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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:17:00 -
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Quote: (IP logs don't lie, kthx)
depends on how different the IP is ie dial up usaly changes ip every so often alot of DSL has dynamic ip adress and proxy setting you can change your ip ( change mine very so often) ----------------------------------------------
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:19:00 -
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Yes, thanks for the "basics of using the internet 101" lesson.
You can assume the people who looked into it have done this kind of investigation before.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Shirei
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell It's not propaganda. It's our view of the history of the war.
Your view of the history of the war... used as propaganda. 
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Xhalen Toth
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:34:00 -
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Not that it's pertinent to this post, nor any others for that matter, but I can't help but notice that you've changed your last name Jade. It apparently hasn't been changed on your 'sig' however.
Anyway, sorry for interrupting the banter.
"A shadowy ichor is beginning to extend its tendrils into society." |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Halseth,
And we know PRECISELY how you got into our forums. The terms we used are entirely appropriate. (IP logs don't lie, kthx)
You have an IP address on your logs that shouldnt be there and that makes me a liar?? Excellent job, Sherlock. Someday I'll forward that email to you so you can see for yourself. You might even be surprised at who. |

Jade Constantia
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Posted - 2004.06.14 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Halseth Durn
Originally by: Maya Rkell Halseth,
And we know PRECISELY how you got into our forums. The terms we used are entirely appropriate. (IP logs don't lie, kthx)
You have an IP address on your logs that shouldnt be there and that makes me a liar?? Excellent job, Sherlock. Someday I'll forward that email to you so you can see for yourself. You might even be surprised at who.
Has it not clicked that by our total lack of any concern about this issue we simply don't believe a word you say Halseth? If you want to create your own IC fantasy propaganda then please create your own thread and stop trolling mine.
The Great Northern War: 14 Day Commentary by Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction and Public Forum and introducing; LA MAISON DE TOUS LES PLAISIRS Gallente roleplaying and cultural exchange channel!
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:07:00 -
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well I have to say Jade, that your account is approximately 95% inaccurate.
But then I wouldn't expect an accurate account because you've done nothing but sit in EC-P8R, 1 jump from empire space since the beginning of the war.
Your friends continue to die, and you just sit back and watch.
Your account is nothing more than fiction, and now the JPA have called their pirate companions in, which shows you are nothing more than a bunch of pirate supporters, that can't fight their own war. ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Reassor
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:12:00 -
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omg jade is lossing :)
Halseth rule ;]
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Jade Constantia
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantia on 14/06/2004 01:22:18
So much for the Phoenix Alliance "no flame" posting ban eh?
And by the way Inkz (in cased you missed it)
Jericho Fraction Kill board PA War
The Great Northern War: 14 Day Commentary by Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction and Public Forum and introducing; LA MAISON DE TOUS LES PLAISIRS Gallente roleplaying and cultural exchange channel!
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:21:00 -
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/emote grabs the popcorn and watches from a safe distance.
Limpy Bint
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Mojo JoJo on 14/06/2004 01:53:05
Quote: But then I wouldn't expect an accurate account because you've done nothing but sit in EC-P8R, 1 jump from empire space since the beginning of the war.
odd i saw jade in hpa on sat ...but kia couldnt be found the guys in bkg didnt see you the guys in d7 didnt see you the guys in cod/fu space didnt see you ...we did get reports of you in jciv all 12 you could field so dont cast stones
enjoy jciv btw
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.06.14 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: limpy bint
Originally by: Lord Draco Where is the original Jade?
Banned I think. BTW if someone has read all that could they type up a short summary?
Limpy Bint
JAP JAP BLOB BLOB SLAP SLAP LOG OFF
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.06.14 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: KIAInkZ Your account is nothing more than fiction, and now the JPA have called their pirate companions in, which shows you are nothing more than a bunch of pirate supporters, that can't fight their own war.
