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Styrmir
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Styrmir on 10/06/2004 00:31:36 Edited by: Styrmir on 09/06/2004 23:31:16 I just noticed this article at the Eve Guardian.
What is this about?
Who are The Gallente Union and how are they going to enforce this? 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:43:00 -
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Empire strip mining SHOULD be banned, or heavily taxed imo.
Anyway, little off-topic - about your shuttle museum that was recently destroyed, contace me ingame. I'm intereted in sponsoring a new one ;) --------
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:47:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with strip mining, as long as you're nekkid!
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Silex D'Arden
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:53:00 -
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that's why i drink windex...keeps me from streaking...
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Nonesuch
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:55:00 -
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why just pick on the miners? pvp loot drops should be non-existant, kill the huge bounties on npc cruiser and bs's, and since no one will have any isk to buy anything forget even trying to produce anything.
i usually say to each his own, but if your gonna kill off the solo miner be fair about it and kill the leet pvp peeps and everyone else.
and when thats done just go down to the electric box and throw all the breakers to off.
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Canine Fiend
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Posted - 2004.06.09 23:59:00 -
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it's a part of the game. You people need to get over it ----------------------------------------------
Proud Member of Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.06.10 00:16:00 -
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Rather than whining about stripmining just get CCP to change the way ore respawns so it keeps coming back in equal quantities, and at a faster rate than now. I mean, even one or two miner cruisers can scarf up half a belt in a few hours mining. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |

MooKids
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Posted - 2004.06.10 00:18:00 -
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Or how about the lazy carebear battleship strip miners get out of high security empire space, and go mine in some real systems, leaving the high security empire space for the newbies! -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.06.10 00:27:00 -
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Quote: Or how about the lazy carebear battleship strip miners get out of high security empire space, and go mine in some real systems, leaving the high security empire space for the newbies!
Yes and how about pirates not returning fire till I've done away with half their hull.
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gk0r
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Posted - 2004.06.10 00:29:00 -
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There is absolutly nothing wrong with strip mining.
Too all that complain this is a great reason to get out of 1.0 security space From the looks of it you consider 1.0 to be empire space and all else non empire space. Well let me tell you there are HEAPS and HEAPS upon HEAPS of asteroid belts in secure space (0.5+) that you can use. If you're still in Duripant or whichever system you started with well - there is something really wrong with that.
Noobs ought to be enouraged to step out of Oursalaert / Luminaire once in a while at least ! ---------------------- I make up with stupidity for the rest of my corporation.
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Nonesuch
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Posted - 2004.06.10 00:51:00 -
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its funny how only the gankers complain of strip mining in empire, ive never seen a single post from a newbie about it, although all the concern comming from the no skill fleet gankers for the newbies welfare in the game is very heart touching.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.06.10 01:03:00 -
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If it's just gonna go down to the whine cellar - Here's like 4 threads on it you can look over...
Thread One
Thread 2 - Love this one!
More of the same.
GENESIS
Enjoy 
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Mephorios
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Posted - 2004.06.10 02:50:00 -
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It would be easy for them to combat strip mining.
Not sure on response time from Concord mind you, but they could rig up missle boat kestrels and fire away.
My favourite idea though, especially if they're macro mining, is to simply take from thier cans before the sad, sad macroed indies can get to it. 
Then there is always the declaration of war, but that's messy...
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Nonesuch
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Posted - 2004.06.10 03:10:00 -
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theres plenty of ways to do anything you really want to do in this game, but the one i loath is to admit you cant do it yourself and then run to ccp
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.06.10 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Styrmir
Who are The Gallente Union and how are they going to enforce this? 
(a) a bunch of drooling halfwit muppets (b) bumper stickers
JP Beauregard
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Exarch
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Posted - 2004.06.10 03:27:00 -
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I think Battleships and cruisers should not be allowed in .9+ system belts. In the system i first started there was like 6 belts, and every single one was completely empty. If it respawns faster it will only encourage people in Apocs to mine there.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.06.10 04:34:00 -
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I think this is a great idea. It's about time someone did something about AFK miners and the like. It's disgusting.
