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Moirae Arachnea
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:01:00 -
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other than some minor issues of placement, my Overview works fine. Didn't lose anything.
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Fyrkraag
Caldari
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:52:00 -
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My best guess is their testing model does a poor job mimicking the live environment. You're going to have things like stale cache folders and unique positioning choices.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get the Default overview tab back? :)
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 03/09/2008 06:53:57
 Originally by: Nova Fox
if you launch eve from the auto patcher it will nuke your settings.
close launcher
start eve normally after you closed teh launcher
tah dah settings saved.
Not true..or at least not neccessary. I always launch eve from the installer and I haven't lost my settings in a long time. In fact the only time I ever lost them was when everyone did presumably because CCP changed the data structures.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:11:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Fyrkraag
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get the Default overview tab back? :)
Create a custom tab and call it default 
The only other way is to have no other custom tabs.
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Fifinella
Caldari
Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:18:00 -
[35]
coughcoughhttp://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=805516coughcough
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Viliny
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:38:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Amateratsu
Had to download and install the full client, over 1.2 gig which took 15 minutes to download
Isn't it awesome how rediculous this statement would have been even 5 years ago?
Sorry, just came to mind when I read your post.
It truly is... i remember downloading {a certain game that was 80mb in size} on a modem, that took 2 nights of alarm clock every 2 hours to check if it was still going :)
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:44:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Amateratsu
Had to download and install the full client, over 1.2 gig which took 15 minutes to download
Isn't it awesome how rediculous this statement would have been even 5 years ago?
Sorry, just came to mind when I read your post.
tsk tsk rediculous ;-)
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:46:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Viliny
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Amateratsu
Had to download and install the full client, over 1.2 gig which took 15 minutes to download
Isn't it awesome how rediculous this statement would have been even 5 years ago?
Sorry, just came to mind when I read your post.
It truly is... i remember downloading {a certain game that was 80mb in size} on a modem, that took 2 nights of alarm clock every 2 hours to check if it was still going :)
Dude, I remember *typing in games in hex digits (machine code + loader) for days/weeks from magazines when I was at school*
Wusses, complaining about download speeds nowdays...
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:50:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Viliny
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Amateratsu
Had to download and install the full client, over 1.2 gig which took 15 minutes to download
Isn't it awesome how rediculous this statement would have been even 5 years ago?
Sorry, just came to mind when I read your post.
It truly is... i remember downloading {a certain game that was 80mb in size} on a modem, that took 2 nights of alarm clock every 2 hours to check if it was still going :)
Dude, I remember *typing in games in hex digits (machine code + loader) for days/weeks from magazines when I was at school*
Wusses, complaining about download speeds nowdays...
I remember my first hard drive. ST225. I don't think it was ever more than half full. 10MB. Sheesh. I write programs that occupy more memory than that these days 
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[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Viliny
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:52:00 -
[40]
if it's any good for street cred with you guys i also used to type in commands to start games and run games from c-cassettes :)
Think i was programming on a Sony MXN(?) to produce lines and colours on the screen
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Evanade
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:20:00 -
[41]
my overview and drone folders are good but all the windows are unpinned again and in random places ><
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:21:00 -
[42]
What are you guys talking about?
Did you ever had to use stone tablets to program your puter? 
As to this issue its just a matter of willingness to solve this. |
Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:40:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Evanade
my overview and drone folders are good but all the windows are unpinned again and in random places ><
Same here, except the "random places" bit — they were all neatly stacked on top of eachother in a biiiig pile at the centre of my screen. 
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Confuzer
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:45:00 -
[44]
I am the last one to criticize fellow programmers. But in this case.
Guys... damn...
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:47:00 -
[45]
I hope i loose my settings, i can then choose a new oclor, set up the overview more efficiently etc.
And it takes, gosh, 5 minutes of my life...how will i ever live
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Akikya
Amarr
Module Repossession Services
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Posted - 2008.09.03 09:14:00 -
[46]
If this has been happening fo so long, why do you continue to delude yourselves by thinking it's not desired behavior? Is there a statement from CCP telling us that this is all one big bug and that our settings should be persisted?
