force.

I respect your alliance for commin with large numbers and reach a certain goal. But i have no respect for players who laugh abbout a opponent after every victory or a tactical failure of some others just cause they managed to bring their dread to a 100+ Capfleet and hit F1-F7 after lag becomes managable.

I would assume that Bob thought that they could reach much more in a full month of fighting with all they got and wanted to steamroll north aggain.
Now you see that Nc defends and that you loose Caps too if Capfleet meets @ equal numbers cause after all its just a Dps of Fleet A vs Dps of fleet B.
So i would like it to read some more "gf" and "respect for bringing it" and a bit less "you are just bad players but i am the elite"

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NC are being laughed at and will continue to be laughed at because currently, they are the biggist joke this game has ever seen.

Even the blind could see more clearly the NC tactical problem of "sticking head in sand" defence. I said it a while ago, but no alliance in the history of eve has ever won a war by 100% defensive reaction.

NC's master battleplan of just letting their lands get overrun, somehow hoping that this would win wars without counter-attacking hostile space. I guess the most incompetents could not plan this such as well. I mean, even ASCN pos sitting was done in hostile systems!

If you play chess and are too afraid to risk pawns, then of course people are going to laugh at you.

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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i thought the biggest joke ingame is actualy max.. you know.. this "EPIC" Op full of lag and the prove that BOB where not be able to attack NC bby it's own, only with the help of over 7000 other players from other alliance and the fact that BOB's blue list is atm the moment the longest in complete eve.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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i thought the biggest joke ingame is actualy max.. you know.. this "EPIC" Op full of lag and the prove that BOB where not be able to attack NC bby it's own, only with the help of over 7000 other players from other alliance and the fact that BOB's blue list is atm the moment the longest in complete eve.

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/me points and laughs > Look how stupid you are?

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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And about doing something useful, Is what MAX is about? Forum chest-beating, flapping your oversized ego with One-liner?

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Oh the irony.

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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not even so mutch how bob forum jockey ;D points you

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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not even so mutch how bob forum jockey ;D points you

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Do you fly a cloaked raven?

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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did you look now at your bluelist and got hited deep? ;D

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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did you look now at your bluelist and got hited deep? ;D

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No you can't join our company, I don't care how good you are at pvp.

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Originally by: Angor

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Do you not see the problem with this statement... the north is a carebear factory that must be closed

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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wow you realy deep hurted by your own bluelist ahaha ;D and boy i woulf never join a corp with the longest naplist in complete eve.
i mean.. hey each time on yout ts / alli forum / corpchat / allichat / gbcops channel and on this forum you laught about "north naps all" and that with your own naplist that is nearly 2/3 longer than theirs ;D you guys make a joke of your self ;D

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Originally by: Orange Species

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It's ok we won't violence your boats

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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wow you realy deep hurted by your own bluelist ahaha ;D and boy i woulf never join a corp with the longest naplist in complete eve.
i mean.. hey each time on yout ts / alli forum / corpchat / allichat / gbcops channel and on this forum you laught about "north naps all" and that with your own naplist that is nearly 2/3 longer than theirs ;D you guys make a joke of your self ;D

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It's ok we won't violence your boats

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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sorry but you must realy realize the reality your the one alliance that have the biggest bluelist in complete eve ;D and you convert from a cool midsize pvp alliance in a thing like ascn, slow, fat biggest naplist ingame and just be able to fight with blobsupport.

but you realy shouldn't use again some pharses like "napnorth" with your giant naplist

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Oh the irony.

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Oh the irony.

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Yeah, we have some friends but guess what it is a drop on the pond compared to your GBC sekrit NAP list of doom.

You and your legion of GBC warriors are no heroes!

Stop sponfeeding us lies, you have the numbers on your side, always did or you wouldn't be on the offensive. You did this during your FA, ASCN and numerous other campaigns. Humiliating your opponents with" Look nubblet, they are soo many of you losing against so little of us".
Dont' compare miners and industrialists with multi accounts and pvpers.

NC is just another version of ASCN, the minutes you sailed off from Castle Delve, with your TRI friends you knew the outcome of the war...

Your plan is well crafted & executed but don't go parading like you won a fight against overwhelming odds.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Oh the irony.

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Yeah, we have some friends but guess what it is a drop on the pond compared to your GBC sekrit NAP list of doom.

You and your legion of GBC warriors are no heroes!

