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Aileren
Aliastra
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:17:00 -
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So, actually looking the guy up on the net, by what I can gather, he doesn't seem to be terribly suicidal. And he really likes **** jokes. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:33:00 -
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Nuela wrote:Oh wow!
I've been looking at this stuff.
Mittani is screwed. CCP is going to crucify him.
Doubtful.
Here's what might happen. Mittens offers up a token apology, life goes on.
Mittens either steps down from CSM or gets removed. After a period of protest from the Goons in Empire, making thousands of people's game life a nightmare, the goons get a new rep and chair, life goes on.
Other than some mea culpa's I don't see much happening.
For all the Mad Bro's. In this game that basicly encourages bad behavior, I want all of you including to OP to post logs of every time you've been outrageously outraged over bad conduct. I want to be sure that every time you've heard a comment like this in voice coms or in chat directed at anyone that you posted a thread calling for their ban. I want to see your cyberbullying police petitions over every rascist, or homophobic slur uttered on coms. I want signed affidavits attesting the fact that YOU HAVE NEVER SAID A BAD WORD OR ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS INNAPPROPRIATE ON THE INTERNET. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:46:00 -
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GodsVervloek wrote:Trying to convince someone to commit suicide is criminal. In most countries The Mittani would be charged with the following (if the person in question actually commited suicide):
Aiding and abetting, accessory before the fact, and if they wanted to push it, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, or homicide.
What you would be doing is advocating someone to take their own life which is homicide.
And this irresponsible 'child' is the head of our new CSM?
Arroggant, loudmouth p***k!
Yes, but you'd have to prove actual malice. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:26:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Very short minded action from The Mittani and should be punished by CCP (do you realy like such guys in your CSM @CCP?)
In addition his call might even be against laws (this part: "... if you want to make the guy kill himself ...") and so it wouldn't be a CCP problem anymore but a problem of real jurisdiction in the US.
So US guys ... why not simply institute legal proceedings against against him ... or inform the US police about his behavior?
It doesn't matter if he write flyers, do phonecalls, uses a fanfest or forum for his call. At minimum it's "call for harassment" (don't know if illegal in the US, in my country it is) and if it goes bad for The Mittani it's "calling for murder" (which would mean up to 8 years real prison where I live).
@The Mittani, realy REALY stupid action
You scamed yourselve with this ;).
Have to prove actual malice instead of drunken laughing braggadocchio |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:34:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out... The Mittani is retired. LOL retired is how Americans say disbarred ? Mr Epeen 
Was the guy his client or something? I'm confused. Was all that actually attorney - client communication? |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:39:00 -
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Duvida wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly? I don't think that there will be much left of this 'career'. The media is involved. Right at the moment of this post, it's only MMO-news sites. But as cyber-bullying has been a tragic issue for some time now, the major outlets will likely have articles on it as well. Politicial attention will be gained, and not favorably. This is all going to happen if nothing further occurs. And we hope that the cyberbully victim does get help, heals and is able to work out a better path of life for himself.
The cyber victim seems to be both mad and amused. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:41:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out... I'd be interested to see the regulations that control what a lawyer can say while he is on vacation. Link please? Actually depending upon the state you can get disbarred for behavior... Not in the capacity of doing your job. Like you can't even take the bar exam if you have prior records etc etc. I say go old school and let em punch it out in 9 rounds of bar knuckle boxing... Couple O pasty nerds going at it.
Yes but it usually has to be far more serious than drunken craptalking about a game of internet spaceships, and more serious like you're going to prison and can no longer perform your duties to your clients. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:53:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:Xython wrote:Random thought: What's Iceland's Cyber Bullying law state about this? Since this took place in Iceland? And thus American law means diddly ******* SQUAT.
What's that? Iceland doesn't have one?
Sucks to be you, pubbie morons! Looks like you're stuck with the Mittani Mandate for another year. Since, you know, HE GOT MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE CSM.