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Fennicus
Amarr
Heracles.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 09:22:00 -
[47]
You do realise that if they fixed this, the patch for it would... delete your overview settings?
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Hel O'Ween
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:01:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Market Checkerr
lets break it down nice and easy for the OP
1. Launch Eve normally
2. Download patch
3. Install Patch
4. When the Patch has finished installing and it asks you if you want to launch Eve-Online, you close the window
5. Repeat Step 1
Now your settings are not nuked
Which didn't work this time. That's my standard way of handling patches. Never start the client off of the patcher, because the client is started without any parameters that you might have added to your standard EVE link.
I also always save my settings folder before patching. Restoring it didn't make a difference this time, thought. All windows were heavily misplaced, which is really annoying.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:09:00 -
[49]
Originally by: fuze
What are you guys talking about?
Did you ever had to use stone tablets to program your puter?
Well my dad can still read punched tape. ;-P
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:10:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
I hope i loose my settings, i can then choose a new oclor, set up the overview more efficiently etc.
And it takes, gosh, 5 minutes of my life...how will i ever live
Let's hope you won't remember it on your deathbed, when you draw your last breaths ... You'll be cursing CCP for wasting 5 minutes you'd love to have then. ;-)
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Zansatsja
Caldari
NED-Clan
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:15:00 -
[51]
you will never loose you BM's cause they are stalled on the eve server...other settings are stalled on your computer.
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Xiaodown
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:44:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: fuze
What are you guys talking about?
Did you ever had to use stone tablets to program your puter?
Well my dad can still read punched tape. ;-P
Way before my time, but I recently worked as a sysadmin for a CS department at a university, and one of the older professors gave me some blank punch-cards he had laying around, with the university watermark on them. I felt like I was being given a relic from a different age. I use them for bookmarks, now.
As to the topic here, yeah, it's annoying to set up overview yet again. I wish there was a nice EXPORT OVERVIEW button that would spit out an XML file or something, but... it doesn't take too long to set up, and I've just accepted it as a fact of life now. That XML thing would be cool, though, it would allow FC's to hand out XML files so that everyone could see the same things. I still get caught with like "OK EVERYONE LOAD UP YOUR ASSAULT FRIGS ONLY OVERVIEW!" and I'm scrambling to set it up.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 03/09/2008 14:00:11
It wouldn't take a great deal for CCP to have a backup and restore function for the settings in the login screen of the client, maybe even and automatic backup pre-patch download and restore when patched and launched again. I did it manually with batch files and I have not got a clue what essential files are needed so I backed up everything.
Having said that, I did have a problem with the patcher when it suddenly decided that res.stuff didn't exist any more so it couldn't patch it but I have two clients installed in different locations so that helped. Funny that it was working fine when I launched Eve so the file had to exist to launch it before the patch.
Closed the patcher and launched from the desktop icon (I learned that trick over two years ago) and my settings were fine.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:08:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
I hope i loose my settings, i can then choose a new oclor, set up the overview more efficiently etc.
And it takes, gosh, 5 minutes of my life...how will i ever live
I hope you're not a programmer. Unfortunately with an attitude like that I suspect that you are.
If you let users specify their preferences then you should do everything in your power to honour those preferences for ever more. Otherwise - why bother in the first place?
If more software developers took pride in the software they produced the computing world would be a far better and safer place. I'm a software developer and I urge everyone not to accept second best from my profession. You wouldn't accept it from an architect.
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[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:30:00 -
[55]
I just had my windows rearranged a bit and.... lost an overview tab (just one)
All jokes aside, this settings thing is getting rediculous. How can you have faith on them to fix more important stuff 
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
if you launch eve from the auto patcher it will nuke your settings.
close launcher
start eve normally after you closed teh launcher
tah dah settings saved.
Never had an issue with this, i always do it.
Eve does appear to effect others by doing this tho, the client is very odd come patch time.
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