Hi. Let me make something clear for you. We aren't pirates. You reneged on our access rights. We have fought you since. We will continue to do so, at our leisure, untill that issue is sorted.
m0o have come up to play. You call them pirates. A more apt description is terrorists. While I in no way speak for them, I am willing to bet they don't give a rats azz about cod fu rkk jf etc etc. They just like to kill stuff, and you guys are easy targets.
It is amusing, that.. anytime we go somewhere, we are "fighting someones war for them" If all the above mentioned corps signed agreements to end things with PA, we would still attack you. We did it before they came along, and will do it regardless of who remains involved.
BTW you guys had a very bad weekend.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.06.14 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Notferr on 14/06/2004 05:29:38 Edited by: Notferr on 14/06/2004 04:55:21 El smack of el arse, they had...
But PA is winning the war, and we are being overran....
I forgot....
 
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.06.14 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Notferr on 14/06/2004 05:44:39
Originally by: Halseth Durn
Wow, its been 2 weeks already? Amazing!
.....
Miss yall,
Halseth
If you want PvP, bring even numbers. If you want to control the situation, bring friends.
Halseth,
I like you, but PA should have kicked CDI out by your own words.
While it is nice that you can dip in from time to time and rally PA to the flagpole, I disappointed by your lack of consistancy.
As far as CDI is concerned, I am a bit ****ed when you gave your own word, and refuse to CALL these bastards out.
I wish that you would follow your own word in the matter.
No matter how small the technical violation, by Krullz's own words, the sanctions were violated.
Until Oberion leaves PA, either force them out, or plz stop posting.
Hoping life in retirement on New Caldari treates you well,
- N -
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.06.14 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 14/06/2004 05:40:30 Hehehehehehehe..... it's so difficult to take you all seriously!
NORAD officially state that we have no interest in any of this political chicanery. We believe PA have problems and CA = ebil. All the rest of you can go get F***ed or as commonly known "go forth and multiply".
If you take this game too seriously you will feel bitter when podded.... that's a bad thing. We will pod our enemies a lot so please keep things in perspective 
P.S. We are winning, anyone who says otherwise doesn't have my astute perspective! 
Eve Blacklight Style
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.06.14 06:47:00 -
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Good thing Sun Ra made an executive summary. 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.14 06:56:00 -
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Quote:
Originally by: Lord Draco Where is the original Jade?
Banned I think. BTW if someone has read all that could they type up a short summary?
Limpy Bint
The original Jade is quite capable of posting but opts not too for the time being. That is all.
Lots of love.
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.06.14 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Fuffel on 14/06/2004 07:20:08
Originally by: Jade Constantia And by the way Inkz (in cased you missed it)
Jericho Fraction Kill board PA War
I wont post CEs kill list (its not even the most impressive one in the PA) but yours is very good for a corp who scores the most kills on the OF 
for NORAD flying with m0o, its a shame and I feel - like a lot of corps - we wasted our time while helping you guys out with your little pirate problem.
Not very clever, as we all know "you cant defeat an alliance", but you can make lots of new enemies - think about what will happen after the nomadic terrorists loose intresst? You find yourself next to a very pi$$ed neighbourhood, ask COD and the FU if they like it 
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.06.14 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fuffel Edited by: Fuffel on 14/06/2004 07:20:08
Originally by: Jade Constantia And by the way Inkz (in cased you missed it)
Jericho Fraction Kill board PA War
I wont post CEs kill list (its not even the most impressive one in the PA) but yours is very good for a corp who scores the most kills on the OF 
for NORAD flying with m0o, its a shame and I feel - like a lot of corps - we wasted our time while helping you guys out with your little pirate problem.
Not very clever, as we all know "you cant defeat an alliance", but you can make lots of new enemies - think about what will happen after the nomadic terrorists loose intresst? You find yourself next to a very pi$$ed neighbourhood, ask COD and the FU if they like it 
If i remember right,
Venal has had a history of Alliances "Dieing". -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.06.14 07:24:00 -
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After two weeks EVOL finnaly appeared in the war. Thats cool, I dont mind fighting and beeing killed sometimes by ppl who can fight. Same time m0o comes into fight, saying they are just here to kill stuff but whatever. Thats cool, I don't mind fighting and beeing killed sometimes by ppl about which I heard that are really good at pvp - let's check this one it will surely be hella fun. At least we can call it "war" finally and it is can be an advantage for us.
