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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:14:00 -
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Seventy-Five Days of Anarchy
For some 75 days the Freecaptains and Fighters of the Star Fraction have been prosecuting formal warfare against the capsuleer-controlled militia corporations of the Caldari State. We have openly adopted a policy of rotating a series of two to three outgoing war declarations against miltia corporations, with particular emphasis on those portraying themselves as leadership cadres within the militia.
These corporations, by their words and deeds associate themselves with the gangster regime currently holding sway in the State. They thereby become primary targets for the Star Fraction's operations against those who would reduce us all to slaves of one sort or another.
In the course of the campaign so far we have destroyed enemy shipping numbering over 600 hulls, sending more than 150 Caldari militia pilots back to their clone vats. We have struck at and destroyed several starbases owned and operated by Caldari militia corporations. We have operated in occupied Black Rise and within the territories of the pre-Heth State.
Opposition to our forces has been minimal, although there have been some honourable exceptions, and our losses number some 90 hulls with 10 clone destructions. Those organisations who have given any thought to the situation and latterly left the militia have in the main been those who have fought with distinction. Those who have refused to understand their state of slavery and abnegation have been those who have been as cattle to the stockyards.
The Freecaptains of the Star Fraction are satisfied that the campaign has been proceeding successfully and achieving with some comfortable margin our minimum goals for this period.
We consider ourselves justified in claiming our role in the Black Rise theatre as being instrumental in the awakening of several former militia corporations to their own best interests. As testament to this we note that the following corporations have renounced their affiliations with the Caldari militia while subject to a war declaration by the Star Fraction, reaching a level of understanding with our diplomats as to their future intentions:
- Achmed Fleet
- Haiduken.
- Legend's
- The Legion of Steel Warriors
- Tacos Revolution
- XERCORE
Many of the above have also publicly declared themselves dismayed by the effects of the Hethist tyranny on the spirit of the Caldari people.
In addition various other corporations have had their capabilities or will to fight for the expansionist Caldari regime significantly eroded while under war declaration by the Star Fraction:
- Duty. comforted themselves with a few desultory and non-commital engagements before, by their own admission, going on vacation as a prelude to withdrawing from the militia.
- First Caldari Regiment was reduced to a husk, bereft of what little command its hubristic founders gave it. It exists now solely as a monument to the stupidity of its commanders and the gullibility of its pilots.
- Mentally Unstable Enterprises, appearing to be a pirato-mercenary outfit preying on fellow militia as much as anyone else, decided to move out not long after one of their starbases was destroyed by a Star Fraction capital fleet.
- Pothouse Cartel opted to hollow out its forces and place them in another corporation after a short, sharp bout of warfare.
- Revival. pronounced themselves disgusted with the Caldari militia and left within days of being declared on by the Star Fraction.
- Sigillum Militum Xpisti adopted a policy of flying when not under war declaration, while scuttling for their docking bays like cockroaches caught in the glare of a halogen lamp when a declaration was active. Possibly this was a sensible recognition of their capabilities.
[cont...]
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:14:00 -
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[...cont]
The Star Fraction's operations have further been noted in both the independent and state media. The Caldari militias have gone so far as to demand a special clause in the CONCORD war powers legislation to deal with our entirely legitimate use of sanctioned warfare against capsuleer-owned corporations within the militia. Meanwhile, a number of mercenary corporations declared against us, only to fall away after making no impact. The Caldari militias have come to recognise internally that the presence of the Star Fraction has significantly impeded their development as an effective military force.
Naturally, we anticipate the usual carping and denials. Certainly, we accept that this communique is in the nature of propaganda of the word but we point out that our propaganda of the deed backs it up in very large part.
Further combat operations against Caldari militia forces are forthcoming. We shall however be monitoring the situation in this theatre closely with a view to the balance of power and the threat of any statist entity achieving hegemony in the region of Black Rise. Heth's tyranny is crude and obvious in the manner of a charlatan selling miracle cures. There are other, more insidious and subtle tyrannies which we do not intend to ignore. Nor do we necessarily believe the two are mutually exclusive.
Our times are dangerous. The threat to the future we seek is greater now than it ever has been. The Star Fraction will defend that future of universal freedom to the death and beyond.
On behalf of the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction, The Cosmopolite
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Revolution is freedom proved in the crucible of facts and lasts so long as freedom lasts, that is until others, taking advantage of the weariness that overtakes the masses, of the inevitable disappointments that follow exaggerated hopes, of the probable errors and human faults, succeed in constituting a power, which supported by an army of conscripts or mercenaries, lays down the law, arrests the movement at the point it has reached, and then begins the reaction. [fragment, unknown ancient]
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Dark Viceroy
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:48:00 -
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Thats rather amusing regarding Duty at least. You declared war on them, failed to seek them out, lost more ISK than they did, and are declaring that a victory?
Star Fraction at it's best.....
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Stitcher
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 29/08/2008 09:57:00
You know what? Dark Viceroy just summarized what I was going to say perfectly.
We actually ENJOYED fighting Star Fraction. It's a bit of a stretch to claim that our morale was "eroded" at all by those few scuffles when we left the field on every occasion congratulating each other on a job well done and generally riding the testosterone wave, having blown up more of your money than you blew up ours.
Of course, this being your official "get up on the stage and show off your ego" topic, it's only expected that you, uh... embellish the truth a little bit. So, no real harm done.
For the record, however, our withdrawal from the Protectorate is entirely unrelated to the state of our corporate morale. I'm not at liberty to share our reasons for leaving over a public-access channel, however. -
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Lucai
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Lucai on 29/08/2008 10:53:33
The losses regarding Duty. were admittedly rather even on both sides.
But that being said all your kills were essentially on top of your home station, playing docking games, and you never left that station except for travel inties/shuttles.
So, my utmost respect to you for not having the balls to even move an inch away from big mama home station, and its so nice that you admit to tremendously enjoy playing docking games all day.
I salute true warriors. *curtseys*

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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 10:59:00 -
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* The Cosmopolite chuckles and shrugs...