Stop sponfeeding us lies, you have the numbers on your side, always did or you wouldn't be on the offensive. You did this during your FA, ASCN and numerous other campaigns. Humiliating your opponents with" Look nubblet, they are soo many of you losing against so little of us".
Dont' compare miners and industrialists with multi accounts and pvpers.

NC is just another version of ASCN, the minutes you sailed off from Castle Delve, with your TRI friends you knew the outcome of the war...

Your plan is well crafted & executed but don't go parading like you won a fight against overwhelming odds.

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Obviously, given that they lost almost 30k blues since this time last year and are loosing lots of members every week. I think razor & co are down to around 20k blues on thier standings list now, sooner or later will shrink massivly to match us as people leave NC to mine in high sec. Could take a while to hit 4 digits, but who knows.

Funny thing though, I gave up counting the number of times your alliance ran, logged off, docked up or sat at a pos when you had superior numbers. Unless we were outnumbered at 3-1 odds, we could almost never get you guys to engage!

I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight. And you guys tend to share the same problem - fear of risking assets. I guess its Pot calling kettle Black.

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Originally by: Touched darkness

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Edited by: Touched darkness on 24/08/2008 15:57:03

Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Haha

Your list of friends/blues is considerably larger than ours.

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Oh the irony.

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Yeah, we have some friends but guess what it is a drop on the pond compared to your GBC sekrit NAP list of doom.

You and your legion of GBC warriors are no heroes!

Stop sponfeeding us lies, you have the numbers on your side, always did or you wouldn't be on the offensive. You did this during your FA, ASCN and numerous other campaigns. Humiliating your opponents with" Look nubblet, they are soo many of you losing against so little of us".
Dont' compare miners and industrialists with multi accounts and pvpers.

NC is just another version of ASCN, the minutes you sailed off from Castle Delve, with your TRI friends you knew the outcome of the war...

Your plan is well crafted & executed but don't go parading like you won a fight against overwhelming odds.

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Obviously, given that they lost almost 30k blues since this time last year and are loosing lots of members every week. I think razor & co are down to around 20k blues on thier standings list now, sooner or later will shrink massivly to match us as people leave NC to mine in high sec. Could take a while to hit 4 digits, but who knows.

Funny thing though, I gave up counting the number of times your alliance ran, logged off, docked up or sat at a pos when you had superior numbers. Unless we were outnumbered at 3-1 odds, we could almost never get you guys to engage!

I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight. And you guys tend to share the same problem - fear of risking assets. I guess its Pot calling kettle Black.

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In my recent analysis of NC number growth it is clearly indicated that at the end of year 2005 A.C NC had only around 120K(that is 120,000,000 mind you) of blues.
However during the years numbers dramatically increased and as it is clearly shown in my data sheets at the end of year 2007 NC had aprox 1 mil (1,000,000,000 for ya)ppl on its blue list with slight signs of dropping on the date of 30.12.2007 when NC lost around 200k of members.

It is very easy to assume why did NC loose so many members at this date,but i shall leave it to your own imagination.
In the year of 2008 growth of NC blue list picked up again rapidly and on the date of 24.08. it stands at the number of 2,3mil(2,300,000,000 for ya) members with additional 1,3mil (1,300,000,000, for ya) estimated to join in next 3 months.

Accoridng to Lord WarATron,respectable member of BoB alliance
,which is member of GBC powerblock ,NC has got a long way to go to reach GBC heights,as on annual BBQ in Sweden New York Times reported aprox. 62 mil(62,000,000,000) members eating Sir Molles sausages.
(my main focus was on researching of NC numbers growth,please keep that in mind when you take this numbers about GBC into your own calculations)

Clearly NC is showing a lot of promise and it will "get there" eventually.

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Originally by: Touched darkness

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Obviously, given that they lost almost 30k blues since this time last year and are loosing lots of members every week. I think razor & co are down to around 20k blues on thier standings list now, sooner or later will shrink massivly to match us as people leave NC to mine in high sec. Could take a while to hit 4 digits, but who knows.

Funny thing though, I gave up counting the number of times your alliance ran, logged off, docked up or sat at a pos when you had superior numbers. Unless we were outnumbered at 3-1 odds, we could almost never get you guys to engage!

I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight. And you guys tend to share the same problem - fear of risking assets. I guess its Pot calling kettle Black.

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Originally by: Parasite S

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Originally by: Touched darkness

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Obviously, given that they lost almost 30k blues since this time last year and are loosing lots of members every week. I think razor & co are down to around 20k blues on thier standings list now, sooner or later will shrink massivly to match us as people leave NC to mine in high sec. Could take a while to hit 4 digits, but who knows.