But please, Rkk/Jf/Norad/Cod & Co. dont try to look like you have anything to do with it 
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:28:00 -
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I removed some off topic posts, if anyone sees anything you think requires a moderator, please email [email protected], don't post it in the thread, since it is off topic. But you are welcome, and even encouraged to email us about it.
To clear up the IC/OOC issue. The only forum that is IC only is the Intergalactic Summit forum, and the only pure OOC forum is the Out of Pod Experience forum. You are free to post IC or OOC in all other forums. Although we think that a IC post should be replied to in a IC way we won't enforce it, so except for the two forums above you are free to post IC or OOC or mix it.
Anyway, keep it on topic and even though you're hostile try not to flame or troll each other. Have a nice day and if there's any more problems feel free to email us. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |

Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Fuffel on 14/06/2004 08:48:17
Originally by: Ly'sol
If i remember right,
Venal has had a history of Alliances "Dieing".
if I remember right,
most of the bigger alliances had their "dieings", revolutions whatsoever they simply kept their old names 
- g |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: KIAInkZ Your account is nothing more than fiction, and now the JPA have called their pirate companions in, which shows you are nothing more than a bunch of pirate supporters, that can't fight their own war.
Hi. Let me make something clear for you. We aren't pirates. You reneged on our access rights. We have fought you since. We will continue to do so, at our leisure, untill that issue is sorted.
m0o have come up to play. You call them pirates. A more apt description is terrorists. While I in no way speak for them, I am willing to bet they don't give a rats azz about cod fu rkk jf etc etc. They just like to kill stuff, and you guys are easy targets.
It is amusing, that.. anytime we go somewhere, we are "fighting someones war for them" If all the above mentioned corps signed agreements to end things with PA, we would still attack you. We did it before they came along, and will do it regardless of who remains involved.
BTW you guys had a very bad weekend.
Ahh the voice of reason, /me bows to Proph Sass Arcane Technologies |

pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fuffel Edited by: Fuffel on 14/06/2004 07:20:08
Originally by: Jade Constantia And by the way Inkz (in cased you missed it)
Jericho Fraction Kill board PA War
I wont post CEs kill list (its not even the most impressive one in the PA) but yours is very good for a corp who scores the most kills on the OF 
for NORAD flying with m0o, its a shame and I feel - like a lot of corps - we wasted our time while helping you guys out with your little pirate problem.
Not very clever, as we all know "you cant defeat an alliance", but you can make lots of new enemies - think about what will happen after the nomadic terrorists loose intresst? You find yourself next to a very pi$$ed neighbourhood, ask COD and the FU if they like it 
"flying with moo"? During the weekend norad were engaged in battles against both m0o and PA.
How do your less-than-optimal reasoning translate having the same enemy at the same time but for different reasons into "flying with"? Especially if you are not in the same gang, not coordinating, not in the same system and podding each other when possible.
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Skullhunter
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:11:00 -
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Not Being involved in this war or taking sides i would just like to say Jade WOW one hell of a post read like a great book... only wish i could have seen some of the epic battles in person  I wish both sides good luck in there battles and a safe flight home
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Jade Constantia
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:20:00 -
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[Wrangler]
Quote: To clear up the IC/OOC issue. The only forum that is IC only is the Intergalactic Summit forum, and the only pure OOC forum is the Out of Pod Experience forum. You are free to post IC or OOC in all other forums. Although we think that a IC post should be replied to in a IC way we won't enforce it, so except for the two forums above you are free to post IC or OOC or mix it.
Thank you for clearing that up Wrangler this seems a sensible policy. I wonder if that could be added to a sticky or forum guide somewhere since this roleplay/anti-roleplay argument is being had quite a lot at the moment in various places.
