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michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:43:00 -
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Alexander Michael Gianturco of Madison, Wisconsin. ie Mittens
^^ Simple google search.
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michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:45:00 -
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I mean, if we're gonna put people real life **** on blast. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:11:00 -
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consequences on this one should be of the real world grown ass variety..... |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:19:00 -
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how was a prepubescent mouthbreather allowed to speak on behalf of this game in the first place? |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:36:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:The thing I find scariest of all is the fact that so many people, seem to consider asking a crowd to try and get someone to kill them selves as foolish behavior or something that an apology and 200 bucks makes go away.
I do wonder if this is something to do with the culture of the United States, or if its a global concept. Yes he stuffed up but he did it on camera to a large audience in front of a large audience. I do actually feel sorry for the guy but worry about the future.
^^^This
People found it hilarious. Gianturco was in no way shape or form "joking" or just blurting out drunken nonsense. The dude was tipsy but he was not falling out smashed. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:The thing I find scariest of all is a howling mob who completely disregard that an apology has been made and accepted, but believe that it's their business to keep this whole thing escalating, regardless of the effect on the person they claim to be defending. I thought the apology was good actually but does an apology really cut it for what was said. That leads down the path of can you make real life death treats and just apologize later in the game now? It's not up to you to decide if it "really cuts it", is it?
I know the person who the apology was sent to personally.....and no the apology didn't "cut it". lawls |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:52:00 -
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And for everyone's fyi wis is just fine. The letter was taken out of context to make it sound like he was asking them not to gank him because he was going through a rough patch irl. He was not. He was, in a foolish way, trying to explain to human waste why he plays the game the way he does....it is his outlet from real life in which he was having problems, problems most of you pubies couldn't even comprehend. His mistake was not realizing he was just feeding little human piggies with their treasured tears. He never did anything of any consequence to the goons so while I understand the ganking, that's part of the game, i simply don't understand calling on people to troll this harmless hi sec bear into killing himself. If you don't get that ur garbage. If you keep up that real life **** and forget this is a video game.....people may show up at your public functions with this same idea in mind, that this is about to get "real" right quick. Then what? Eve over is what. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:02:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:[quote=michaelthered][quote=Frying Doom]
Lets face it, I haven't seen the US start wars with China like they have with every 3rd world country that couldn't fight back. It's entirely cultural to prey on the weak.
I'm american and i can see you have a point. But hold off on the China thing...soon as them and Russia want to go off the dollar as the worlds reserve you'll see your China war. True story. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:56:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:michaelthered wrote: I know the person who the apology was sent to personally.....and no the apology didn't "cut it". lawls
no you don't
actually I do. ANd not just since fanfest happened..... |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:14:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:no you really don't and nobody is going to believe you
yes i really do. I know Wis...have spoken to him on coms. A very nice man. **** we ran some missions together one night cause we were bored. The dude is a straight up nice guy.
Here's my point cause i give a **** about all this eve politics bullshit and whether this dude has to step down or not....it's so inconsequential to me. But if it's ok to step into somebody's real life in such a disgusting, vile manner....than the consequences should also be "real life", and not this eve video game bullshit. Maybe we all should have a real life meat up and get this **** settled then......you guys think it's ok, and others don't.....let's get out from the safety of our parents firewalls for a moment and see whats what. If you want to step outside the parameters of this game cause "eve is real" you know....then lets see what y'all are capable of when you have to look a man eye to eye. |
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michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:17:00 -
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[quote=Karl Hobb I highly doubt that. I think he's probably wondering what sort of idiotic world we live in where someone playing a video game uses real-life suicide as a bargaining device.
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except that's not what wis did. And Mitt knows that because he knows the context of the emails in their entirety. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:19:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:michaelthered wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:no you really don't and nobody is going to believe you yes i really do. I know Wis...have spoken to him on coms. A very nice man. **** we ran some missions together one night cause we were bored. The dude is a straight up nice guy. Here's my point cause i give a **** about all this eve politics bullshit and whether this dude has to step down or not....it's so inconsequential to me. But if it's ok to step into somebody's real life in such a disgusting, vile manner....than the consequences should also be "real life", and not this eve video game bullshit. Maybe we all should have a real life meat up and get this **** settled then......you guys think it's ok, and others don't.....let's get out from the safety of our parents firewalls for a moment and see whats what. If you want to step outside the parameters of this game cause "eve is real" you know....then lets see what y'all are capable of when you have to look a man eye to eye. this, is a quality fakepost +1 like
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michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:44:00 -
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D Derp wrote:BringerMC wrote:D Derp wrote:BringerMC wrote: I am in the military and if anyone ever did anything like that specially in the publics eye they would be demoted and have a field grade article 15 slammed on them. Pretty sure if you work for any company and do that you will also probably get canned. Would not be suprised if the CCP employee that was at the event doesn't get fired or at the least a suspension.