Funny thing though, I gave up counting the number of times your alliance ran, logged off, docked up or sat at a pos when you had superior numbers. Unless we were outnumbered at 3-1 odds, we could almost never get you guys to engage!

I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight. And you guys tend to share the same problem - fear of risking assets. I guess its Pot calling kettle Black.

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In my recent analysis of NC number growth it is clearly indicated that at the end of year 2005 A.C NC had only around 120K(that is 120,000,000 mind you) of blues.
However during the years numbers dramatically increased and as it is clearly shown in my data sheets at the end of year 2007 NC had aprox 1 mil (1,000,000,000 for ya)ppl on its blue list with slight signs of dropping on the date of 30.12.2007 when NC lost around 200k of members.

It is very easy to assume why did NC loose so many members at this date,but i shall leave it to your own imagination.
In the year of 2008 growth of NC blue list picked up again rapidly and on the date of 24.08. it stands at the number of 2,3mil(2,300,000,000 for ya) members with additional 1,3mil (1,300,000,000, for ya) estimated to join in next 3 months.

Accoridng to Lord WarATron,respectable member of BoB alliance
,which is member of GBC powerblock ,NC has got a long way to go to reach GBC heights,as on annual BBQ in Sweden New York Times reported aprox. 62 mil(62,000,000,000) members eating Sir Molles sausages.
(my main focus was on researching of NC numbers growth,please keep that in mind when you take this numbers about GBC into your own calculations)

Clearly NC is showing a lot of promise and it will "get there" eventually.

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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ah.. we all just know that BOB is the entinity in eve with the most blues and the longest naplist, gbc is just one naporama because bob is not strong enough to hold it's space by its own

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Originally by: Over There

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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ah.. we all just know that BOB is the entinity in eve with the most blues and the longest naplist, gbc is just one naporama because bob is not strong enough to hold it's space by its own

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QFT; the things bob's always been known for from the days of Cookies, Cake and Pie to now, have been having the biggest naplist in eve, only fighting when they outnumber the enemy 3-1 and generally being cowards hiding behind allies holed up in one little area and never venturing out due to crippling incompetence and a chronic inability to do anything themselves.

Damn nap-monkies.



Enough sarcasm for you?

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Originally by: In General

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Sexy sig there Molle and my apologies if this has been pointed out to you before and realising english isn't your first language, but its '...better than you', not '....better then you' mate.

PS Keep up the good work fella.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.

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How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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did you look now at your bluelist and got hited deep? ;D

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No you can't join our company, I don't care how good you are at pvp.

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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH

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ah.. we all just know that BOB is the entinity in eve with the most blues and the longest naplist, gbc is just one naporama because bob is not strong enough to hold it's space by its own

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight.

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Originally by: Parasite S

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woooot? molle feeded 62m people with bread and 2 fish... erm i mean sausages?

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Originally by: gaaksel

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Please come attack delve, we have so many ships stored there the station hangers are getting full .

Eagerly waiting ....

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Whatever, right now, in practical terms, TCF is allied with GS. Also RA, but we rarely see them, and there's been no common op since Delve. UNL is napped, but not really an active member of the RSF, and they didn't pull their weight since quite a time. And that's about it. The rest of the nap list are just renters. If you cound only the members of alliances with some amount of military muscle, the GBC list is easily twice or thrice longer.


In a way, I feel sorry for you, Bob. You've grown so big that you now need to travel all the map to get someone to fight you, and POS warfare suck. We, on the other hand, have a healthy supply of reds without traveling more than 15 jumps.

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Originally by: TWD

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Edited by: TWD on 25/08/2008 09:25:02

Originally by: Shadowsword

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Whatever, right now, in practical terms, TCF is allied with GS. Also RA, but we rarely see them, and there's been no common op since Delve. UNL is napped, but not really an active member of the RSF, and they didn't pull their weight since quite a time. And that's about it. The rest of the nap list are just renters. If you cound only the members of alliances with some amount of military muscle, the GBC list is easily twice or thrice longer.


In a way, I feel sorry for you, Bob. You've grown so big that you now need to travel all the map to get someone to fight you, and POS warfare suck. We, on the other hand, have a healthy supply of reds without traveling more than 15 jumps.

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So uh do you have any numbers to back this up because you do know that Goonswarm alone for example has as many people as 2/3rd of the people on our blue list combined?

Actually, mister tcf, you post your complete blue list here and I'll give you the number of blues on both sides.

