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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2008.09.04 01:02:00 -
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Actually I dont have a problem with the fact that they wanna put empire a little safer.
BUT
They should underline their risk vs reward PR.
Why should a mission runner have high rewards in absolut safety?
I say, distribute the mission levels accordingly.
lvl 1 missions in 0.0-1.0 sec
lvl 2 missions in 0.0-.7
lvl 3 missions in 0.0- .4 sec
lvl 4 missions in 0.0- 0.2 sec
lvl 5 missions in faction 0.0 only.
Easy as that. No risk, no reward. Empire should be a safe trading place.
regards
c0rn1
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 04/09/2008 17:55:55
 Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: c0rn1
Empire should be a safe trading place.
Now there's a contradiction in terms if I ever saw oneā 
I do not see the part of the contradiction. Let people ship their stuff under Police protection anywhere in Empire. I don't mind. But don't give the big fishs out for free.
- If I wanna have my big fishs in mining I gotta go to 0.0 to get the real stuff. (either moon or roids)
- If I wanna earn some money with ratting I gotta go to 0.0 to make some real bounties drop in on my wallet.
=> So I fail to grasp the fact why people - according to the RvsR policy by CCP - get free big fishs in form of lvl 4 missions in police protected territory? That's the contradiction I see in CCP's ruleset.
* If you wanna earn cash, you gotta risk some of your possessions. Eve is not a SOLOPLAYERWTFBBQIAMUBERRICH game.
* If you wanna do lvl 4 missions you gotta go where it might hurt you. Find a corp if you can't stand against the odds coming up to you by yourself.
This is a _massively_ MULTIPLAYER online game. MULTI and PLAYER. If you connect that with massive you get the meaning of Eve.
Like I said above. I am ok if they make the police stronger and remove the insurance. But on the other hand remove the blanko cash cheque given into players hands in form of high level missions there.
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c0rn1
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shagrath Neptune
When i did lvl 4 missions, I lost a considerable amount of Battleships and rigs because of stupid, noobish mistakes that will eventually happen to any mission runner if they run lvl 4's long enough.
Things such as forgetting about a frig npc scrambling you before it is too late, not managing your cap/tank correctly. These things can happen more often than you think.
A loss of a BS is a setback to a mission runner. How much of a setback is determined by how much they pimped their ships and how much time has gone by in between losses. I personally only used t2 fitted BS whcih cost me around 200-250 million with rigs but that is still a chunk of change when you lose it.
To sum up, people like you who say lvl 4 missions are risk free are pretty clueless.
So you call me clueless while you admitted losing ships because of misstakes a sentence before? And due to this you actually admit if you would be a smart mission runner you'd not lose ships and have a free blanko cheque in your hand?
that, sir, was a priceless answer. I give you that.
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c0rn1
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c0rn1
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shagrath Neptune
Yes I think you are clueless.
I don't see how me losing a few ships in some missions has anything to do with your lack of knowledge on the subject. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
You admitted yourself that you did misstakes running the missions. Further you pointed out that it is hard to make level 4 missions. Only thing hard is to fight the boredom. There's no scrambler frig which can't be get a grip on with some small drones in your raven.
A 3 month old alt character can run lvl 4 missions in a raven.
I made mission running in a 0.3 system [Reynire] when my character was pretty new. Made my fair share of ISK there and had the pirates in my neck.
I didn't lose too many ships to pirates to make it NOT profitable. local helps alot and a corp which you are in. we settled in that area at that time. Made corp mining, pirate hunting to get used to PvP and mission running if we needed some extra cash or where not enough to do something else.
Originally by: Shagrath Neptune
Thing is, I was a "smart mission runner." I made enough isk off of it to not have to do it anymore. I made enough capital from it to allow me to make isks in a different profession.
See, you still made a good amount of ISK by missions without any player interaction. You played it as a solo game. Today you got constellation channels to warn you of pirates. I didn't and still were profitable with lvl 3 (!didnt have level 4 at that time!).
Originally by: Shagrath Neptune
However, it took a long time and it wasn't a "blank check." You should be banned from the forums just for saying something so idiotic. The time it takes to go from a noob in the game to the top of a lvl 4 mission chain is hardly a blank check. Not to mention equip, skill training times necessary then the time to actually do all those missions.
It is a blank check since everyone else who gets the nerves ripped out of his backbone by the boredom mission running does has to go to low sec or better 0.0 to get some ISK on his wallet. They have to interact with other players' evil or good intention.
Be it mining, be it ratting in a profitable area.
That is what makes a MMOG. If you don't like it I recommend Freelancer or some sort of solo player product.
Yeah, the hard part of getting to the top of a lvl 4 mission chain is to read worth of 2 pages on one of your favourite eve fan sites and a 3 month old character in a raven. I still have a raven sitting in Frarn to do level 4 missions when I need some extra cash. Cashs out at 30-40 million/hour with an additional character salvaging all the wrecks.
That, you can hardly call a TOUGH time earning some cash.
Originally by: Shagrath Neptune
You are one of clueless souls who believes that time in the game isn't worth anything right?
I bet you think the minerals you get from asteroids are free too.....right? 
I had my fair share of a start in eve a couple years ago and I managed it. Why shouldn't others? Sitting in Empire and earning ludicrous amounts of ISK by rince and repeat without interacting with other players is what makes an MMOG for you?
Eve is/was intented as pure Player versus/with Players and a risk vs reward policy. Why should you have 0.0 rats, bounties and loot in empire for free?
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c0rn1
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