Anyway, clearly the best policy for people that don't want to debate IC with IC material is to just ignore it or go create an OOC thread in rebuttle. As I mentioned in the openign I am very happy to OOC debate these issues on Jericho Fraction forums but I feel it sensible to avoid such things here.
Quote: Anyway, keep it on topic and even though you're hostile try not to flame or troll each other. Have a nice day and if there's any more problems feel free to email us.
Again sensible advice, and I think something that is much easier to adopt when imagining that these are game characters getting angry with each other, not the players behind the characters.
Anyway, thank you for the mod cleanup.
Lots of love
The Great Northern War: 14 Day Commentary by Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction and Public Forum and introducing; LA MAISON DE TOUS LES PLAISIRS Gallente roleplaying and cultural exchange channel!
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Jade Constantia
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Skullhunter Not Being involved in this war or taking sides i would just like to say Jade WOW one hell of a post read like a great book... only wish i could have seen some of the epic battles in person  I wish both sides good luck in there battles and a safe flight home
Well you know monsieur Skullhunter, this fight is not just something for limited involvement between the battle lines, and its not something happening a long long way away. A lot of the action in happening in Pureblind right on the borders of Caldari State territory and the Phoenix Alliance has currently moved its de facto captial to Torrinos system in the protection of regulated territory.
Also, you should realise this is a war being fought for very real issues, things extremely pertinent to independent corporations and freelancers and neutral businessmen in the Eve star cluster.
Reikoku and allies have entered hostility with Phoenix Alliance to defend the principles of alliance accountability and the protection of freespace in Pureblind, Tribute and Vale under the aegis of the NAST treaty.
The rogue corporation at the heart of this (CDI) had broken that treaty and was engaging in corrupt and piratical practises in contradiction of the NAST agreement.
The key issue was whether Phoenix Alliance had the will to discipline and eject a criminal (but very rich) member corporation. Since if they could not, then the rule of law enshrined in their constitution and claims to legitimacy would mean effectively nothing.
Imagine you were an independent trader attacked and killed by a PA corp and you made complaint and were told "we don't care", "we have no interest in limiting the freedoms of our members", "get lost or you die again".
That is what this war is about in a nutshell.
Accountability.
Hence if you personally monsieur Skullhunter have an interest in the northern regions and seeing Pureblind kept open for honest trade then you might consider taking up arms and joining the free corps already fighting the Phoenix Alliance.
This war can have only one of two eventual outcomes:
PA defeated and the principle of freespace in Pureblind sustained.
PA victorious and a new dark age of oppression losed upon the north.
Now, anyone looking for a noble cause in the current environment of eve doesn't have to look very far to find one...
Jericho Fraction wants people in 0.0 space and we very much seek the establishment of a valid unrestricted economy and open trade routes in Pureblind.
Phoenix Alliance just wants to rule the roost and be unaccountable to the traditions of oath and honour.
Its a fairly simple choice.
The Great Northern War: 14 Day Commentary by Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction and Public Forum and introducing; LA MAISON DE TOUS LES PLAISIRS Gallente roleplaying and cultural exchange channel!
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight P.S. We are winning, anyone who says otherwise doesn't have my astute perspective! 
As usual, in large conflicts with many people from different corps/alliances involved, both sides think they are winning - from the information each of them have. And, from their individual perspective, this conclusion may be right. But generally, the people reporting they are winning are in more pvp-oriented corps which don't have that many losses - while they at the same time never see nor hear about many of the losses their side has.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantia PA defeated and the principle of freespace in Pureblind sustained.
PA victorious and a new dark age of oppression losed upon the north.
PA does not oppose free space in Pure Blind in any way shape or form - except for its declared enemies of course.
And we all know that PA are baaaad and eat babies, but I'm a bit unsure why it is supposed to be PA who is trying to start a 'dark age of oppression'.
It is you who invaded PA, not the other way round. The only ones PA may be trying to 'oppress' are those who attacked us, which is a quite natural reaction in my opinion.
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