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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 25/08/2008 09:59:57
No TWD, it used to be true a long time ago but your allies have gone on a recruiting spree since then. Not to forget that while alliances in the RSF often work alone, the GBC looks more like a rock tour with the band on stage (bob) and thousands of groupies eager to suck the singer (pets)- everywhere they go.


edit: I like this rock band analogy heh

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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 25/08/2008 10:06:43
Let me introduce you, the Greater Goon...

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Originally by: Doddy

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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 25/08/2008 10:06:43
Let me introduce you, the Greater Goon...

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If they are good at giving head why are you all so desperate to get rid of them?

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Originally by: hired goon

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Hey guys, I'm from the popular thread committee, just here to tell you this is a pretty cool thread.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Edited by: Shadowsword on 25/08/2008 08:15:13

Originally by: Lord WarATron

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I would not call NC a ASCN, ASCN at least made a attempt to take over hostile systems.To be perfectly honest, I do not understand why TCF would slag off NC, I mean, both you guys had a record minimum 30-40k+ bluelist over the past year, and had blue up just about anybody to avoid a fight.

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Isn't that what you wanted? To have most of the galaxy fighting you? opponents temporarily bluing each other when fighting a common enemy shouldn't be a surprise then.

AAA also napped the NC and RSF blocs back then. Would you also imply they're cowards?

Whatever, right now, in practical terms, TCF is allied with GS. Also RA, but we rarely see them, and there's been no common op since Delve. UNL is napped, but not really an active member of the RSF, and they didn't pull their weight since quite a time. And that's about it. The rest of the nap list are just renters. If you cound only the members of alliances with some amount of military muscle, the GBC list is easily twice or thrice longer.


In a way, I feel sorry for you, Bob. You've grown so big that you now need to travel all the map to get someone to fight you, and POS warfare suck. We, on the other hand, have a healthy supply of reds without traveling more than 15 jumps.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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I mean, what would you call them? Heroes?

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 25/08/2008 20:22:59

Originally by: Lord WarATron

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I mean, what would you call them? Heroes?

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Its all subjective really. One would have to start by defining an alliance and attendant napfest who only seriously engage when they are confident of victory. Or describing players who want to BE in the strongest alliance in the game or ride on their coattails, rather than oppose them. Whatever they are, its a hell of a lot 'braver' than BOB and the GBC.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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Get Chribba to publically denounce Veldspar, then we can start discussing winning EVE...

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 25/08/2008 20:22:59

Originally by: Lord WarATron

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I mean, what would you call them? Heroes?

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Its all subjective really. One would have to start by defining an alliance and attendant napfest who only seriously engage when they are confident of victory. Or describing players who want to BE in the strongest alliance in the game or ride on their coattails, rather than oppose them. Whatever they are, its a hell of a lot 'braver' than BOB and the GBC.

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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn

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I win.

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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I'm gay.

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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I'm gay.

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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maybe AAA are waiting for a bribe i'm sure NC could afford a couple of titans to pay for a little distraction in Delve to keep BoB jump cloning back and forth

seriously tho, i think people are enjoying the show, plus it's kindof a bother moving capitals that far, let alone enough capitals to pose a threat to the hardware BoB is likely to have in reserve, if NC wants a distraction they'll probably have to pay for one, and probably should.

as for goons, since theadj left for snigg i'd be surprised if there was anyone left in NC they actually like ;d

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Its quite funny really mr TCF. I lost count of the number of time TCF with superior forces ran, logged off, refused to defend and so on over the past year. It does not make us sad, it makes us laugh!

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Originally by: Norwood Franskly

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Its quite funny really mr TCF. I lost count of the number of time TCF with superior forces ran, logged off, refused to defend and so on over the past year. It does not make us sad, it makes us laugh!

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I think your being deliberately obtuse, when my corp used to rent space in Wicked Creek (TCF space) I personally witnessed gangs of BOB and GBC pilots log off or run away to avoid fights so I don't really think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to accusing people of being cowardly, because even your so great alliance is not above doing it. I know if I was silly enough to let my HAC gang get chased into a dead end system and let the gate out get bubbled I'd probably log out too, after all wheres the fun in a fight if it's not zero risk for me.

If your content to play the role of belligerent bully then good for you but you know what they say about casting the first stone...

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Originally by: Emrod

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Oh and like the fact he never metionned Goonswarm, finally one of the few in COAD who is be truly inform about that the fact we are disband since 1 week ago.


true story.

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