Duty. are out of the militia and we merely note that their few engagements with us were not pursued by them to any effective impact. They won a couple, we won one. The combat data set is so small as not to support any great claims by anyone. On the other hand, at the time it was indicated to us that they would not be in space in numbers due to a diminished roster and might later withdraw from the militia. Good enough, we turned our attention to more active militia forces. I'd be loath to suspect that this was some ploy on their part to deflect our attention while they banked a rather meaningless tally. We took them at their word and certainly it has passed that they left and went on to do other things. Possibly we were over-generous.
In any event, victory? Not really and not claimed. Embellishment? Hardly. The facts are as stated. No, it is just a case of the political background radiation registering on the geiger counters as expected.
Meanwhile, our campaign in Black Rise and the near environs continues, long after Duty. û a name redolent with the fragrance of exquisite irony in the circumstances û has left the field. Others continue to fight under the banner of the State, at the orders of Heth and the regime he represents. Combating these misguided capsuleers is of more importance and the thrust of our review of the campaign and its operational goals, supported by the facts, the media and the outcries of the militias themselves, is that we have achieved a measure of success in that endeavour.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |

Kitoba
Minmatar Legion of Dynamic Discord
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:34:00 -
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I just wish it wasn't illusionary to expect CVA to do the same for quite the same reasons.
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Number 17
Caldari COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:46:00 -
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*opens IGS on his datapad, looks at the cosmopolite's picture and the wall of text, fights the drowsiness when trying to read, finally skipping most of the babble"
These guys are so obsessed with the caldari people it makes you wonder...
You are not liberating anything Jericho Fraction (or whatever is left of your cult). You are merely sending people back to the comfort of their high security offices, to keep working for the state, for heth, and for the megacorporations. You should know better.
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Nathan Harrow
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:59:00 -
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I agree with The Cosmopolite that yes we only had a few engagements with the Star Fraction and the ISK lost by both sides was negligable. This was, however, due to the fact that the majority of our pilots were fighting for the state in Black Rise and not in empire at our HQ where they chose to engage us.
It is interesting to note that the week of the 16th till the 25th - the period we were at war with The Star Fraction - saw Duty. at the top of the kill board for the Caldari Militia, with a confirmed 109 kills against federation targets. Who ever informed you that we had a diminished roster and that we were non-commital was unfortunately wrong. We just did not let your declaration of war get in the way of our primary duty to the state.
I will however, regardless of whether of not i agree with your anarchistic views, admit your recent war decs have been effective against certain corporations. I congratulate you in achieving what was undoubtabley one of your goals. These true victories are worth annoucing to the pod pilot community and being proud of.
However you should be focusing on these victories rather than trying to put a spin on those that ended in what was basically a stalemate. Such wars should be admitted as such, no one would think any less of you. I actually believe that you would be credited with more respect for being honest.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:11:00 -
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If I may make an observation.
As I read The Cosmopolitan's communique... I can see how you are thinking he's claiming that SF was responsible for the eroding of the will to fight... but his actual text merely states a concurrence rather than causality. The entire context of his statements argue for causality but the text itself is ambiguous enough that he could only be saying concurrence. Maybe you should ask for clarification.
Consider this my asking for clarification.
Are you implying that SF caused the erosion of will or merely noting a concurrence in events?
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 15:10:00 -
[11]
Erosion of will? * The Lieutenant Colonel makes an attempt to chuckle but his emotional pre-set systems fails miserably *
Allow me to step into this theatre of glorious wars and tell you what the influence of anarchism has done to the mighty State:
* It has shown to the Universe that we are the strongest and most feared of all Militias, therefore the external concentration of anarchists entirely on us for seventy-five days.
* It has shown to the State that power doesn't come without perseverance, it has separated the weak from the strong, it has taught the Officers the meaning of endurance and strength our determination to no ends.
* It has cleansed our Militia from its weak links: From betrayers, from isk seekers above the State, from soldiers that have enlisted in search of merely causing casualities at space without a minimum consideration for the State and their territory.
* It has increased immensely the recruitment of soldiers for the front line and again, once the anarchists took care of the cleansing the house for us, we could concentrate on forming new officers with equal and better capability.
* It has increased our power with Public Relations and we are now, the only Milita that grows and fights back against almost overwhelming attacks of all directions. And still, we grow in will and learn each day how to be the best to be able to fight back, day after day.
I could continue with this list for, in truth, there were many more favours and advantages that the anarchists have brought us and will continue to bring as the anarchist movement considers us the Supreme most feared power in this Universe and direct their resources, time and full attention despite the fact of us, officers having better things to concentrate as fighting our enemy lines and conquesting territories.
Hail to the State, Hail to Heth and all soldiers in arms. We are nowadays the centre of all Warfare communiques, the Universe turns to us to mirror their own and put a meaning in their empty shadow lives.
One only opposes what one fears. Certainly we are here to attest that.
Sofcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 29/08/2008 16:08:54
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
* It has increased immensely the recruitment of soldiers for the front line and again, once the anarchists took care of the cleansing the house for us, we could concentrate on forming new officers with equal and better capability.
* It has increased our power with Public Relations and we are now, the only Milita that grows and fights back against almost overwhelming attacks of all directions. And still, we grow in will and learn each day how to be the best to be able to fight back, day after day.
Trustworthy statistics here would claim otherwise.
Pilot participation has been falling for all parties with the exception of Ammar. I'm sorry but at this date this is factually indisputable. You may make claims to the contrary but the numbers do not back you up in this specific matter.
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 29/08/2008 16:08:54
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
* It has increased immensely the recruitment of soldiers for the front line and again, once the anarchists took care of the cleansing the house for us, we could concentrate on forming new officers with equal and better capability.
* It has increased our power with Public Relations and we are now, the only Milita that grows and fights back against almost overwhelming attacks of all directions. And still, we grow in will and learn each day how to be the best to be able to fight back, day after day.
Trustworthy statistics here would claim otherwise.
Pilot participation has been falling for all parties with the exception of Ammar. I'm sorry but at this date this is factually indisputable. You may make claims to the contrary but the numbers do not back you up in this specific matter.
