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Mission Knight	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:30:00 - [1] So there i was, 2 weeks ago, got bored and started searching to market for randomness. Happened accross Datacores, then i wondered, if i filled all 6 slots of my 2 accounts with toons able to use 5 lvl 4 RnD agents for whatever Datacores, would it be worth it? Asked around, found a few people did that, so i began my journey, i got the required standings to Duvolle, next on the list is Core Complexion, then Boundless Creations. About halfway through the standings for CC, i asked in NPC corp chat as i was having doubts about my "get rich quick" scheme. I was then informed that Datacores have dropped in price and it would not be worth the time isk investment. Was he right? MK out
Dr Missy Fyre Industries	Posted - 2008.09.01 00:14:00 - [2] For a while you could pay for your GTC subscriptions with the isk you made with farming datacores... lets call them the good old days! In my opinion it's really only worth it now if you're doing inventing. If not then maybe for a long term investment, but don't expect it to be a get rich quick scheme.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.09.01 00:56:00 - [3] meh, why not, they pile up and over time will net you some isk :)
Avalira Caldari Pax Minor Expiscor Pario Addo Zzz	Posted - 2008.09.01 01:23:00 - [4] Consider it like Christmas every few months when you empty your datacores. I do it every 3-4 months and get around 600M, but you could get more or less depending on the fields you chose. If you want to micromanage your datacores, look for what's hot at the moment and change research fields accordingly. Just remember that to change fields you need to have the required science skills. You can always got for level 5 Research Project Management (35+ days training) to get 6 agents, although I just stayed at level 4. ------------- Selling the following: -= Nothing Yet :( =-
Hamarkon Isloan Setenta Corp	Posted - 2008.09.01 01:27:00 - [5] There will be spikes whenever they introduce new T2 stuff, since all new T2 is by invention only. Plus, once you have the standings, the income is passive. You don't need to even login those characters until you get confirmation on a new T2 release. Then send them out to collect them. There is no isk-sink in datacore farming, just a time-sink for the standings grind.
IonHammer Minmatar Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:51:00 - [6] 236 thats 36 cores a day lets say u get lucky and get 500k per thats 18 mill a day or 126 mill per week or 558 per month or 6696 a year. Now you can probably halve that number in real life but it seems worth it to me. Getting 6 agents to l4 will be a bit of a grind though.
Clair Bear Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.09.01 03:10:00 - [7] 2 months of training per alt and a mind bending amount of grinding. R&D corps rarely have good L4 combat agents so it's level 3s till you puke. So let's call it 4 months your main doens't train (hey a rhyme!) and about 80M per alt for books, implants and possibly tags. You tell me, is it worth ~60M per character slot per month?
Mahke Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.09.01 04:07:00 - [8] I got into datacore farming right before the market crashed (lol herd mentality) because I had the standings/isk for level 4's but not the SP to feel comfortable doing them. Knowing what the market turned into (and is now), I would not have done it, and would not do it again. The cost in SP (not that bad if you only do a few agents in one field, which is the proper way to go about it (lol level V)) + the standings grind (which actually ain't that bad if you know what you're doing), while exaggerated by most, is still just not worth it with current datacore prices, and I don't see them going up significantly, because people have accounts they can and will reactivate as soon as datacore prices go high enough to justify it.
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.09.01 04:18:00 - [9] It is worth if you have needed standings or acsess to someone who can get you there cheap and fast enough (like missionrunning main). In first case it's 'passive' additional income on your main where you cash in few times per year, in second case it's R&D account with 3 chars what you activate few times per year to cash in. It's not stellar income as everyone and his dog are doing it, thus some 20 h or so missiongrinding time might not be worth it in reasonable timeframe if you ahve to go out of your way and take considerable isk/h drop in the process to get standings. Depending on your return-of-investment timeframe expetation.
Creed611 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.01 05:55:00 - [10] Get your faction standing up so you don't have to grind
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.01 06:01:00 - [11] Doing it right you can get 2,5 millions for each character each day (even more witht he right datacores, but they change with time, while you skill and standing are slover to change). So you can get 450 millions every two months for account and pay a 60 day gtc with the isk with some leftover. Naturally there is the little problem of the 2 months for character needed to train the skills and the 60-150 millions (depending if you buy implants for the alts or not) isk needed to train each character.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.01 06:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Creed611 Get your faction standing up so you don't have to grind Wrong, R&D agents require standing with the corporation.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.09.01 06:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Creed611 Get your faction standing up so you don't have to grind Wrong, R&D agents require standing with the corporation. well yes, but at least he can do that with "regular" lvl3's or 4's of that corp then. especially useful when "farming" storylines
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Clair Bear 2 months of training per alt and a mind bending amount of grinding. R&D corps rarely have good L4 combat agents so it's level 3s till you puke. So let's call it 4 months your main doens't train (hey a rhyme!) and about 80M per alt for books, implants and possibly tags. You tell me, is it worth ~60M per character slot per month? Level 2/3 courier missions are just as good for this sort of thing, if you can find a cluster of agents within a single constellation - you can run a large number simultaneously with very little training (nano Sigil/Exequror is a good approach). That way you very quickly rack up a large number of storyline missions, which usually give you a big corp standing increase as well.
Kalmanaka Caldari Artifex Dynamics	Posted - 2008.09.01 23:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Creed611 Get your faction standing up so you don't have to grind Wrong, R&D agents require standing with the corporation. Wrong, R&D agents require standing with corp AND faction. Example: "You need a minimum effective corp standing of at least 4.70, in addition to an effective faction, corp or personal standing of at least 6.70 to use this agent." If you've got high faction standings then you only have to grind the corp to 4.7 instead of 6.7.
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:32:00 - [16] Originally by: Kalmanaka Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Creed611 Get your faction standing up so you don't have to grind Wrong, R&D agents require standing with the corporation. Wrong, R&D agents require standing with corp AND faction. Example: "You need a minimum effective corp standing of at least 4.70, in addition to an effective faction, corp or personal standing of at least 6.70 to use this agent." If you've got high faction standings then you only have to grind the corp to 4.7 instead of 6.7. This, though they don't 'require' the standing with the faction, you can have 6.7 with just the corp, or 6.7 with the faction and only 4.7 with the corp. Getting corp standing though is usually quicker than faction standing, so it's only really useful if you're going to a new R&D corp where you already have high faction standing. So simply put, they do require standing with the corporation, but if you have a high faction standing already they do not require your corporation standing to be as high as if you do not.
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.02 20:17:00 - [17] They dont require faction. But to answer the original question. No Its not really worth it. I have 6 level 4s and I probably wouldnt bother again.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.03 15:11:00 - [18] can't anyone do there own research anymore? lazy

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