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jj74
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Shosoru
jj74
This character is interesting , BS V, BC V, Exumers V, Frighter V Oo and he was supposed to be a interdicter pilot LOL. You cant really pilot BS or BC at all nor can you use drones but you can mine ... This character is a difficult one. He is somehow cool but then again has many skills that have no true use yet. And his learnings are low. Id say 6.75+ | start 6.64 | b/o 7.4 or offers
Your freighter skills are worth allot.
[u]Kutul
Capital Ship Construction V -nice , Exumers V, frighetr 4 good industry stuff.
If you hve the time to sell him expensive (buy those skills you should sell him over time for much)
start 6.4 | res 6.8+ | b/o 7.2 or offers
otherwise a little (tiny) bit less
yeah JJ was orginally trained to be a pure pvp character, then i discovered the carebear in me, but continued to train pvp orientated stuff to pick up later, just it is easier for me to sell and buy a proper pvp toon than it is now to train due to having to start from scratch ( apart from ships that is )
I used Kutul for cap building, but bored of it now so no need for him.
Thanks again for the insight into costing, need to have a think as if I can get what you stating, I should be able to get a nice little pvp toon  |
Allard Blackheart
Gallente
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Allard Blackheart on 04/09/2008 14:17:59
Originally by: Shosoru
Allard Blackheart
"only been podded 2 times in pvp" whats your secret ? I've been poded twice this month one in high and one in lowsec buy smartymegas ^^. Sentry Drone Interfacing V is a bit odd but not useless. Kronos is not necessary for a pirate character. If you get your sec up it can be nice tho. Weight, i just noticed your mechanics suck, skill them they need 400k sp more. Repair Systems V compensations IV command ship V is nice -you have no socials for that but the ship is nice enough. if you skill them mechanics Start 6 | res. 6.15-6.2 | b/o 6.5+
A very good pvp character if you ask me. I thought i have seen him once in an auction not a week ago but i cant find it so it might was another character with similar skills. if you can't sell him (not likely) convo me i might have a trade
simple i have my pod warp out planed wen i hit hull and spawm the warp button (didnt work in 0.0 vs that smart bomb phoon where i lost me first stilleto or wen i laged out real bad in oijan wen i lost me sniping mega to neutrals/war targets after poping a scorp insta popping a hound) sentrys lvl 5 means t2 sentry drones for ratting and missions they are a god send in a domi (afk missions anyone?:P) and very VERY nice in an ishtar gate camping also nice for carriers having an extra 25% dps from ur drones is nice i suppose
yeah my mech does suck abit ill prolly work on them after kronos can u do me a price for wen i have the kronos skills and dread/carrier skills?
also trade? for wat? lol if i was gonna trade/sell the next char i would get would prolly be amarr/caldari cross train (amarr main caldari cross for raven/missiles for some t2 amarr ships)
edit adding my KB page Allards KB
also this char was in the MDK poor mans titan vs bruce (the smart bombing fleet :))
u saw me buying my new alt thats training freighter V atm |
Koroz
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:20:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Shosoru
Koroz
Too cross skilled. 2.4 | start 2.4 | b/o 2.7 or offer
Hi Shosoru,
Curious what you mean by cross skilled. I was under the impression that it meant skilled in too many different things. I am focused on med auto cannons, drones for damage in a rapier and vaga which are the only real ships he can fly worth noting.
Does this mean I trained too "little" in too many support skills and Im missing the meaning? Thanks!
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Jim's Bro
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:35:00 -
[94]
Hi,
I have this char that I am thinking about selling, what price could I expect?
Nice guide btw :-)
Tol'Chuk |
Shootem Dead
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:45:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Shootem Dead on 04/09/2008 16:48:51
Hi there. First off, a great guide.
I'm gonna take a different aproach than most of the guys wanting a PC in here, and I actually used your guide trying to figure out a value myself:)
http://ineve.net/skills/character.php?charID=NTk0MTM4OTIx
(I know there are some cap support skills, but no capital ship skills. I havn't gotten around to buy and train them yet)
The price I came up with is ~9,1B. Is that far from the truth or somewhat close?
In advance thanks:)
(btw, sending you a bit of iskies for your troubles later tonight, seeing as you loose gametime pc'ing all these chars and I'm no better myself:P ) |
Reaper ICU
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:24:00 -
[96]
http://www.newforms.nl/eve/skills/Reaper_ICU how much for this toon?