We will agree on disagreeing here soldier. If you pushed the same statistics before 2.03 pm same day you would see the Caldari Militia with a + 50 something pilots while the Gallent with a minus 15. Yet we both know that the same statistics are dynamic changing every 24 hours or so. If you click again this same statistics in 24 hours it may show something again, totaly different and your post won'St make sense at all.
So, it's not a good base of reference for your argument.
There is no reason to assume that every reader here is ignorant towards this fact.
My statement on this post relates to the number of pilots that have enlisted despite of the anarchists campaign which is increasingly growing and as we begin to be the force of major attention, it will remain as such.
For the State. For Heth.
Sofcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:23:00 -
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Don't assume I'm using the same figures your using in the same way. It is not the instance data that I'm referring to but rather the trending.
Up 50 pilots is nothing when you consider 6000 participants. It isn't even a ripple. The trend is a downward trend for all but Amarr.
You can claim what you want and have it supported by instance statistics but it is demonstrably inaccurate when you take the entire picture into account.
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor Don't assume I'm using the same figures your using in the same way.
Then we are speaking different languages therefore no common base for arguments or debates.
Statistics are there to be read and interpreted as such. You say that 50 pilots is nothing, I say that each pilot counts and it's important to the machine of war.
I'll repeat what I have stated above as we both know we have no time to waste with this sort of discordances: We will agree on disagreeing here and leave the thread to the original subject of anarchist influence on the mighty caldari war and how beautiful Jade Constantine's hair is today.
In this regard, I'm sure that the anarchist's attempt of propaganda would be much more successful if coming from her lips.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caladri State Mordus Legion Loyslist
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:23:00 -
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beautiful, simply, wonderfully beautiful
the Star Fraction Alliance has the full and complete support of the Gallente Federation, and the majority of the Gallente Milita at its back
this amazing alliance is using its own funds to help in the on going fight against the terroristic , capitalistic and rebellious Caldari "empire" and should be commended for it
i on behalf of the majority of the gallente federation salute you Star Fraction Alliance
wonderful job
o7
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Victoria Ehr
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:43:00 -
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Jericho Fraction is one of those kind of entities that would have you believe they are doing something.
In actuality they harm the Gallente more than they know. They further make the State and Tibus Heth stronger than ever. Nobody likes anarchists and murderers. The unlawful acts of Jericho Fraction only anger more people. People may not all agree with Tibus Heth, yet more come to the Caldari to at least oppose anarchists.
Nobody should fear these thugs in Jericho Fraction, they are pointless, they have no loyalty but to themselves. While the Glorious State grows stronger through loyalty in war, the likes of anarchists wander and always have the opposite affect of which they intended.
Go find another job Jade Constantine, and let your anarchist slaves free. -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!
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BloodBird
Gallente Tactical Freedom Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 i on behalf of the majority of the gallente federation
And when did you recieve the right to speak for all or even the majority of the Federation Militia?
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:55:00 -
[19]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
the Star Fraction Alliance has the full and complete support of the Gallente Federation
Now this crowns all the five years effort of an Anti Territorialist alliance!
Believe me, even I couldn't do any better compliment to the anarchists and sink their 5 years accomplishments against governments to the sink.
I, salute you.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Technology Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyslist
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Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 19:02:00 -
[20]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
the Star Fraction Alliance has the full and complete support of the Gallente Federation, and the majority of the Gallente Milita at its back
You have no idea.
You obviously insult the great many people and fighters in the Gallente Federation that actually have morals and dignity. I happen to know Gallente who despise what this anarchist faction is doing. If citizens of any state knew the truth of what Jericho Fraction stood for they would never want it fighting for their side.
Perhaps soon our nations can find peace to at least unite against murderers, thugs, anarchists of the galaxy that dare pawn themselves off as "freedom fighters"
-------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 19:12:00 -
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Victoria, the cheerleader, the next time a scourge missile is launched from your ship in anger, you should ponder your label of murderer. I am sure the pilot on the other side considers you the same. Flexible term this is. Fact is around here we all kill and revolutions are always unlawful. When the dust settles, what is considered lawful changes.
The Caldari revolted from the Gallente at one time, so even your society was born out of a revolution. A pity it was just trading one evil for another. And now the Caldari have Heth.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 19:14:00 -
[22]
Originally by: BloodBird
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 i on behalf of the majority of the gallente federation
And when did you recieve the right to speak for all or even the majority of the Federation Militia?
this...
soldier, the Gallente Federation and the Star Fraction are two seperate entities. SF do not do what they do for the benifit of Gallente peoples but for the detriment of Caldari peoples.
And what authority do you have on behalf of the gallente federation to speak in its name and by proxy the name of the corporations that support it.
None.... Your enthusiasm while appreciated is misapplied in this issue.
SF is merely the Enemy of my Enemy... nothing more to my understanding.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.29 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor
Originally by: BloodBird
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 i on behalf of the majority of the gallente federation
And when did you recieve the right to speak for all or even the majority of the Federation Militia?
this...
soldier, the Gallente Federation and the Star Fraction are two seperate entities. SF do not do what they do for the benifit of Gallente peoples but for the detriment of Caldari peoples.
which in itself is a good enough reason, they would not be in this predicament if they simply accepted gallente rule, whether or not they do it for me or for their own selfish values
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:03:00 -
[24]
Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 29/08/2008 20:03:12
Originally by: Kovid Victoria, the cheerleader,
sure, two-four-six-eight who do we all love to hate... anarchists- exploiters - Jerrricho FRACTION! \o/ -------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:15:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Victoria Ehr Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 29/08/2008 20:03:12
Originally by: Kovid Victoria, the cheerleader,
sure, two-four-six-eight who do we all love to hate... anarchists- exploiters - Jerrricho FRACTION! \o/
"Exploiters" (leaving aside the slander bit) is OOC and has no place on IGS
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Chema Opulat
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:22:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Victoria Ehr Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 29/08/2008 20:03:12
Originally by: Kovid Victoria, the cheerleader,
sure, two-four-six-eight who do we all love to hate... anarchists- exploiters - Jerrricho FRACTION! \o/
"Exploiters" (leaving aside the slander bit) is OOC and has no place on IGS
Clearly is referring to work-practices, quite legitimate for a caldari!
