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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:41:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:There was precident in some European case
The Judge acknowledged virtual property would be protected as real property in a case of 'bullying' where someone had been maliciuosly targeted and there Ingame property destroyed
The difference is very vast and very simple.
The aforementioned was targeted to cause harassment. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
329
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:43:00 -
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As I say wether CCP encouage and promote such behaviour is of no concequence and would most likely not be seen as a defence, also it might infract CCP in this should the 'victims' state deteriote and he ends up toe tagged
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Ender Karazaki
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:43:00 -
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I think Americans make the law up as they go along. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
329
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:45:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:There was precident in some European case
The Judge acknowledged virtual property would be protected as real property in a case of 'bullying' where someone had been maliciuosly targeted and there Ingame property destroyed The difference is very vast and very simple. The aforementioned was targeted to cause harassment.
In both cases the victims where delibaretly targeted to cause undue mental and emoitanal distress, I fail to see the diffrence
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Orkasm
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:48:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:There was precident in some European case
The Judge acknowledged virtual property would be protected as real property in a case of 'bullying' where someone had been maliciuosly targeted and there Ingame property destroyed The difference is very vast and very simple. The aforementioned was targeted to cause harassment. In both cases the victims where delibaretly targeted to cause undue mental and emoitanal distress, I fail to see the diffrence
The difference?
The claimant in this situation is yet to have any input in the situation, Most likely he/she/it is not suicidal and was just blowing smoke out of its ass. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
330
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:50:00 -
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Orkasm wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:There was precident in some European case
The Judge acknowledged virtual property would be protected as real property in a case of 'bullying' where someone had been maliciuosly targeted and there Ingame property destroyed The difference is very vast and very simple. The aforementioned was targeted to cause harassment. In both cases the victims where delibaretly targeted to cause undue mental and emoitanal distress, I fail to see the diffrence The difference? The claimant in this situation is yet to have any input in the situation, Most likely he/she/it is not suicidal and was just blowing smoke out of its ass.
I'm not actually sure that matters, and it may not be only a civil case, the authorities may choose to intervene in such a case
And as I say the fact this behaviour is 'institualtionlised' will most likely not be a defence as in the same way as college hazing is treated
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Orkasm
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:51:00 -
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Orkasm wrote:Stop Posting.
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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
330
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:53:00 -
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Please dude at least have the due respect to our hosts and lie like everyone else and tag your post 'not empty quoting' 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Grumpy Owly
409
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:53:00 -
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Ender Karazaki wrote:I think Americans make the law up as they go along.
Based on tax returns and what the expected personal expenditure will be that year I think? 
Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5773
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:54:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Everyone on the internet is a lawyer.
/c Nu-uh! I'm a decorated war veteran FBI and CIA agent and a master of jeet kune do. Also, 13/F/Calif. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Grumpy Owly
409
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Chribba wrote:Everyone on the internet is a lawyer.
/c Nu-uh! I'm a decorated war veteran FBI and CIA agent and a master of jeet kune do. Also, 13/F/Calif.
roflysst Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Chribba wrote:Everyone on the internet is a lawyer.
/c Nu-uh! I'm a decorated war veteran FBI and CIA agent and a master of jeet kune do. Also, 13/F/Calif.
Giz a call in 5 years love 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:57:00 -
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A) Iceland is not a signatory of the European Union therefore European Union common law does not apply to Iceland. B) The United States has no internet / bullying laws especially when the manbaby is a grown up, not a minor under the age of majority. C) The Wis made this threat was back during Ice Interdiction. I myself am responsible for taking over 20 billion isk from miners who sought protection and yet were destroyed (Nofucks were given). Therefore I am responsible for at least 80 miners's potential suicide in the future that I may or may not have suggested them to do so. Nonetheless, if these people off themselves between the termination of Ice Interdiction and now, I still don't fucking care.
Go back to teaching yourself fake martial arts.
~10,058~ |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:58:00 -
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Wow cheers for making it clear to everyone what an idiot you are
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

baltec1
860
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:58:00 -
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http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/MissItty/PONYSIG17.jpg
See this this why images should be on these forums |

Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
393
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:59:00 -
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"Incitement to mental torture" eh
OKAY THEN BRO |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
437
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:00:00 -
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I may be able to help you here.
After several years of 'Boston Legal', each episode viewed at least twice, I am confident that I know American Law.
Also, there's this Internet thing which apparently has good information about subjects such as Op has written about.
There are more worrying concerns in this world and even in this game. No really, there are.
Never forget - God loves you. (PS - or Allah, let's be inclusive here please).
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/MissItty/PONYSIG17.jpg See this this why images should be on these forums 
This is the Wild West fella, the Authorities of the world aren't going to ignore the weebs forever you know, especially as innocents can use it these days, they owe a duty of care
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:01:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Wow cheers for making it clear to everyone what an idiot you are Irony much? You're the one thinking that precedence can be done retroactively. Laws and common law are established to prevent future events from occurring ever again.
