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Nakova Wilson
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Posted - 2008.09.08 15:51:00 -
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Hello All,
I am about a month into Eve and I have been having a really tough time finding sites to do Materials Research on BPOs. I have 8 queued up at various stations that only had 14-18 day waiting times.
Is there a way to do this research faster in Empire space, I don't feel comfortable joining a 0.0 corp just to use a player corp facilities and since I don't know exactly what I am going to try to accomplish in eve I don't want to corp hop.
Thanks
Nakova
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Scoutette
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Posted - 2008.09.08 15:56:00 -
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You can hire a player corp in empire space to do the research for you.
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Constance Harme
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:13:00 -
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You could join/create a corp in one of the research alliances, New Dawn for instance, you'll find more access to labs and theres a helpful community within to help with any problems you might encounter.
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Constance Harme
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Constance Harme on 08/09/2008 16:13:34
Ugh stupid forums..
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Gridwalker
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:23:00 -
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Honest advice? Don't worry about the ME research at your age. You're only going to save a max of 10% on material waste with ME research.
How high is your Production Efficiency skill? If you're only a month into EVE, I bet it isn't particularly high. Each level of Production Efficiency saves you 4% on your material requirements. Training it to level 4 is an absolute must if you're going to do any manufacturing at all. Any serious industrialist will have it at level 5.
What BPO's are you talking about? Quite often, it makes more sense to buy researched copies instead of BPO's. If you're talking about relatively inexpensive BPO's, someone in your region probably wouldn't mind throwing them on their POS for a small fee.
-Grid
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic
Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.08 19:52:00 -
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As a new player who plans on sticking around, I'd just use the empire slots, as if you get a method that is quicker (empire research alliances, hiring somebody, setting up your own POS) it costs more.
Just a thought, you'll pay a premium to avoid the lines.
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Sysion
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Gridwalker
Honest advice? Don't worry about the ME research at your age. You're only going to save a max of 10% on material waste with ME research.
Correction, you'll save 10% on material cost. Base waste is 10%, with research, you can easily get that down to <1% is a matter of a day or two on most blueprints.
Additionally, I wouldn't tell anyone to not do ME research. 10% is a good chunk of profits to tell someone to ignore. Depending on the item, that could be 1/3 to 1/2 the profit for T1 items. Additionally, you can do ME research on a BPO while training up to PE4 or 5. In fact, with is BPO in queues waiting for ~14 days, he could absolutely have PE4 by the time it is done.
Ignoring research alliances, like was also suggested, isn't a good idea either. The time/cost to get started up in Eve can be a lot. 2-4 week queue times on research slots make it easy for new players to get bored and quit. You could join a corp that is in a research alliance like New Eden or Zzz for basically no cost. They charge more for slot usage, but the costs aren't *that* high. Maybe 10k/hour, say you research for 2 days on a BPO, that is ~500k. Should be able to make that pretty easy on L1/2 missions.
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Nakova Wilson
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:30:00 -
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Thank you all for the helpful feedback.
I have production efficiency 4 now, 5 is next weeks overnights, well may weeks since it will take me 14 days... anyways I am making rigs, or hoping to do so. With all the missions I am doing, I am getting great salvage and have enough mats for a rig now, which should sell about 13 m isk, which for a solo player like me seems tremendous.
Since I can queue up what appears to be as many jobs as I want, I will likely just queue many of them up and wait it out.
I will contact New Dawn and see what rates they charge etc.
Thanks!
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Rin Taleda
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Posted - 2008.09.08 22:37:00 -
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For rigs, researched bpo/bpc's are a good idea. Some of the research firms will sell you researched bpo's for the npc price of the bpo plus the research cost, so that is good value and low risk, or they would be happy to sell some researched bpc's to get you started.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.09.09 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nakova Wilson
Since I can queue up what appears to be as many jobs as I want, I will likely just queue many of them up and wait it out.
You can have one job queued per level of the laboratory operation skill, and one per level of the advanced laboratory skill. To get shorter queues look for quieter regions and probably lowsec.
On the plus side these days you 'can' queue stuff up, back in the old days you rented a slot like you rent an office, and they were all taken, all of them. :p Very lucky to find a player that missed their bill so you could get access to even one slot to research.
The other options these days of course are being in a research alliance with your corp and using their slots, or buying researched BPOs/BPCs.
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E'Pock
Gallente
The Privateers Marque
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Posted - 2008.09.09 12:31:00 -
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I am making T1 Items for my corp. I have not manufactured any ships as of today but I do have BPOs. For me,I have been training up all my Learning Skills first before training the other things I need for manufacturing to lvl 5. It will benifit me in the back end for when i am getting the BPOs up to 50ME/50PE. As far as making copies I have not put any into a que to make copies. I will wait till all my skills are up to par and also all the Mechanical Skills such as Frigate Construction.
I have made a small profit on T1 stuff since I have a Miner in the Corp that gets me the materials I need and also when the other guys are doing missions they tend to refine equipment found to get the high end materials I need.
The profit from making ammo and turrents are not very high, I have found building Shuttles to be very good at making ISK. Seems everyone buys a shuttle and then leaves it somewhere other then where they need it :)
Best Advice is to check the region market. Find out what items are going for and see how much has been sold in your system. if there is a very low to non exsitance of it with in the system then chances are you can make a nice lil profit to help you along till you start manufacturing ships and other high end equipment. Make sure it is also a hub where a lot of people go thru. No point making a bunch of stuff in a hub no one really uses.
Like I said..at first the profit is minor but once you get all your skills up and get really moving the ISK will be larger. =)
Hope this helps.
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Gridwalker
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sysion
Originally by: Gridwalker
Honest advice? Don't worry about the ME research at your age. You're only going to save a max of 10% on material waste with ME research.
Correction, you'll save 10% on material cost. Base waste is 10%, with research, you can easily get that down to <1% is a matter of a day or two on most blueprints.
I phrased that poorly. But I would like to correct you as well... it is not a matter of "a day or two" to get the waste down to <1% on any blueprint if you are trying to use public slots.
I would just rather see him on the WTB forums putting out bids on BPC sets and looking for deals on pre-researched BPO packs instead of trying to research his own BPO's at a month old and without all the research and manufacturing skills yet.
All that aside, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who wouldn't mind researching a few BPO's for a new industrialist for a minimal fee, or even for free. I hate having idle slots in my POS. If the OP wants to take advantage of that offer, he should send me an EVE-mail.
-Grid
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