People in Battleships who mine in 1.0 systems are just lazy and downright rude.
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Adriana
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Posted - 2004.06.10 06:12:00 -
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Of all the people who should be shot and burned Strip miners are way way way down on my personal list I'm afraid.
With all the ore thieves, corp thieves, scammers, alt griefers, and pirates in Eve some of you have nothing better to do than gripe about miners?
There are a very few starting systems, these are all 1.0 space I believe. Just make it so you can't mine those in a battleship and enough said.
As long as the newbies have ore to mine I could personally care less whether some guy strip mines a system. It's not like there is a surplus of low end minerals these days anyways.
As far as the afk mining goes, ok, thats lame, but no more lame than being an ore thief of said account. If you wanna do something about them, declare war and blow their afk opperation up. If they are in the newbie corp still, blow up their cans.
You would be far better served though to announce the afk opperation in as many channels as possible, load the nearest station with kestrals, and blow up the ore thieves as they show up. THATS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte |

Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2004.06.10 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Silex D'Arden that's why i drink windex...keeps me from streaking...

If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.06.10 07:23:00 -
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OMFG, MUST RESSSSIST TEH FLAME......
Stop whining and get over it! I agree to indy afk-mining being lame but if you ever tried Apocalypse afk-mining, it only works for 60 seconds... And no, I never did any of those in 1.0.
You think I'm going to mine veldspar in deepspace, then haul the **** to Empire through bottlenecks camped by people who run when you go after them? Get a ******* clue!   
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.06.10 07:54:00 -
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Yes, get the f over it already.
There is NO afk BS mining, if there is, it's macro'd and you steal the ore. Easy as that.
An afk mining indy is fun too, jut bump the dman thing out of range of its asteroid and you've fixed it.
Last but not least, there's literally gazzilions of roids in 0.5+ systems left unmined. Get yourself 3 medium drones and you can mine the lot of it, just get off your lazy ass in your 'HQ' 0.9 highway system and go into some less travelled empire space for chrissakes.
Now to the real thing. I hadn't mined in about -4 months, and that includes ark, but this week i've been jonin my corpmates STRIPmining in a 0.6 and it's even fun at times.... _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Arnt
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Posted - 2004.06.10 07:58:00 -
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I am amazed that people with negative IQ dare to post what they think are opinions.
BS forbidden in 1.0, force those guys to 0.0, LMAO !!!!
In Gank - (sorry : Eve), you cannot gank - (sorry : move) to 0.0 unless your gang (sorry : friends) are the one ganking (sorry : holding) the chokepoint.
All those claiming choke points are nothing to deal with are utter and absolute morons.
You cannot get strip miners to 0.0. They will not go there, whatever you can think of.
Eve = Ganking. An industrial ship has an absolute 0 chance of surviving ganking, this means miners have a 0 chance of surviving ganking.
Chokepoints kill any attempt to mine in the 0.0 systems near of empire. The only way to mine in 0.0 is to be member of an NPC like #territory name# alliance.
Eve PvP = ganking. Eve map = ganking points. Eve players organize in ganking groups.
Eve does not have pvpers, it only has griefers who fail to understand that some people don't love being instakilled.
Basically, everyone asking for a ban of strip mining, a ban of mining BS from secure space, and whatever, is a little punk who just want fresh victims to sodomize.
Eve: griefer's ganking dream.
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luriano
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:05:00 -
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Strip mining owns everywhere, thats whats kewl being a miner lads.... seeing an entire belt DIES!! just because u can :) now stop this silly whining and move on... Macro mining is an out of game thing so its a cheat and should be banned, so instead of whining report the afk miners to ccp, surely they can deal with that matter :)
now move along, theres nothing more to be mined :P
ps. why be punished because you are in a nice apocalypse with 8 miner II. is this jalosy ???? well WORK HARDER, GET UR OWN ISK AND UR OWN DAMN BS.