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:55:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Victoria Ehr sure, two-four-six-eight who do we all love to hate... anarchists- exploiters - Jerrricho FRACTION! \o/
Let's not bring words such as hate and exploiters to the anarchist movement. Certainly this is not necessary Captain. It's beneath us.
Respectfully
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legin Loyalist.
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Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:07:00 -
[28]
Hate is an appropriate word to use for groups such as terrorists, anarchists, murderers, those who seek to destroy the order of any society. Just as a citizen who has lost a son or daughter needlessly to them. These kind of people step out of the laws of war between nations and they exploit laws and order for their own agenda.
I will Cheer when they have been exterminated. -------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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Sykes
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:26:00 -
[29]
How are you planning to exterminate us Victoria?
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Stitcher
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:27:00 -
[30]
She wasn't. THIS:
Originally by: Victoria Ehr I will Cheer when they have been exterminated.
Is a very far cry from claiming that she will do it personaly. -
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Sykes
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:51:00 -
[31]
Who then?
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Stitcher
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:54:00 -
[32]
What, like we're supposed to KNOW? Space and Spirits, pilot have you never heard the term "rhetoric"? -
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Sykes
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:57:00 -
[33]
Ah OK, rhetoric, fair enough :)
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 22:15:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Stitcher What, like we're supposed to KNOW? Space and Spirits, pilot have you never heard the term "rhetoric"?
To start, an observation, no entity in this universe is immune to extermination. There will always be someone bigger that eventually will find enough importance to eliminate a weaker one.
The biggest question is to find this reason and be good enough to be noted by the stronger then you, not the weaker.
So, I don't see it as a rethoric, the extermination of any entity is a real possibility.
About the term rhetoric itself, it saddens me to see that the anarchist movement seems to have lost their biggest weapon , exactly "rhetoric" itself. I'm yet to read an anarchist making one of those breath-taking speeches as I once heard when preparing myself to the capsuler life.
Sofcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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d'hofren
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 22:22:00 -
[35]
Edited by: d''hofren on 29/08/2008 22:26:08
Originally by: Victoria Ehr Hate is an appropriate word to use for groups such as terrorists, anarchists, murderers, those who seek to destroy the order of any society. Just as a citizen who has lost a son or daughter needlessly to them. These kind of people step out of the laws of war between nations and they exploit laws and order for their own agenda.
I will Cheer when they have been exterminated.
Hate, my dear is an abstract that purely shows we are effecting the caldari militia as we intended.
What you don't seem to understand I fight for the underclass, the non pod pilots, becuause to quote this yellowed paper book beside me, (yes paper, anachronistic I know), that little tome says.... If there is hope... it lies in the proles
You, Victoria darling, fight for the state. Oppression, social ghettoism, xenophobia, oppression by the moneyed few.
I fight for the grovelling poor gallente on caldari prime as they cower under the street corner militias rubberized heel.
I fight for the cladari denied the right to make his place in null sec by the inclosurist alliances of today.
I fight for the matari slave who, gifted and talented as she might be, will never rise to the ranks of the imortal pod pilot you and I are.
I fight for the prole and I fight with free will.
To quote a text quoted on our internal comnet by a supporting comrade, "it is not light that is needed, but fire", and believe me our supporters are numerous. The SF star is scratched on many a door post throughout the galaxy and where the star shines, hope burns.
If I chose wrong, I chose to the best of my freewill. Before you say it,we differ on this, see you in hell becuase the way the universe stands today, we are there already.
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d'hofren
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 22:23:00 -
[36]
Edited by: d''hofren on 29/08/2008 22:24:44 Edited by: d''hofren on 29/08/2008 22:24:04 meh...
comms error, galnet access from here is a bit shoddy.
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Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.29 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: SOFcode Z777
About the term rhetoric itself, it saddens me to see that the anarchist movement seems to have lost their biggest weapon , exactly "rhetoric" itself.
Only empty rhetoric is in danger, the words of Jericho are confirmed by its actions.
We are the plowshare become swords; you cannot make swords without words.
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 23:27:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Skogen Gump
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
About the term rhetoric itself, it saddens me to see that the anarchist movement seems to have lost their biggest weapon , exactly "rhetoric" itself.
Only empty rhetoric is in danger, the words of Jericho are confirmed by its actions.
We are the plowshare become swords; you cannot make swords without words.
The day that the anarchists loses words for only actions, is the day that you'll become like thousands and thousands of other entities at space that can do equal and even much more efficient actions without the universe even knowing about them.
The plowshare becoming swords... almost there but not even close from what it once was.
Sofcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:02:00 -
[39]
Originally by: d'hofren I fight for the Caldari denied the right to make his place in null sec by the inclosurist alliances of today.
Then stop attacking Caldari corporations attempting to defend the useful development of Black Rise for the purposes of a multitude of corporations and head into Pure Blind, Cloud Ring, Tribute, Vale of the Silent, or Geminate. You are preventing Caldari corporations from even maintaining high security space operations.
Originally by: d'hofren I fight for the grovelling poor Gallente on Caldari Prime as they cower under the street corner militias rubberized heel.
Stop calling it Caldari Prime if you don't think a Caldari dirt-side government should control the planet. Those militias are largely made up of what you would have been calling grovelling poor Caldari 3 months ago by the way. They are no longer grovelling.
Originally by: d'hofren You... fight for the state. Oppression, social ghettoism, xenophobia, oppression by the moneyed few.
Oppression, you have this twice so I am not sure what the first one means unless it is also a reference to the second instance. I will address the second instance. The corporations seem to many on the outside to be by their very nature oppressive; this is however wrong. Some corporations have had poor leaders who before being placed in executive positions had not lead much of anything. Their appointments were political, Heth has changed this to some degree and the collapsing economy have shown the failure of the corrupt and oppressive CEOs. Your attacks against State organizations only makes worse an already bad situation and fuels the State's need for strong security over liberties.
