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Evanade
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Posted - 2008.09.02 19:53:00 -
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11y/o and guns, and you think its a good idea? I think we disagree. |
Evanade
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Posted - 2008.09.02 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Evanade on 02/09/2008 20:48:00
 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Evanade
11y/o and guns, and you think its a good idea? I think we disagree.
It's understandable for you to think that since your kind tend to be afraid of your own shadow, so much to the point that your even banning knives as they are horrible weapons of destruction.
But as you can see even an 11 yo girl does not fear the firearm. She understands it and it's capabilities and accepts responsibility for it. She learned about it and how to properly use it.
11y/o knows nothing of responsibility, let alone able to understand what the thing does or 'is capable of'. Dont act like you have the moral highground because you don't.
I'm not gonna bother with you anymore, but frankly, you couldn't be more wrong about me. I do not agree with populistic decisions like the one's you linked, but then again i fail to see the relevance of it to this thread or to me as i have never made any remark about blades or knives nor do i live in the uk.
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Evanade
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Posted - 2008.09.02 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
The 'jew conspiracy' comment was entirely racist, and religious hate as well.
Because religions never hate on anyone for anything, rite? |
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Posted - 2008.09.02 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Overseer Aliena
Originally by: Evanade
11y/o knows nothing of responsibility,
I pity your children, they lack the parents teachings of how to be responsible. It's no wonder you have so many youth getting in trouble.
I have no kids, but
- responsibility in keeping her room tidy and behaving nice at school? check
- responsibility over life and death? not quite its kind of a different league than what an 11y/o deals with in daily life. children know nothing of that, why do you think child soldiers are so popular a tool among african warlords? they kill without remorse and without hesitation.. |
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Evanade on 03/09/2008 06:59:35
Originally by: Ruze
Actually, if you dig into the writings of those same founding fathers, home defense was rarely spoken of. The Right to Bear Arms was put in place to allow the American people the means to overthrow their government, should it ever become tyrannic (lets not forget that these gentlemen just got through with a revolution of their own, and could recognize that no government was perfect and free of the transition of tyranny).
I've met several people who kept on repeating that line, but at the same time practiced silent obedience in every way to that same government. Kind of ironic
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Evanade on 03/09/2008 07:15:29
Originally by: Sodium Phosphate
To say that they do it without remorse is pretty heartless.
Actually, it's pretty much fact. Show them how to do it young enough, get them high/stoned/drunk and they will do anything to anyone without realising the consequences, and thus, without remorse. Small children are 'programmed' to take anything an adult tells them for fact and accept it without questioning. Start young enough and the possibilities are endless. (see: religious indoctrination)
While everyone is responsible for his/her own actions, realising the consequences of those actions is something quite different IMO. While the little lady may know how to take it apart or how it functions internally, she is still miles away from knowing, let alone understanding what death and injury mean.
Please don't misunderstand me. I like firearms to the sense that they are complicated mechanical devices and i've always had an attraction to those, but fortunatly i've only used them in games so far. This may sound a little far fetched or geeky or w/e but i can love or hate an FPS game solely based on how realistic the weapons department is, even though i have never held any myself nor have the ambition to do so in the future.
As sting once sung:
It takes more than combat gear to make a man
It takes more than a license to own a gun
It takes more than knowledge of or dexterity with said gun to own it. Bearing arms is something that in my opinion should not be taken lightly, because it puts one in a highly unnatural situation, one that makes killing into something that takes little skill or involvement. I am *not* saying that using a gun is 'easy', but any idiot can but in a mag, aim it, and pull the trigger.
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