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Reaper ICU
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:25:00 -
[97]
http://www.newforms.nl/eve/skills/Reaper_ICU
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Reaper ICU
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:34:00 -
[98]
http://ineve.net/skills/character.php?charID=MTI2MDQyNzI4 sorry see if this works
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Idealdeath
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:48:00 -
[99]
http://isk.nu/1C4 what could i get for this toon and thanks for taking the time to do this in advance.
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Ora Marva
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:02:00 -
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Good guide, but i think your pricing is way off. While 200m/1m is a good starting point every auction i've been involved with (4 or 5 now, both buying and selling) has ended in a buyout which has been *much* higher than that price ratio. In every single case they start off with low ball bids from resellers often quoting the magical 200m per 1m as if it's law, and then end with a serious bidder who comes out of no where and offers the buy out.
In my experience 200m per 1m is the goal of resellers who just tend to be the most vocal posters. I know i've never bought or sold anywhere close to as low as 200m per 1m.
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Tato Souhan
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:14:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=863317
need evaluating on this
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Kenjiskan
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:49:00 -
[102]
Hi,
I would like know how much for this one : Shimone
A knowledge want to sell it, could you make an appraisal ?
thanks
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T2 Jocke
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:00:00 -
[103]
Great guide. Although I could use some help deciding a price for this character.
He has 15mil SP and he is a Miner/Hauler.
Skills
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.04 22:51:00 -
[104]
My internet is not working Oo dam it , i'm at an internet cafT so i can only go into the most importent things atm.
1. Koroz im very sorry, thx that you pointed out my mistake. Your character is not cross skilled i just copy pasted the wrong sentence out or my spelling help tool. Your character just doesn't have anything special yet. There are more "useful" 12m sp characters. his price is about a bit over 2.4 the prices are correct.
2.Shootem Dead YES IT Worked! /me happy . You are pretty close and you have 2 implants per clone - wise ,very wise. However i see your straightforwardness and your mission skills a bit more then you have but you are close to a good start bid. I wont make it public without your permission- thats the power of isk ^^
3.The Isk Question. Many asked me why i don't char nice shiny isk for my time. Let me settle this, i am a capitalist but i cant charge fore my opinion, it might not be liked buy the customer and furthermore i don't want to make the customer happy buy telling him that he is skilled good and worth allot so he pays me better - i'm not like that. I want to say that something sucks and tell my honest opinion , sometimes i just don't know how much a character is worth. Thats very difficult with 60+m sp characters, i only know some builds average prices. There are not so many soled and i can't charge for not knowing can i. And lastly .... i'd make more isk mining, honestly it can take a while, if i consider this my business i'd be making bad isk/effort XD so i don't. I very appreciate donations and those how pay what they think is right in case of me having helped them - thats like positive feedback. If someone wants my opinion via eve mail i do that too but for that i expect getting whatever thT thinks my mail is worth. Thats because if everyone requested mails my thread has less use as reference to others but i understand why some want it mailed, telling sails strategies can be negative when selling a specialized character for thT's few customers could see my opinion and try to squeeze the b/o down. bottom line: Its Free.
[thT=a random person selling a character]
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Koroz
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.04 23:52:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Shosoru
Edited by: Shosoru on 04/09/2008 23:01:26
1. Koroz im very sorry, thx that you pointed out my mistake. Your character is not cross skilled i just copy pasted the wrong sentence out or my spelling help tool. Your character just doesn't have anything special yet. There are more "useful" 12m sp characters. His price is about a bit over 2.4 the prices are correct.
No problem, I appreciate the feedback. I was just wanting to make sure so I could fix the problems he might have. Thanks again for your time at looking at him.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.05 00:26:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Shosoru on 05/09/2008 00:26:13
Ora Marva The isk comes with the b/o offers , its all about how to make a b/o so that the offers are good. What happens when you start bid is to high or to low or your b/o is to high - pplz will start making bids below your start bid or small b/o, and don't forget the ratio for the skills is at 2-2.25 (i mostly tend to be over 2.2 only buy useless skills or heavy cross it gos down to 2) that douse not include standings assets (now it will include cap skills but it hasn't real before) so you see its just the layout of the skills and if a character has exceptional good skills or very many sp those "usual average" rules do not apply that way. b/o prices are mostly in the 2.5-2.8 regions but that can go up or down depending on the sails strategy and the time reasonable to invest for the sail of a individual character. And pleas not i have no profit of this and i have no secret alt that makes profit of this etc.