If The Wis had killed himself because of the fact Atrum and Mittani smartbombed the guy and his 22 miners, it's not our problem. You want criminal charges to be brought up but you got no laws that will support your argument. Nor will any prosecutor do so because there are no laws. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:01:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:I may be able to help you here.
After several years of 'Boston Legal', each episode viewed at least twice, I am confident that I know American Law.
Also, there's this Internet thing which apparently has good information about subjects such as Op has written about.
There are more worrying concerns in this world and even in this game. No really, there are.
Never forget - God loves you. (PS - or Allah, let's be inclusive here please).
What about the Goddess 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:03:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Wow cheers for making it clear to everyone what an idiot you are Irony much? You're the one thinking that precedence can be done retroactively. Laws and common law are established to prevent future events from occurring ever again. If The Wis had killed himself because of the fact Atrum and Mittani smartbombed the guy and his 22 miners, it's not our problem. You want criminal charges to be brought up but you got no laws that will support your argument. Nor will any prosecutor do so because there are no laws.
Public incitment to mentally torture someone you know is sucidal may indeed be illegal I'm afraid
PvP ingame no .. but we are meta gaming now baby.. meta gaming
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Kehro Urgus
193
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:03:00 -
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A man who is his own attorney has a fool for a client. You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:05:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Karadion wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Wow cheers for making it clear to everyone what an idiot you are Irony much? You're the one thinking that precedence can be done retroactively. Laws and common law are established to prevent future events from occurring ever again. If The Wis had killed himself because of the fact Atrum and Mittani smartbombed the guy and his 22 miners, it's not our problem. You want criminal charges to be brought up but you got no laws that will support your argument. Nor will any prosecutor do so because there are no laws. Public incitment to mentally torture someone you know is sucidal may indeed be illegal I'm afraid PvP ingame no .. but we are meta gaming now baby.. meta gaming What laws are you basing this on, Herr Professor. Feel free to quote from Wisconsin State Law or the United States Code or even Icelandic law. European Union laws does not apply here since Iceland is not a signatory of the EU. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:05:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:A man who is his own attorney has a fool for a client. 
Sweet being the Furher is a ambulance chaser perhaps he'll choose to do just that
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:06:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Karadion wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Wow cheers for making it clear to everyone what an idiot you are Irony much? You're the one thinking that precedence can be done retroactively. Laws and common law are established to prevent future events from occurring ever again. If The Wis had killed himself because of the fact Atrum and Mittani smartbombed the guy and his 22 miners, it's not our problem. You want criminal charges to be brought up but you got no laws that will support your argument. Nor will any prosecutor do so because there are no laws. Public incitment to mentally torture someone you know is sucidal may indeed be illegal I'm afraid PvP ingame no .. but we are meta gaming now baby.. meta gaming What laws are you basing this on, Herr Professor. Feel free to quote from Wisconsin State Law or the United States Code or even Icelandic law. European Union laws does not apply here since Iceland is not a signatory of the EU.
READ THE THREAD YOU REDICULOUS IDIOT (IMO) I'M ASKING JUST THAT FROM SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
366
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:08:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Is insitment to mental torture a possible infraction of any laws in your country? I think under section 2C of the interwebs douchebaggery act any sufficiently bad poaster is summarily sentenced to death by Mittani's goading them into committing suicide.
Farewell Professor Alphane, it was a pleasure knowing thee.
Professor Alphane wrote:Tippia wrote:Chribba wrote:Everyone on the internet is a lawyer.
/c Nu-uh! I'm a decorated war veteran FBI and CIA agent and a master of jeet kune do. Also, 13/F/Calif. Giz a call in 5 years love  Screw it, give me a call now. 56/m/my mother's basement -áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:09:00 -
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And I gave you the answer. No law in any current form exists. The closest is cyber bullying which only covers children under the age of majority. The Wis is not under the age of majority as he was divorced apparently which marriage is normally allowed once over the age of majority. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:15:00 -
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Karadion wrote:And I gave you the answer. No law in any current form exists. The closest is cyber bullying which only covers children under the age of majority. The Wis is not under the age of majority as he was divorced apparently which marriage is normally allowed once over the age of majority.
And your qualifactions to advice in this?
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
331
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:16:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote: Professor Alphane, it was a pleasure knowing thee.
Thank you very much
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:17:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Karadion wrote:And I gave you the answer. No law in any current form exists. The closest is cyber bullying which only covers children under the age of majority. The Wis is not under the age of majority as he was divorced apparently which marriage is normally allowed once over the age of majority. And your qualifactions to advice in this? Being aware of common law, being aware of the laws of the states I participate in, the country I am a citizen of, being aware of UN Conventions, etc. I know in Liverpool where you teach yourself fake martial arts, you are indeed an expert at law since you self-taught law based on Aristotle's teaching. |
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