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Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:19:00 -
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Bug-Ridden wrote:Its like communism, a great idea, but the execution is runt.
You realize that it increases demand for plex right? Now how about you stop complaining and think for a moment, more demand means plex prices are going to go up. You now have in possession 20 plexes at current prices. In 2 months after everyone has bought the cards, there will be 20,000 less plex on the market from the nvidia cards alone (lets assume that people do not buy enough with RL money to make up that 20,000). You can then sell your plex for much more than you bought it for this month.
So basically, stop your complaining and actually think about how you can turn a profit from it. |
Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:27:00 -
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Vokanic wrote:ccp needs to change their marketing catchphrase: "eve is hard, but we still got a bunch of fucktards too"
And crybabies! A bigger group of whiners I've never seen.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:34:00 -
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If CCP can convince people to pay double the value of a video card, why is that CCP's fault? |
Bug-Ridden
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:50:00 -
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i really have no problem with the idea of making it possible to get stuff with your isk, but i think it would be great to hear from one of the CCP representatives how they calculated on the cards. But well we will see what comes out of all this anyways :) lets all think the best until they proove us wrong. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3466
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:51:00 -
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Sekket wrote:Nova Fox wrote:This deal isnt designed for those who buy plex to buy the card.
This deal is for players who have a crap tonn of isk and no good reasons to spend it. The Fox here has it right. It has the effect of removing a bunch of isk from the game by giving players who have piles of isk in-game a way to turn it in for real-world stuff.
Wrong Isk doesnt get removed, it just increases the velocity of isk with this deal.
Plexes are bought and resold as it is,
The rate of consumption is only equal to the number of subscribers using it to pay to play. The rate of injection is MUCH higher.
So this is more means to deduce the number of plex'es floating around.
I for one cannot wait until PLEX for the RL Nobel Exchange (Eve store) buy t-shirts eon subscription and the sorts.
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Bug-Ridden
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:56:00 -
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i just had an interesting thought, not long ago i read somewhere that CCP might have a big problem with unused PLEX, since its possible that if the game soaks up too much plexes and then all are used at once, they get a huge payment hole, maybe this is an attempt to fix this problem.
but this is just a thought. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
442
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:12:00 -
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Bug-Ridden wrote:this mechanism doesn t remove ISK from the game, it removes PLEX from the game.
Um, no. It doesn't. It encourages the purchase of plex as exampled by your declaration. It also encourages higher plex prices in relation to isk as exampled by the current rise which in turn encourages the purchase of plex. Are you seeing the pattern here? CCP doesn't give a rat's ass about how many plex are in the game. What they care about is that people are purchasing them with RL monies.
Oh, and, the deal also encourages one other thing.....dumbasses....who would pay $350 for a $180 card also as exampled by your declaration. The great egress is ------> that way. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Endeavour Starfleet
725
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:27:00 -
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On one hand I would love to be able to get an EVE themed card for PLEX. However there is a SERIOUS problem that must be addressed.
This is going to cause botting to explode. Buying a card with PLEX and then selling said card on Ebay or locally is going to be upsurdly too tempting to use bots for. And no I doubt the current ways of detecting them will even remotely slow the use of hard to detect bots that will be used.
Thus before this can happen they must take a sledgehammer to EVERY activity that can be botted in EVE and replaced with systems that you simply cant effectively use bots for. They have to effectively kill botting before this can happen or EVE will be screwed over by this. |
Sidrun
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.03.25 05:33:00 -
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Vokanic wrote:Bug-Ridden wrote:Hey Eve Community, hey CCP,
i recently heard in EVE about the Graphic Card for PLEX thing and thought wow, this is awesome, finally i will be able to use all the isk laying around in my wallet to do something useful for me. I was looking for a new graphics card for like 3 months now, but im way to broke to afford one. Well i instandly bought 20 PLEX and was all happy, but then i found out you gonna offer a 170$-ish Card for the equal worth of like 300$. I still hope you guys will take a look on the market and do way more fair prices on this deal. Maybe you just had the wrong model in hands or i just got something wrong, but a 560GTX is never worth 10Billion ISK nor 300$. Dont forget to tell me what you think about this.
And fly safe all:) So who is at fault here? You're the guy who ran out and bought 20 plex without researching wtf he was doing. You did this because omg shiny new vid card..... Do I have to say more here? OK i will You should never have children, because you're bottom of the barrel with regards to intelligence. PS send me your isk and I will get you into ___ corp with a brand new titan as a welcome gift. ..and now some plainly fucken obvious logic: The direct plex to $ cost can't be 1:1. nVidia are betting on them being able to shift the plex. Perhaps you didnt catch the point where to get one of these cards you log into a nvidia site. not ccp. Did you not figure out that there's only 100 cards for a reason? ergh. ccp needs to change their marketing catchphrase: "eve is hard, but we still got a bunch of fucktards too"
I'd rather be stupid then an a-hole.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1005
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Posted - 2012.03.25 05:43:00 -
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It's an offer.
Take it or leave it.