/emote moves into a 1.0 just because i can mmmm Veldspare CRAP do uu really think any miner would want to mine veldspare when theres other more precious stuff to be mined LOL LOL this is not bs drivers its cruisers... ( some corps having a major corp ops too, may have bs. )
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:16:00 -
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Arnt: just how many times can you get the word gank into a single post? And just how often do you undock?
My personal opinion, 0.9 and 1.0 systems should be the safe havens for the newbies, that includes having ore to mine. And battleships striping those belts is a bit ridiculous. HOWEVER I visited luminaire 2 days back, went to a random belt and there was a complete belt with decent sized roids, that a newbie wouldn't strip in a month. Secondly, in <0.9 stripmining by anything and anyone is quite valid and actually needed, where else do you wanna get the millions upon millions of tri you need for construction? 0.0? sry but that's that little risk vs reward thing, if you take the risk in 0.0 you wanna bring home mega not tri. I mine veldspar in a 0.4 when I'm short on tri, and the one time I lost a indy was in a 0.4 filled with veldspar lost 3 locals big risk for a load of veldspar worth a couple of k. Off the noobs? Spread all over in tiny amounts so you spend all day collecting it, when you can pull it in way way faster ( it's a complete pain to move in even the bests of indies ) ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:19:00 -
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Nothings like parking the MegaT after a stressful week with agents pushing me here and there, and firing up the apoc and go mining while drinking beer. Rats are no problem when we have a swarm of drones protecting us.
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Arnt I am amazed that people with negative IQ dare to post what they think are opinions.
You sir, must then have balls of steel  [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |

Sara Parker
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Myal Terego
Originally by: Arnt I am amazed that people with negative IQ dare to post what they think are opinions.
You sir, must then have balls of steel 
Or trit maybe?
Goodness gracious, great balls of tritanium!  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way. |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Arnt I am amazed that people with negative IQ dare to post what they think are opinions.
BS forbidden in 1.0, force those guys to 0.0, LMAO !!!!
In Gank - (sorry : Eve), you cannot gank - (sorry : move) to 0.0 unless your gang (sorry : friends) are the one ganking (sorry : holding) the chokepoint.
All those claiming choke points are nothing to deal with are utter and absolute morons.
You cannot get strip miners to 0.0. They will not go there, whatever you can think of.
Eve = Ganking. An industrial ship has an absolute 0 chance of surviving ganking, this means miners have a 0 chance of surviving ganking.
Chokepoints kill any attempt to mine in the 0.0 systems near of empire. The only way to mine in 0.0 is to be member of an NPC like #territory name# alliance.
Eve PvP = ganking. Eve map = ganking points. Eve players organize in ganking groups.
Eve does not have pvpers, it only has griefers who fail to understand that some people don't love being instakilled.
Basically, everyone asking for a ban of strip mining, a ban of mining BS from secure space, and whatever, is a little punk who just want fresh victims to sodomize.
Eve: griefer's ganking dream.
The return of WhiteDwarf!
Run for the hills!  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: Arnt
Eve: griefer's ganking dream.
The return of WhiteDwarf!
Run for the hills! 
I've been thinking the same thing about this guy, Vice.  -
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.06.10 08:36:00 -
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Arnt seems especially negative today..
But i have to agree, mining veld in 0.0 is just stupid. Not because you get ganked (which you indeed might), but because you can mine better stuff while you are there.
Sometimes however, people do mine it in 0.0 because they need it there. It's not actually hard to do that whith a small group of people. So 0.0 space would be better for empire based people that want to mine stuff, not considering the ganking.
And can we stop complaining about chokepoints please. I am not a fulltime player at all, but i still was able to get in and out of 0.0 with a hold full of mega, zyd and loot fine and dandy. And fyi I flew a damn slow battleship. So let's quit the chokepoint theories already. _______________________________________________
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