One more tip to all sellers. You mustn't except b/o immediately , it is often wise to wait a day before replying.
I have to update the guide tomorrow a few things have come to my mined that need to be added. the guide as intended for not so high skilled characters to keep it more simple but it appears to me it is needed to make it to a guide for all sp. I will compose a reference link section as soon as i fined the time.
Ora MarvaThis thread is also for discussion and it is not the shosorus pc thread but a pc and discussion thread of all and posts as yours are appreciated. Goal is to get light into the dark, and character bazaar is very dark.
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Darkstride
Black Serpent Technologies
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:27:00 -
[107]
I've got another one to look at. Hope you dont mind.
Linkage
Don't walk into the light yet, we still need you. |
Morgana666
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:25:00 -
[108]
up |
Jali Prince
Minmatar
JellyBeans
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:58:00 -
[109]
Linkage
An opinion on this lady would be appreciated. NB Its a RL woman owner, and its very all over the place, anything that may help her would be really good, as direction is all over the shop,
can you tell?
Dark Entropy What's your poison?
Life is chocolate |
Surah
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Posted - 2008.09.05 20:56:00 -
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Good guide, very good service and definitely needed in the character forum. If anyone objects to the way the prices are calulated, they don't have to request a price check. As Shosoru has stated, he will do these via eve-mail (where possible).
It's not just a pc check for sellers, it's useful for buyers who may be blinded by number of skillpoints or skils... which are actually useless unless properly trained.
Good luck with the guide; donation on its way.
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Jaeith Fallswith
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Posted - 2008.09.05 21:03:00 -
[111]
Can you Check This Toon out when you have Time Plzz . Linkage
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BlackMail
Caldari
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.05 23:26:00 -
[112]
Edited by: BlackMail on 05/09/2008 23:27:13
195th Shaft
Looking at possibly selling this character
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Blackmail
Eve Defence Force
All Around Good Guy
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.06 15:07:00 -
[113]
Ok I can now go threw all your characters , i have to cut down my comments a bit cos the work has piled up 12charac -.- this can take a while.
Xing Tu
Interesting and seldom encrypter however the request of such a character is not to big atm, and your learnings are to low, that really hurts. He's more the type of character you put on an account with an other character and don't train him. start 2.4 | b/o 3 or offer | res 2.55
Jin-Mei
Try getting Drone Interfacing to IV, and the armor compensations to IV (they take 6days) atm he is
start 3 | b/o 3.6 | res 3.25
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WTB: Minmatar X-Type Duck-Tape |
Kenjiskan
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Posted - 2008.09.06 16:10:00 -
[114]
thanks for your reply...
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T2 Jocke
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Posted - 2008.09.06 16:12:00 -
[115]
Awsome work Shosoru, Thanks for your help
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Almighty bum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 16:49:00 -
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May be looking to flog my pvp char. Please gimme a good price check =) Woop!
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Jaeith Fallswith
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Posted - 2008.09.06 17:42:00 -
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Thank you for your time an eve mail thank you was sent 
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Tetraalo
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:01:00 -
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Humm I wounder what I could be worth not wanting to sell of course Just got her not to long ago and Love her shes awesome well to me anyway lol Linkage And ya I have some work on her to do yet but getting there
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:27:00 -
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Thank you Jaeith Fallswith for your donation.
Jetcast
Looks purity good for 12.5m sp but 394,651 learnings !!!!!! not good at all.
And your attributes are not all to good chosen.
skill books about 100m start 2.8 | res no res/hidden | b/o offers or start 2.8 | res 2.9ish b/o 3.2ish.
you have command ship with those little sp but those learnings hit hard and command ship atm can only be good to command squads not so good as a ship tbh and your leadership skills are still low. as a hac you can do quite good
Tetraalo
the stats are odd , the memory is not so important after you have most skills regarding memory, a point less mem and one tow more int would be nicer . Drone interfacing 3 -.- if you want to mine you should skill that to IV asap.
skill books 1.1 id say shes about 10-11b depending on standings can be worth a bit less.
PS you bot 2 charas @ 600m isk each ^^ lucky thats not even worth the 20Ç transfer fee
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5n4keyes
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:58:00 -
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Well.. ive always wondered how much im worth, so please, enlighten me
5n4keyes
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