You also need to realize that unlike in Gallente culture, the individual Caldari is not all important. His family, his clan, his corporation comes before self. This is not about laboring to make a small group of executives richer (one of Tibus Heth's points), it is about ensuring the whole is successful and continues to survive. So what you may see as oppression is the freewill choice of the members of the culture to put something before self. Tibus Heth states he is working for the Caldari people and largely with their approval. It is those moneyed few and the capsuleers who have the most to lose with Heth in power and the average worker the most to gain. (sarcasm) But we know better, we know what is best for those living and working on the planets, moons, stations, and starships. (end sarcasm)
The Gallente & Minmatar can prove to be just as xenophobic, as demonstrated by many of them here on IGS. Am I xenophobic, a bit; but in truth I look for those with ability and drive to better the corporation I run, hopefully in the process improving the whole corporation's circumstances. Most people are xenophobic, stereotyping individuals based on their place of origin and if they don't like that place of origin they tend to not like those people in general.
My xenophobia is based on a fear that a foreign government will involve itself in the affairs of mine and other Caldari corporations. It appears that such a fear is well founded.
The last term, "social ghettoism", I will have to ask you to define as my Galnet reference material produces a definition that I don't believe you meant.
As to the success of SF, congratulations on hindering the development of what could become the begins of a return to the Caldari corporate ideal.
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d'hofren
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:10:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: d'hofren I fight for the Caldari denied the right to make his place in null sec by the inclosurist alliances of today.
Then stop attacking Caldari corporations attempting to defend the useful development of Black Rise for the purposes of a multitude of corporations and head into Pure Blind, Cloud Ring, Tribute, Vale of the Silent, or Geminate. You are preventing Caldari corporations from even maintaining high security space operations.
It's strange you should mention that but my first true warfare was as part of NORAD, trying to keep outer ring clean for all who wanted to live there. Reember back then all those who wanted access just had to invest effort.
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Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:47:00 -
[41]
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
The day that the anarchists loses words for only actions, is the day that you'll become like thousands and thousands of other entities at space that can do equal and even much more efficient actions without the universe even knowing about them.
The plowshare becoming swords... almost there but not even close from what it once was.
Sofcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
We clearly didn't lose the words, and we clearly haven't lost the actions; but thank you for your benefaction.
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 02:29:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Skogen Gump We clearly didn't lose the words, and we clearly haven't lost the actions; but thank you for your benefaction.
Mmmm my apologies than, it might be that your words just became as small as your actions at the present day. As I said, I was used to be amused by War Diaries of battles where an accomplishment so small as fighting a 20 men entity could be at least made to look good with the stream pearls of words falling from Miss Constantine's lips.
But I'm clearly mistaken as those, are things of the past, as much as your anti-territorial philosophy after siding with territorial governments. I'll return to learn from your alliance from the holorells of past and shall leave your words and actions of the present at rest where they belong now.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.30 12:55:00 -
[43]
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
But I'm clearly mistaken as those, are things of the past, as much as your anti-territorial philosophy after siding with territorial governments. I'll return to learn from your alliance from the holorells of past and shall leave your words and actions of the present at rest where they belong now.
Some things are generally useful indicators of the success of the Star Fraction when it comes to discomfiting our enemies. One, particularly common symptom, is the 'Your glory days, which were admittedly great indeed, are long gone.' gambit coupled with the 'Your principles, which were fine in theory, have been forgotten.' play. Enemies of all stripes and hues of political and military competence and power have deployed this against us when they find they have failed to deflect us with force in space and they see that our arguments are gaining ground.
Some of these people have been the equivalent of the intestinal disease of a root-chewing wild hog when it comes to potency in either the crafts of war or the practice of rhetoric. Others have been in their own corrupt fashion military colossi or practioners of the Ciceronian arts to be admired even while countered with all the cunning we can muster. Some, occasionally, have combined those attributes and been reckoned mighty opponents indeed.
I am not sure I care to say where SOFcode Z777 fits in this spectrum but I fear that I do not detect the sign and spoor of a titan undoubted in either the arena of warfare or the theatre of persuasion.
On to other matters, I see that some capsuleers delude themselves that the militia is the best means to reinvigorate the 'Caldari corporate ideal'. Some even seem to believe that Heth is the answer to the corrupting nature of the Caldari State. As if concentrating power in the hands of one person is the answer to the ailments and stupidities that flow from concentrating power in the hands of a few people.
Further, it appears to be seriously suggested that the adventurist occupation of an entire region by a territorial power, with a militarist philosophy and a vertically-constituted command economy that is a sick parody of a free market, is the one true way to free space for independents. Nonsense. Let us be clear on one point that I feel some have misunderstood: The Star Fraction considers the current regime in the Caldari State to be the logical development of the corrupt regime that preceded it. The Caldari State has for too long been out of balance with the people who make up the vast majority of its inhabitants.
Love of family? Yes, this is a Caldari ideal. It is also an anarchist ideal. Amity and loyalty to one's associates? Yes, this is a Caldari ideal. It is also an anarchist ideal. Love of one's people? Yes, this is a Caldari ideal. It is also an anarchist ideal. For an anarchist all the peoples of the cluster are worthy of love and friendship. This being so, is it not absurd to the point of perversity to suggest that an anarchist should make an exception and not love his own people?
So far as the individual is concerned. It is quite clear to me that many Caldari recognise that a prime duty of life is to recognise one's own interests and to act accordingly. Those Caldari who are able to exercise these interests in freedom continue to honour all those things they love because they see it as in their interest. They do so without harming others. Those Caldari who are trapped in the State while dimly perceiving their interests generally have three choices: rebel, submit to slavery or enslave others. Those Caldari who can in no way be considered physically trapped must consider that they have allowed themselves to be infected by outdated memes and subject their beliefs to scrutiny. A refusal to undertake so basic a human activity as self-reflection tends to give moral absolution to those opposing with violence any who would deny freedom to others even as they surrender their own.