And since from what I heard there are only 100 for offer, if you are going to take it you'd best have the plex in your acct already. As well as be really fast when it goes live. They will go within minutes, I'm guessing.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:17:00 -
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karina wolf wrote:well...for the bigger alliances the 10bill isk price tag is nothing
"-as a token of our gratitude for loyalty and dedication we will give every officer who been with us for more then 3years a brand new graphic card"
to bad it was what, only 1000 for sale atm? i wopuld hope they do more events like this, so that eventually players who are too poor in real life to get graphics cards to keep playing eve, can at elast find a way to upgrade their computers so that eve can continue upgrading their engine and whatnot without fear of alienatinga lot fo players (besides those that have cheap omputers AND are caual, they woudl be out of luck, but seriously, casual people log on so rarely woudl anyone even miss them? especially with all the plex everyoen else is buying to sell on market so that others can get graphics cards). |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:20:00 -
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Riithi Bashere wrote:All it does is increase demand in Plexes.
The deal is bad if you account for $$ -> Plex -> Videocard. But if you have a lot of isk/bot why not RMT it into a videocard. point 1) this would be terribelf ro RMT, resale on videocards is never very good. point 2) the second PLEX starts spiking out fo control, you know wahts going to happen? MORE PEOPLE WILL BUY PLEX which will even out the supply/demand and lower the price somewhat. point 3) i wanted three points but coudlnt for the life of me come up with a third point |
Endeavour Starfleet
725
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:24:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:It's an offer. Take it or leave it. And since from what I heard there are only 100 for offer, if you are going to take it you'd best have the plex in your acct already. As well as be really fast when it goes live. They will go within minutes, I'm guessing. Mr Epeen
They will start with 100. They aren't going to do the work needed to get that program working just to do 100 cards. They will want to make it atleast a regular thing. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:04:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:It's an offer. Take it or leave it. And since from what I heard there are only 100 for offer, if you are going to take it you'd best have the plex in your acct already. As well as be really fast when it goes live. They will go within minutes, I'm guessing. Mr Epeen They will start with 100. They aren't going to do the work needed to get that program working just to do 100 cards. They will want to make it atleast a regular thing. Nariya Kentaya wrote:Riithi Bashere wrote:All it does is increase demand in Plexes.
The deal is bad if you account for $$ -> Plex -> Videocard. But if you have a lot of isk/bot why not RMT it into a videocard. point 1) this would be terribelf ro RMT, resale on videocards is never very good. point 2) the second PLEX starts spiking out fo control, you know wahts going to happen? MORE PEOPLE WILL BUY PLEX which will even out the supply/demand and lower the price somewhat. point 3) i wanted three points but coudlnt for the life of me come up with a third point There is a limit on how much can be spent in RL to buy PLEX. well, there is apparently a surplus right now anyways, as there are still always some on the market, and the higehr the isk you get the mroe desirable they seem, so the more will eb bought adn put on the amrket.
anyone who cant shell out 20 bucks a month for a PLEX to sell on amrket (not sayingt ehy SHOULD, just whether or not they ahev the ability) si obviosuly in financial trouble and should consider letting their accounts go ianctive until they egt a job that makes more then 4-digits a year. |
Christian Schneider
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:08:00 -
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It has to be a rate of less than 20$ per billion ISK because otherwise people could just create a noob account, buy ISK from illegal sources and use it to buy the graphic card. You could buy a graphic card which is worth 150$ for 100$ if ccp would offer it for 10 PLEX. This would be a massive problem. Even people who donGÇÖt play EVE would be interested in abusing that system.
Also you should not expect to actually get one of those graphic cards. There are probably thousands of players interested in buying it for 20 PLEX. It will be sold out in seconds. Maybe ccp should make it possible to apply for a graphic card and then randomly choose 100 winners. |
Ai Shun
410
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:23:00 -
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Bug-Ridden wrote:I was looking for a new graphics card for like 3 months now, but im way to broke to afford one.
Bug-Ridden wrote:Graphic Card for PLEX thing and thought wow, this is awesome, finally i will be able to use all the isk laying around in my wallet to do something useful for me
Bug-Ridden wrote:do way more fair prices on this deal
You get to pay in-game ISK for something that you cannot afford with real $$$ and complain that it is not sold at the same value?
I understand you lose the opportunity to use the ISK for a PLEX sub; but fuckit. You get something you can't afford in real life for it. And if you have the ISK to blow on this, you will be able to make that back easily enough again.
So honestly, I don't get what you're unhappy about. You cannot afford the graphics card as things stand now except by using a video game currency.
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Deckington Forgecaster
Tradesman Connection Centrum of Trade Taurus Quantum Dynamics
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:49:00 -
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WTB GTX 680
Offer 15 PLEX |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
263
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:40:00 -
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wait..... we can buy bots with plex, then trade the botters for grahics cards? Save the Miners! |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
203
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:00:00 -
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Personally, I can't wait until one of my guys suicide ganks a ship full of PLEX again. It'll be like finding a video card in the loot can. |
Romanovs
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:28:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Personally, I can't wait until one of my guys suicide ganks a ship full of PLEX again. It'll be like finding a video card in the loot can.
Bump! |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1063
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:44:00 -
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so how long until the IRS charges me income tax on isk since CCP is trying to convert it into a real currency like the linden?
three words....
slippery slope The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Ezekiel DeSangre
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.04.28 06:05:00 -
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RISE! |
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