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Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.25 21:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Etho Demerzel Originally by: Bronson Hughes Information without understand makes for a dangerous combination. What EFT does is provide people with a lot of information about ships and fits without providing the understanding necessary to put it to good use. When used for its intended purpose, EFT is a good all around tool, but when people who don't understand game mechanics use EFT to justify endless whines, it's easy to see why some people come down on EFT. It's not EFT's fault mind you, it's human nature. And nowhere did Derek say that we would be better off without EFT, only that it's providing fuel to some of the endless whines we see. Yes, because YOU know so much better than anyone else that YOUR interpretation and understandment of this information is the correct one while all others are just wrong. Could you please be a bit more arrogant? I won't have people preaching "ignorance is good" in front of me. We are not in the dark ages anymore for at least 500 years. I completely agree, which is rare with me and Etho. Just because some people interpret information incorrectly, or in a way you disagree with, does not mean the information is bad. That's just ignorant. There will always be stupid people, and always intelligent people who just see things differently than you do. It's up to you to figure out what you believe, who you disagree with, and who's just an idiot. If you disagree with someone though, don't blame the source of information, just make your point and move on.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:05:00 - [32] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kendrix Arathan i+ro+ny1 –noun, plural -nies. 1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. No, no it isnt Heh, I'm so glad someone finally did this. You see, I knew that it didn't fit the typical definition of irony. It referenced the song by the same name (and hence, why the title is in quotes). -Liang The most ironic thing about the song, ironic is that she didn't know what irony was. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:07:00 - [33] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kendrix Arathan i+ro+ny1 –noun, plural -nies. 1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. No, no it isnt Heh, I'm so glad someone finally did this. You see, I knew that it didn't fit the typical definition of irony. It referenced the song by the same name (and hence, why the title is in quotes). -Liang The most ironic thing about the song, ironic is that she didn't know what irony was.
Lynal Gallente A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:08:00 - [34] Originally by: Liang Nuren It's just not really what I'd expect... Nanos are still the problem that they were. People are still running around in 10km/s vagabonds, yet we hear nothing about it. Not a peep... really makes me wonder just how much of an issue it really was to start with. And BTW, I very very rarely start threads. :) -Liang its just that people have accepted that its going to happen and have already started to figure out what they're going to do in this brave new world that is approaching. in short, people see the writing on the wall, and instead of ***ing, theyre training the next fotm. Originally by:** Daeva Vios It's fair when the larger force is on my side. It's lame when the larger force is on their side. How have people not figured this out yet?
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:09:00 - [35] Originally by: James Lyrus The most ironic thing about the song, ironic is that she didn't know what irony was. I know, it's what made me pick the title. ;-) -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:11:00 - [36] Originally by: Lynal its just that people have accepted that its going to happen and have already started to figure out what they're going to do in this brave new world that is approaching. in short, people see the writing on the wall, and instead of *****ing, theyre training the next fotm. Eh, I've accepted that there was going to be a nano nerf since it was announced at the last alliance tourney. I guess that's one of the reasons I trained BS5 on all of my characters. -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
MrTits	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:13:00 - [37] You read newscientist?
Barsexual Castle Greyskull	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Etho Demerzel Yes, because YOU know so much better than anyone else that YOUR interpretation and understandment of this information is the correct one while all others are just wrong. Could you please be a bit more arrogant? I won't have people preaching "ignorance is good" in front of me. We are not in the dark ages anymore for at least 500 years. Understandment isn't word sorry try again.
Arcadrell	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:24:00 - [39] Edited by: Arcadrell on 25/08/2008 22:24:01 Originally by: Salvar Ar'adim ...don't you think ... its like raaaain.. on your wedding day, its a free ride.. when youve already payed, its the good advice that just you just didnt take, and who would have though it figours. mr. play it safe was afriad to fly, he packed his suitcase and kiss his kids goodbye~ei, he waited his hold damn life to catch that flight and plan crashed down he though well isnt this nice. and isnt it ironic... dont you think?
Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Barsexual Originally by: Etho Demerzel Yes, because YOU know so much better than anyone else that YOUR interpretation and understandment of this information is the correct one while all others are just wrong. Could you please be a bit more arrogant? I won't have people preaching "ignorance is good" in front of me. We are not in the dark ages anymore for at least 500 years. Understandment isn't word sorry try again. Grammar **** alert! Because internet forumz are sirius business.

Amandin Adouin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Boz Well Because internet space forumz are sirius business. I... couldn't resist. (yes, yes I'm a dork)
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.26 03:56:00 - [42] Originally by: Merin Ryskin It's not ironic at all. CCP have recognized the issue and promised a solution. It's kind of pointless to keep posting about how broken nano ships are when a nerf is already on the way. Posting complaints now would just be posting for the sake of posting. Sorry Liang but he's just right. *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.26 04:04:00 - [43] Originally by: Merin Ryskin It's not ironic at all. CCP have recognized the issue and promised a horrible, poorly thought-out solution. It's kind of pointless to keep posting about how broken nano ships are when a sledgehammer nerf is already on the way. Posting complaints now would just be posting for the sake of posting, since the odds of CCP doing anything reasonable about nano's are slim to none. Fixed.
Myra2007 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.26 04:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Boz Well Originally by: Merin Ryskin It's not ironic at all. CCP have recognized the issue and promised a horrible, poorly thought-out solution. It's kind of pointless to keep posting about how broken nano ships are when a sledgehammer nerf is already on the way. Posting complaints now would just be posting for the sake of posting, since the odds of CCP doing anything reasonable about nano's are slim to none. Fixed. This! So very very much. Exactly my feelings. I am exhausted and disappointed with ccp. Testing has been largely ignored, new "soon" dev blog still not in sight, patch postponed, no one talking to us about the huge problems for say blaster/ac ships or many other things that apparently are considered "collateral damage" when it comes to nerfing speed. Why even bother to talk to ccp? Anyway i am waiting for the day all those whiners realize how badly this patch breaks most of their toys. Best thing i've read was something along the lines of "serves you right nano***s - finally i can get my megathron out again". Oh, i'll be laughing when the same person cries about not hitting shit 2 months from now. It'll be a little consolation though. The way things go now we could as well have stab wounds balancing the game.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.26 04:40:00 - [45] Originally by: Boz Well Originally by: Merin Ryskin It's not ironic at all. CCP have recognized the issue and promised a horrible, poorly thought-out solution. It's kind of pointless to keep posting about how broken nano ships are when a sledgehammer nerf is already on the way. Posting complaints now would just be posting for the sake of posting, since the odds of CCP doing anything reasonable about nano's are slim to none. Fixed. This is true... the nerf is massive overkill. But my point is either way, you won't be dealing with 10km/s nano HACs anymore, so there's no point in whining about them. Either CCP will nerf them with the sledgehammer, or CCP will nerf them in some other way. Now, whining about how poorly thought out this nerf is, that's a valid topic for posting... I'm just waiting to see the revised changes/dev blog to find out if they're going to listen to the first several hundred pages of feedback before posting any more complaints.


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