The Cosmopolite
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 16:00:00 -
[44]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite 'Your glory days, which were admittedly great indeed, are long gone.' gambit coupled with the 'Your principles, which were fine in theory, have been forgotten.'
I know I hit a nerve there old man. Truth hurts. Even I feel a bit sorry to write this, I think I may have touched a very emotional point for an old organization that just seeks a meaning to exist still. I shall be a little more human in this regard.
Jade Constantine is a good pilot, and has been a reference of endurance, perseverance and somehow an icon of this Universe. My admiration for her remains as much as my despise to her subordinates such as you old man, trying to reach a little of her glory without minimum chance to even get closer.
Regarding me, don't concern yourself... With less than an year at space, I'm sure that history will begin to be formed to the future and I'm not least concerned with it. My duty is to the State here and now and the State will recognize or not my history as one worthy of as many words as you bother to write, apprentice of an anarchist.
The present speaks for itself.
And I'll get the advantage to use this communiquT to something more expressive, which is to congratulate the soldiers of the Caldari State who, as we speak have joined us to take back one of our systems from the enemy hands.
To all who participate on daily operations and knows how much efforts does it take, I salute you!
For the State!
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.30 17:40:00 -
[45]
* The Cosmopolite gives vent to a great lusty roar of laughter and can be seen holding his midriff with one hand while waving around a half-cigar, smouldering and emitting a trail of purple smoke, with the other...
Ah, dear me.
I think an ancient Caldari poem of the early Raata period is only appropriate at this juncture:
Harsh sound û hail spattering my traveller's hat.
...The Cosmopolite draws on his cigar, still chuckling and snorting good-humoured gouts of smoke from his nostrils, before cutting off the transmission.
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |

SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 18:03:00 -
[46]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite * The Cosmopolite gives vent to a great lusty roar of laughter and can be seen holding his midriff with one hand while waving around a half-cigar, smouldering and emitting a trail of purple smoke, with the other...
Ah, dear me.
I think an ancient Caldari poem of the early Raata period is only appropriate at this juncture:
Harsh sound û hail spattering my traveller's hat.
...The Cosmopolite draws on his cigar, still chuckling and snorting good-humoured gouts of smoke from his nostrils, before cutting off the transmission.
I'm always glad to be proven right.. nothing else to expect just chuckles and half-cigars...
And yet we hope that the smoke will be flavoured... in vain.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.30 19:10:00 -
[47]
Originally by: SOFcode Z777 I'm always glad to be proven right.. nothing else to expect just chuckles and half-cigars...
What's it like to only see that which you want to see? _
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 19:27:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux What's it like to only see that which you want to see?
I'll leave the anarchists to answer that, it's their expertise after all. Also they are good to see what's not even there, so you'll have a bonus on this subjective question of yours.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist.
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:46:00 -
[49]
As a totally unrelated neutral to any/all corporations in this discussion, and being completely irellevant to factional warfare, I think I am in the unique position to say :
Its just a game.
But I shall not patronise you by saying "Chill out." You do as you please.
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Jay Marshall
Caldari Walks Forever Trade Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:47:00 -
[50]
Just a aside but the title of your system message is misleading. I thought that SF was standing against all militias, yet it seems that all you talk of is taking out the Caldari corps that have joined into the fray.
Are you also not eliminating Gallanete, Minmatar and Amarrian militias? ------------------------ CEO Walks Forever Trade Inc
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.08.31 07:39:00 -
[51]
Originally by: SOFcode Z777
I'm always glad to be proven right.. nothing else to expect just chuckles and half-cigars...
And yet we hope that the smoke will be flavored... in vain.
*Laughs* I honestly don't think that you understand how often that poor, worn out argument has been tossed in front of the Fractionieers in the minute hopes that the poor dead thing might spring to life and suddenly, against all hope, carry your opinion to victory.
My stars, its like looking at a distorted reflection of myself from years past but uglier. Is this much as I was then eh Cosmo? ----- *results may vary*
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Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.31 10:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Its just a game.
But I shall not patronise you by saying "Chill out." You do as you please.
I beg your pardon Sir, but what may be a "game" to you is very serious to those who care.
There are people suffering under the wicked guise of so called freedom fighters. They are terrorists...anarchists that seek only to destroy our way of life.
You should take it more seriously. -------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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Invelious
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.31 16:38:00 -
[53]
The Cosmopolite once told me that the The Star Fraction is opposed to all of the major governments i.e (Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and Amarr).
With that said, you understand Cosmo that your alliance is directly assisting the Gallente and Minmatar in their operations against the Caldari State. Have you taken a side in this war and masquerading your intentions behind your anti governmental views. Or you just hitting the Caldari first then working your way to a different faction?
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.31 17:33:00 -
[54]
Invelious, you casually claim that we provide 'direct' help for the Gallente and Minmatar militias. I beg to differ. Elements of the Gallente militia have been fired on and destroyed by our fighters as opportunities have arisen. Other elements of that militia have engaged us at will. There is no state of co-operation here. As to the Minmatar militia, at present we do not operate in their main area of activity and are carefully monitoring the political situation with regard to the Republic. That said, we have the government-controlled militia set to hostile and we have been attacked by some capsuleer militias bearing the flag of the Republic. We oppose that mode of government but we maintain alliances with freedom-minded Minmatar corporations and organisations.
It is easy for people to say that the destruction of a given party's enemies is equivalent to assisting that party. In terms of outcomes it may, indeed, be so, but not through any particular desire to help that party nor by any confluence of interests except the fleeting fact that the target of the moment happens to the enemy of that party. We have to act in recognition of the fact that we are actors in a world where the consequences of our actions have to be weighed one against the other. It is no good submitting to paralysis just because an action with useful consequences also has some less desirable ones.
When all is said and done, there is no sense in refraining from exterminating one set of diseased vermin simply because they happen to be in competition with another set of pestilence-ridden beasts.