My god, do you take being in your country's armed forces as seriously as you do eve, or do you take this videogame as seriously as you do the military? Which is it? What he did was in the public and acting as a Person not a player behind a screen. He did not do it in an inpersonal fashion. He was live in person telling people to tell another living human being to commit suicide. Its one thing in game to say things but telling another person in game or in person to commit suicide that says they are suicidal is the wrong answer. When it comes to a beating heart and blood in the viens that is real life mate. And once again another person on eve-o misses the point that people like Wis, especially on the internet, claim to be suicidal or have x problem to garner sympathy -all the damn time-. It's common, even. Especially among the younger crowd. Yes, mittens did a dumb thing, but comparing his actions and him being on the CSM to being court marshaled or whatever is just ever so slightly blowing things out of proportion.
except that it's a very real possiblity he may get sued irl. And any of u mouthbreathing pubies that actually emailed wis a "do it man" email......that's stepping in it. I hate things like this end up getting settled in court. These things were meant to be settled like grown ass men. Alas I speak of a world long gone unfortunately. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:58:00 -
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Tergerom Loregeron wrote:Oh by the way I once told an Assisted Suicide advocate he should kill himself. Maybe some of you white knight moral crusaders could tell me what to think and how to feel about it?
BTW the clothes you wear and the electronics you use are made by people who are frequently forced into conditions where they would WILLINGLY commit suicide as an escape. Maybe you can do something about that for me, or are you guys hypocrites?
Need a hint?
"white knight moral crusaders"....said with such sarcasm and derision as if people being repulsed by someone petitioning people to troll another human being to kill himself for really no particular good reason, can't really think of a good reason but I digress. That's a really irritating sentiment.....mocking being a decent human being. wtf? |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:23:00 -
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Steph Wing wrote:This is not a CSM issue.
Mittens was on the panel not as the chairman of the CSM, but as the leader of Goonswarm. And the leadership of Goonswarm routinely tells people to kill themselves.
Not seeing an issue.
do they really "routinely" tell people to kill themselves irl? |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:39:00 -
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Steph Wing wrote:michaelthered wrote:Steph Wing wrote:This is not a CSM issue.
Mittens was on the panel not as the chairman of the CSM, but as the leader of Goonswarm. And the leadership of Goonswarm routinely tells people to kill themselves.
Not seeing an issue. do they really "routinely" tell people to kill themselves irl? Actually, yes. Yes they do. "Kill yourself irl" is a thing you see goons, esp Mittens, say all the time.
is it now? can goons verify this? |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:56:00 -
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Steph Wing wrote:D Derp wrote:Steph Wing wrote:michaelthered wrote:Steph Wing wrote:This is not a CSM issue.
Mittens was on the panel not as the chairman of the CSM, but as the leader of Goonswarm. And the leadership of Goonswarm routinely tells people to kill themselves.
Not seeing an issue. do they really "routinely" tell people to kill themselves irl? Actually, yes. Yes they do. "Kill yourself irl" is a thing you see goons, esp Mittens, say all the time. Your point? Why do you care if I tell another goon to kill himself, or that his post was so bad that I'm going to kill myself? I don't. I don't care at all, in fact I've come to expect it from goons. Hence why I don't see what the fuss is about what Mittens said at the panel. My point was that it'd be hypocritical to be upset over that and not over goons posting "kill yourself irl" on various fora. Which, for the record, I don't think anyone should be.
then you shouldn't have a problem telling it to someone's face. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:06:00 -
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Steph Wing wrote:michaelthered wrote:
then you shouldn't have a problem telling it to someone's face.
And indeed I would not. It's just words.
Walk up to a real goon at a bar this weekend, if you're old enough to drink, and tell him with all heartfelt sincerity he should kill himself because he's a waste of space. Go on....see what happens. That's my whole point..in the real world there are grown ass consequences for talking this kind of sht to people. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:24:00 -
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D Derp wrote:I think something similar happened once. The offending stranger got punched in the face. But your ridiculous scenario? He would be made fun of.
not even in a beverly hills polo club would that not lead to hands being thrown. |
michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:55:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
That's what I was trying to quote sorry i am to lazy to edit. The fact remains the suicide comment is out of line
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI01:12:00 decide for yourself, he seems very eager to say make him kill himself. Drunk or not.
the whole presentation was premeditated |
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michaelthered
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:25:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:
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No one seems to take into account that Wis guy might be have been trolling himself (this is EVE) and he might also have been botting with those 23 accounts. His reaction to this was certainly in good humour. Why not ask the person in question about how they feel about this? Because that might disarm this entire witch hunt.
Also no one seems to want to take into account that this sort of thing is a daily occurrence in most online games (note, this did not happen while in game or a game related service covered by the EULA). Some of the stuff you can hear on Xbox live makes mittanis comments look quite timid.
wis has been investigated by CCP...he is "not" a botter, confirmed. He runs a ridiculous multi screen setup I can't even begin to comprehend. He's got a blog somewhere that has a picture of it. You can see it for yourself. |
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