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Damion Rayne Dark-Rising 22	Posted - 2012.03.24 12:39:00 - [1] - Quote The fixes to the War Dev system are really quite good, as I've been watching the fan fest feed. But what I'm lost on, is why in the blazes does CCP still ignore the fact the bounty system is broken beyond all belief? 1: It's not possible to "pod" a bounty target in high sec to get a bounty pay out, as only the ship can be destroyed with out concord intervention. How does this make any sense at all? 2: Not possible to use the contract system to "take out contracts" on bounty targets. 3: Should not be possible for friends, corp mates, alliance mates to claim a bounty as a means to abuse the system and make is. 4: Hunting a bounty target should be easier as locator agents need a tweak. 5. It should be possible to kill and pod a bounty target while taking no security hits of your own, as currently killing a bounty target pod in low-sec nets a security hit which makes no sense at all. In short, being a "Bounty Hunter" should be a viable career path, it should be fun, and it should be more formally supported in the game system. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com
Tobiaz Spacerats 49	Posted - 2012.03.24 12:41:00 - [2] - Quote One thing at a time. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures!
Revolution Rising Gentlemen of Better Ilk 114	Posted - 2012.03.24 12:51:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah we need this fixed, I've long thought it should be in the game - it's one of the main staples of the space game. (Elite) Definitely a CSM subject for this year. My EVE YouTube Channel
Tobiaz Spacerats 49	Posted - 2012.03.24 12:58:00 - [4] - Quote With the new changes to crimewatch, wardecs and alliance contracts I very well foresee something like transferable kill-rights with bounty payout over killvalue coming in the Winter update. It's a lot smaller then what they are tackling now. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures!
Grumpy Owly 386	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:00:00 - [5] - Quote I think my views on the subject are generally known by some: Bounty Hunting for CSM7 However on the scale of significance the war dec system is a much more important system to resolve. I'm actually encouraged that some of the systems in the crimewatch and ward dec proposals actually afford towards some of the suggestions in a what could be new fixed BH system. e.g. mercenary marketplace or act to start a move of encouraging opportunities for player policing. Bounty Hunting for CSM7 It's just criminal - Smuggling
Damion Rayne Dark-Rising 23	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:03:00 - [6] - Quote If I could run for CSM and bring this up? I would. I've got several ideas for fixing this system, as I laid out, that is more than just "waaaa this sucks!". This system could be a 1000% better and sooo much more fun if it were given some attention and love. I mean think about it... Viable Carrer Path: PvP Focus Mercenary <--Not as supported as it should be, but wardec changes are going to help this. Solider <--join a pvp corp, you're good. Pirate <---shoot people in low sec, you're good. Bounty Hunder <---No where near as supported as it should be. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 43	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:08:00 - [7] - Quote A quick way to fix bountyhunting to be at least somewhat viable, would be to use the existing faction war mechanics in that would be bounty hunters could simply join a "militia" of sorts that makes bountied people permaflashy without Concord interference and vice versa. Sure the would be pirate could still have a bounty hunter alt that they could use to grab the bounty, but at the very least the Concord issue would be solved that way.
Damion Rayne Dark-Rising 24	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:11:00 - [8] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: A quick way to fix bountyhunting to be at least somewhat viable, would be to use the existing faction war mechanics in that would be bounty hunters could simply join a "militia" of sorts that makes bountied people permaflashy without Concord interference and vice versa. Sure the would be pirate could still have a bounty hunter alt that they could use to grab the bounty, but at the very least the Concord issue would be solved that way. I disagree with that entirely. That forces a normally "Lone Wolf" style of play, being the lone bounty hunter, boba fett style. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 43	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:19:00 - [9] - Quote Damion Rayne wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: A quick way to fix bountyhunting to be at least somewhat viable, would be to use the existing faction war mechanics in that would be bounty hunters could simply join a "militia" of sorts that makes bountied people permaflashy without Concord interference and vice versa. Sure the would be pirate could still have a bounty hunter alt that they could use to grab the bounty, but at the very least the Concord issue would be solved that way. I disagree with that entirely. That forces a normally "Lone Wolf" style of play, being the lone bounty hunter, boba fett style. I believe if it were made like that, that there would be numerous new bountyhunters working together and that way the pirates would be forced to do the same, resulting in more small gang warfare rather than 1v1's. Even if that didn't happen, there would be a lot more PvP happening in high sec space thanks to the pirates being in much higher danger due to the pods being shootable as soon as they enter.
Damion Rayne Dark-Rising 24	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:19:00 - [10] - Quote Also, while we're on broken stuff...and talking about WarDec's.. Let's make so people who are not at war, can not assist people who are at war. Stop the bloody station games and neutral-alt logi's repping war targets. Anyway, fix the bounty system. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com
Garmon Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 211	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:24:00 - [11] - Quote They just said bounty hunting is on their list, but didn't give any more details than that Check out GARMONATION 9 right now! Check out our site for PVP videos, guides and audio commentaries: www.EVEisEASY.com
Damion Rayne Dark-Rising 24	Posted - 2012.03.24 13:25:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, I saw that..one of the senior game designers said.. "We have a space ships game, but you can't be han solo or boba fett, that's not clever." Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5760	Posted - 2012.03.24 14:21:00 - [13] - Quote First they need to get crimewatch fixed so you can aggress people properly on verious terms. Then they need to put in a framework for different aggression GÇ£roles" GÇö wars, criminals, white-hats etc. Then they need to figure out a new contracting system, where the merc/ally contracts can be used as a basis. GÇªand then we can start to think about something that needs all of these systems to work and be bulletproof. Bounty-hunting is an edge-case to everything aggression-related. There's no point puttin one in when everything else is in play and up for (more or less) drastic rewrites. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 23	Posted - 2012.03.24 16:20:00 - [14] - Quote People have been calling for a fix to the bounty system FOREVER. I've kinda given up hope. CCP is more than happy to keep falsely advertising the possibilty of the bounty hunter career, in the hopes people will start playing eve (I mean, who doesn't want to be a bounty hunter??!?), but hasn't bothered to even look into a fix for YEARS! As usual, im going to post the blatant lie sitting on eve's shiny lying new website. Bounty Hunter LIES! Errm..... CCP, how about spending some time actually FIXING the bounty system before making out how cool you can be NOT BEING A BOUNTY HUNTER CAUSE ITS BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS!

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