Now then, Gorion, a word to reassure you. I would not be so thoughtless as to bracket you, who have proven yourself capable of seizing your own destiny, with any passing jackanapes incapable of dropping the lead-shielding of their conditioning for fear of a dose of liberty's good radiation. Dire foes we may have once been, and in that time have exchanged harsh words, but what is all that to such as us but the heat of arguments past from which we can derive at least a little light?
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |

Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.31 21:13:00 -
[55]
Oh good grief.... what is worse than an anarchist? An educated anarchist who thinks he can make sense with words.
After the Gallente have surrendered.... Anarchists will feel Heth's wrath. -------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.08.31 22:55:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Victoria Ehr After the Gallente have surrendered.... Anarchists will feel Heth's wrath.
Ah, more "rhetoric". Rhetoric does nothing, maybe you should try a little action. You know, in space and all... Just a suggestion.
Love and Ganking, Jonny D. ------------------------- CEO and Professor of Gunboat Diplomacy |

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.01 00:02:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Victoria Ehr After the Gallente have surrendered.... Anarchists will feel Heth's wrath.
You truly are unsalvageable, aren't you?
What the hell makes you think we're gonna surrender when we're winning? -----
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Jeremy Erik
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.01 07:24:00 -
[58]
Has SF actually achieved anything but clogging up galnet and self-righteous wars? Have they "freed" anyone? Seems all they do is beat their chest, give long sermons on what they believe is right and wrong and condemn all others because they don't agree. Sounds less like an anarchist and more like The Church of Star Fraction. Careful, they will start passing the collection plate before too long. You say the Caldari would enslave us, felt more enslaved by the 75 days of this speech than by the State. Ah well, lesson learned: if the communication is SF, hit the off switch. |

SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.09.01 13:35:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Jeremy Erik Has SF actually achieved anything but clogging up galnet and self-righteous wars? Have they "freed" anyone? Seems all they do is beat their chest, give long sermons on what they believe is right and wrong and condemn all others because they don't agree. Sounds less like an anarchist and more like The Church of Star Fraction. Careful, they will start passing the collection plate before too long. You say the Caldari would enslave us, felt more enslaved by the 75 days of this speech than by the State. Ah well, lesson learned: if the communication is SF, hit the off switch.
I wouldn't go so far as to question the anarchists this way. Freedom itself, is a subjective word and perhaps we don't understand this freedom in chaos that they seek as much as they don't understand the freedom in Order that we offer. About SF communiquTs, I would tend to agree when it's not coming from their leader. I have heard that their Leader was or Is still ( the present yet to be seen ) a very well-spoken woman, able to produce master pieces of literature.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist |

Jeremy Erik
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.01 16:15:00 -
[60]
Masterpieces of literature? Propaganda maybe. The largest form of non-conformity is conformity. I am a new pilot and already bitter, does that seem right to you? Never met any of SF in space, and yet here I am dreading any communique that has their name on it. Seems they would drown out the opinions of others with droning speeches. Not that much of an accomplishment. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a sympathizer of the Caldari State or it's pilots. I just sympathize with any that accidentally get caught under the enormous tidal wave that is their words. I have not felt inspired to their cause by their leader's sermons. I can appreciate literature, believe me, but it's just that...she can save her breath and write books instead. Public speeches on the other hand...where is raising of spirits? the rally to their side? the "hey, they have a point there"? I've felt more pull to your cause SOFcode z777 than theirs. *chuckles and shakes his head* That is so wrong. |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.01 17:24:00 -
[61]
One of the greatest failings of Fraction philosophy exposed by the words of Jeremy Erik. Try as we might we simply cannot tailor the agenda of freespace radical anarchism to appeal to plasmodial slime molds.
We must do what we can to continue though, supported only by free spirits and courageous captains possessed by naught but devil-may-care panache and boundless joie de vivre. Perhaps these attributes coupled with warships and the cunning of immortal grace will serve in the absence of amoeboid approval.
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.09.01 17:41:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Jeremy Erik Masterpieces of literature? Propaganda maybe. The largest form of non-conformity is conformity. I am a new pilot and already bitter, does that seem right to you?
No Mr. Erik, that doesn't seem right.
Originally by: Jeremy Erik Never met any of SF in space, and yet here I am dreading any communique that has their name on it. Seems they would drown out the opinions of others with droning speeches. Not that much of an accomplishment.
Yes, not much of an accomplishment.
Originally by: Jeremy Erik I have not felt inspired to their cause by their leader's sermons. I can appreciate literature, believe me, but it's just that...she can save her breath and write books instead.
As a loyal to the State, I wouldn't feel inspired by the anarchist leader's sermons either, but I grant you that you haven't seen her at her best yet. Inspiration? No never, a cause of chaos without order is never something we should be inspired to, but appreciation to a talent, yes. I, for one would like to read it.
Originally by: Jeremy Erik Public speeches on the other hand...where is raising of spirits? the rally to their side? the "hey, they have a point there"? I've felt more pull to your cause SOFcode z777 than theirs. *chuckles and shakes his head* That is so wrong.
Your words are quite a compliment, althought I must make a small remark here: my cause is not my own but a Nation's cause to which I don't represent either, merely bring the parts to which I'm living to the public eyes with my perspective. We have a nation, a faction, a government, a strong leader to support our words, we have something to hold dear and fight for. Something tangible.
Which is not the anarchist's case. They must sell a dream. And once, they were good at it. We hope to see it again. If nothing else, just because it's a dream nonetheless.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist.
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Jeremy Erik
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.01 20:24:00 -
[63]
Originally by: SOFcode Z777 As a loyal to the State, I wouldn't feel inspired by the anarchist leader's sermons either, but I grant you that you haven't seen her at her best yet. Inspiration? No never, a cause of chaos without order is never something we should be inspired to, but appreciation to a talent, yes. I, for one would like to read it.