CCP's Atlanta office might open them up to US law...
Where'd you get your law degree?
They're going to prosecute Mittens, but right now they're too busy dealing with Andrew W. K., and Timbaland, oh and Reginald Edison
http://twitter.com/#!/J_Rock_daddy/statuses/145880784237105152
oh and this girl too
http://twitter.com/#!/adoringomez/status/184369892735197185
her too
http://twitter.com/#!/ItsSLI
Sorry, I think they're just too backed up right now to get to internet spaceships, once they've gotten though the backlog of twitter I'm sure they'll get to him. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:14:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:wow did 50 pages get deleted from this thread?!?! Here's a website from the characters bio whom mittens wanted people to hunt down http://thundershyne.posterous.com/getting-my-new-eye I guess his ex wife went blind or something? Unless I got the name wrong ( sorta doubtful mittens spelled it out )
Ah so to protest cyberbullying, you post his real life info. Time to investigate you. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:17:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly? Neither since he didn't do anything wrong. Wrong, He did something wrong, he tried to start an event to get someone to kill themselves, that is wrong. It does not matter how you spin it, it is wrong to try and push someone to kill themselves. PERIOD. End of Debate. Your parents failed as parents if you do not understand someting as simple as this. Everyone should know right from wrong at this point in their life, if not your parents were bad parents. It is wrong to try and gather a group of people who's goal is to push someone to kill themselves. How is that not wrong? Reguardless of this being a video game or not, trying to get someone to kill themselves is WRONG. You need to get a clue. Idiots like you are the problem with the world, too dumb to know how stupid they are.
Prove actual malice please. |
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Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:18:00 -
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Mors Magne wrote:This is a public relations disaster for CCP.
They must permanently ban Alexander Gianturco (Mittani) - CCP need to send a strong message.
So fanfest was actually virtual and totally in game. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:19:00 -
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Muestereate wrote:Orkasm wrote:Muestereate wrote:I'm going with assisted suicide. Kevorkian spent jail time but only after he was brash enough to push the button himself. That is not to say he wasn't tried over and over again. He blustered about his invulnerability also. Justice was finally served. The bad publicity lasted decade
It is definitely interesting to study the case law in different states or nations. The lower courts always find it appalling and convict pretty easily depending on locale. It seems to be a law that needs to be clarified before the arrests stop. It would seem be natural to mans and courts common law that someone help or not encourage someone to do this
Now if a region, over a course of time, develops laws allowing it, only then do the people accede their need to intervene and rescue. Some laws are well defined only allowing a doctor to do this, some allow counselors. Places like Iceland don't seem to have any laws and seem kind of backwards about tit. Perhaps it goes on, maybe its an old custom to dump depressives into the ocean during the long nites and they just don't talk about it. Then their are the laws of the depressed persons locale and can tele-kevorkian (c) methods be allowed or more likely, are they specifically tolerated
Jurisdiction will play a part. It would seem our Goonievorkian (c) needs asylum to protect himself from extradition to some backwater swamp or mountaintop somewhere in the world where his brashness and disregard for human life will not found to be so amusing
And then there is the issue of CCP's liablity. I'm reminded of a recent local case. It seems a prominent football coach had "looked the other way" It did not work out well once the press got a hold of it. People in the leadership positions were stripped of positions pride and standings in the community because they were leaders that ignored egregious behavior. The reverberations are still being felt with witch hunts. I had coffee yesterday with a woman that must now sue her state employer. After her boss and wife were busted for selling dope, she was let go because it was shown she was aware and because she never turned them in she was fired
If there are no laws specifically allowing flagrantly bad behaviors and such these consequences could happen in this instance also. CCP must look to the legal problems this presents to it but also to the marketing hurdles that could grow out of ignoring this behavior. Look after their own positions and Even Iceland's "BRAND" image
Think well CCP, Only a proactive move at this point can protect you. Where did you get your Law degree? Virginia
Demand a refund. |
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