She's been giving these speeches for so many years and still not at her best? Yes, I did my research, wanted to see what this SF that so many ranted on galnet was about. How many years does it take then? Ok sure, she's talented..now what? Isn't it a bit tragic to have talent and not use it for anything? Would be like the diva with a voice that could inspire tears just singing jingles for Quafe. A black hole might be pretty to look at, but it still sucks. |

SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.09.02 17:42:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Jeremy Erik She's been giving these speeches for so many years and still not at her best? Yes, I did my research, wanted to see what this SF that so many ranted on galnet was about. How many years does it take then? Ok sure, she's talented..now what? Isn't it a bit tragic to have talent and not use it for anything? Would be like the diva with a voice that could inspire tears just singing jingles for Quafe. A black hole might be pretty to look at, but it still sucks.
I'd rather take the certainty of her talent in hope that it will be used for better causes in the future. Of course I mean to service of the State but I'm sure we will agree on disagree about this particular point Mr. Erik.
But I do understand where you are coming from and it's better to see one not inspired by that dangerous dream of false utopia. I preffer to be stern and judge the cause in itself instead of the subject of the cause.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Lieutenant Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist There is no hesitation. Because a second wasted, is gone forever.
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Snakester
Caldari Blood and Money Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 11:22:00 -
[65]
HI Cosmo and Jade \o
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April Knox
COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:33:00 -
[66]
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:25:00 -
[67]
Originally by: April Knox "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
A decent critique of Heth. Do let us know when you've made good on this and summoned up the courage to leave the militia and stop serving the tyrant.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |

Khanto Thor
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:30:00 -
[68]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Mentally Unstable Enterprises, appearing to be a pirato-mercenary outfit preying on fellow militia as much as anyone else, decided to move out not long after one of their starbases was destroyed by a Star Fraction capital fleet.
Have I missed something here, MUE continue to be a thorn in the side of the Gallente Militia. We are expecting this thorn to be blunted in the not to distant future, with some expected technological changes! ...But when can we expect them to move out of the Caldari Militia?
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:00:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Khanto Thor
Have I missed something here, MUE continue to be a thorn in the side of the Gallente Militia. We are expecting this thorn to be blunted in the not to distant future, with some expected technological changes! ...But when can we expect them to move out of the Caldari Militia?
No, this is a fair point and we haven't claimed they left the Caldari Militia. The moving out refers to a particular area of operations and they did, at the time spoken about, appear to shift focus. We recognise that seems to have been temporary and therefore we can consider them to still be a viable target. We will continue to review the status of all corporations we have listed and be aware that it is not difficult for such to return to active service in the militias.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |

Victoria Ehr
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:33:00 -
[70]
applauds
I enjoy reading these self congratulatory additions from the likes of anarchists and FOOM. It shows the desperation in the opposition to the State. It shows the shallow pride of those who oppose Tibus Heth. It shows how the State war machine has adapted and strengthened even against such concerted opposition.
This thread is more of a tribute to the determination of the State. Keep writing about your victories, i will write about how the State grows stronger from them.
You will never change the State, You will never defeat the State. Surrender now before you attract the ire of Tibus Heth. -------------------------------------------- Glory to the State and Tibus Heth.
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April Knox
COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:43:00 -
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lololol picturesque dogmatism at its best!
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Azure Skyclad
Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Victoria Ehr applauds
I enjoy reading these self congratulatory additions from the likes of anarchists and FOOM. It shows the desperation in the opposition to the State. It shows the shallow pride of those who oppose Tibus Heth. It shows how the State war machine has adapted and strengthened even against such concerted opposition.
This thread is more of a tribute to the determination of the State. Keep writing about your victories, i will write about how the State grows stronger from them.
You will never change the State, You will never defeat the State. Surrender now before you attract the ire of Tibus Heth.
You're a piece of work there missus.
Are you an early SOFCode balls-up?
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Joachim Piper
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Posted - 2008.09.04 22:32:00 -
[73]
Its about time star fraction dropped its story of being some superior advanced society of "freecaptains" and just come clean that they are just another bad of anti Caldari piratical terrorists.
Or are you planning to announce your victories against the other three national militias anytime soon?
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Drykor
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.05 02:25:00 -
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Good thing we got rid of our anti-amarr image. Seems to have been replaced now though. Funny, how long will it last and what will come in its place I wonder?
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Joachim Piper
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Posted - 2008.09.05 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor Good thing we got rid of our anti-amarr image. Seems to have been replaced now though. Funny, how long will it last and what will come in its place I wonder?
No doubt you find some other small or inexperienced force to attack, legitimized by a wall of florid prose...
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joachim Piper No doubt you find some other small or inexperienced force to attack, legitimized by a wall of florid prose...
That's not the case of the Caldari Militia. We are not qualified on small neither inexperienced. And if there are inexperienced pilots, the enemy presence will aid them to gain experience. It's a benefit to the State to have their soldiers trained in such way.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist There is no hesitation. Because a second wasted, is gone forever.
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Dark Viceroy
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: SOFcode Z777
Originally by: Joachim Piper No doubt you find some other small or inexperienced force to attack, legitimized by a wall of florid prose...
That's not the case of the Caldari Militia. We are not qualified on small neither inexperienced. And if there are inexperienced pilots, the enemy presence will aid them to gain experience. It's a benefit to the State to have their soldiers trained in such way.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor Good thing we got rid of our anti-amarr image. Seems to have been replaced now though. Funny, how long will it last and what will come in its place I wonder?
And that was that after the Gallente one? I believe it was.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kovid
Originally by: Drykor Good thing we got rid of our anti-amarr image. Seems to have been replaced now though. Funny, how long will it last and what will come in its place I wonder?
And that was that after the Gallente one? I believe it was.
And before that, it was Minmatar. _
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SOFcode Z777
Caldari Human Enhancement Tech.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Viceroy If you consider the militia to not be inexperienced, then they have been learning ALL the wrong things.....
If pilots find themselves able to enlist to a faction at war, they should find themselves able to endure the consequences it will bring. Following the analogy, they should also be able to access their capabilities to fight such war. We are Capsulers, Para -Military units at service of the State, at war. We are not planetary kids playing flowers in an enchanted garden.
SOFcode z777 CEO Human Enhancement Tech. H.E.T Colonel Caldari State Mordus Legion Loyalist
There is no hesitation. Because a second wasted, is gone forever.
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