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Urenna Naari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:28:00 -
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With reference to the thread asking for action to be taken against The Mittani
(using an alt as it seems to be the in thing)
I watched the alliance stream, to me it was clear he was mocking and making fun
of an in game character who threatened to suicide over loss of spaceships to a
gank, He only revealed the character name and no real life information was given.
So my question is this, part of why I still play this game is the "no limits"
anything goes in game, you can grief you can con and scam no silly imposed
limits of real life ethics or morals a perfect sandbox of human nature good
and bad.
If you can succeed in eve, if you can deal with it all and kick ass then well done.
IF the Mittani gets kicked or scapegoat for this, how many of us will see it as
a dangerous precedent and see eve as less?
Also please note the talk some one had with the offended person and notice how alive and unbothered by the whole event.
Quote:[21:10:18] Xeross155 > Heya [21:10:22] The Wis > Hello [21:10:29] Xeross155 > Getting swarmed with interviews I can imagine [21:10:50] The Wis > No why? [21:11:57] Xeross155 > With this BS and all http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/[21:12:21] Xeross155 > Pretty sure the name Mittani called out was "The Wis" [21:12:31] The Wis > Oh I will have to check that out.. What is going on? [21:12:58] Xeross155 > You sent him a mail when you got scammed and your Mackinaws destroyed or smth [21:13:41] Xeross155 > Or at least one of his alliance mates [21:14:13] The Wis > Could have.. been a long time. Might have been when they had the safe mining offer when you guys were doing your anti ice thing. [21:15:08] The Wis > I did have someone ask me if I was ok.. Becouse he said that I had killed myself afterwards and he thought it was funny.. I did not see it so I have no clue what was said. [21:15:52] Xeross155 > Basically some idiots are all butthurt and are calling for him to step down from CSM and **** [21:16:51] Xeross155 > Basically, enjoy your 5 minutes of fame, multiple gaming press websites are putting the story up [21:16:58] Xeross155 > Leaving out your name though [21:16:59] Xeross155 > one sec [21:19:54] The Wis > Well I am not sure what is going on.. I know I have had some people say I should put a pentition in. Witch I have not. Since I have not seen the video or anything. But that would also explain why the goons are moving into my system now and starting [21:19:57] The Wis > ganking here. [21:24:54] Xeross155 > http://youtu.be/E7Ki91U-mBE?t=1h11m55s[21:26:17] Xeross155 > That's basically the snippet that people are upset about for some reason [21:29:34] Xeross155 > Anyway, CCP is doing an internal audit and **** about it, 3 game news websites have reported it so far, basically tagging it cyber-bullying [21:30:50] The Wis > Ok.. Well that is nice. Hmm.. wait.. If i do kill my self they might arrest him and prosicute him since he is in the US.. That would really be bad for him. [21:31:01] The Wis > Just kidding of course but a thought. [21:31:20] The Wis > Fly safe. I have real life stuff to do now.. ANd to watch for goons in system.. Fun Fun. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:32:00 -
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The sad part is that all of the attention being given to this thing is just making the griefer types smell blood in the water and mess with this dude. Nobody would care otherwise.
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
THE L0CK
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:33:00 -
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All these threads kind of remind me of American media when you think about it
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:35:00 -
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Fanfest 10 year anniversary = No more alcohol allowed.
Thanks carebears
And, why are people waving this poor guy's life story all over the internet? He already made the mistake of letting it leak into eveonline, but now all you 'do-gooders' are trying to turn him into a martyr without his knowledge or consent. You've literally taken his personal life problems and smeared it across the whole world in your selfish attempt to remove mittani from CSM.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:37:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Fanfest 10 year anniversary = No more alcohol allowed.
Thanks carebears
This is the true catastrophe to be endured by all. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:37:00 -
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GǪand the really funny thing is that, with all the posts being made, with the various threats that have been levelled against him, and with all the slurs and hate speech that some people have chosen to employ, Mittens would actually be in a better position than his supposed victim to have people tossed out of the game, especially if they keep it up like this. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
108
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:38:00 -
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I know rite?  |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
The Aurora Shadow
884
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:38:00 -
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Maybe post this instead of logs:
The Wis
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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baltec1
876
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:38:00 -
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This is nothing that had not happened hundreds of times this month in c+p. Whole lotta fuss over nothing. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
398
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:38:00 -
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what is this FOX news? |
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Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:39:00 -
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This is ******* hilarious. |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
418
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:40:00 -
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Javier McPoopbeard wrote:This is ******* hilarious.
That... beard...
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2365
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:41:00 -
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This whole thing is a disgusting and cynical attempt by The Mittani's enemies to defeat him out of game since they have been unable to in-game.
It's making CCP look bad by allowing it to go on.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:41:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Maybe post this instead of logs: The Wis
Reported for encouraging people to encourage him to commit suicide. |
Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
25
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:41:00 -
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So has his wife is deaf and blind too. and he's divorced and he's been playing since 2002? Goons you need to be hotdropping dead space mods on this guy. Give him something to smile about, His life is as sad as Mittani's |
Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
25
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand the really funny thing is that, with all the posts being made, with the various threats that have been levelled against him, and with all the slurs and hate speech that some people have chosen to employ, Mittens would actually be in a better position than his supposed victim to have people tossed out of the game, especially if they keep it up like this.
But Tipps if its on the level, how many relal people will really want to be a part of this for much longer and if its the latest con, how many more will learn the kind of distrust that has mired Eve.
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Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:55:00 -
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Urenna Naari wrote:
So my question is this, part of why I still play this game is the "no limits"
anything goes in game, you can grief you can con and scam no silly imposed
limits of real life ethics or morals a perfect sandbox of human nature good
and bad.
Actually, griefing is against policy and can get you banned. I have never witnessed this rule enforced, but it's there none the less. It seems clear that it has to be quite blatant and severe for CCP to get involved...and this event may qualify. It pushes the bounds to me anyway.
It makes perfect sense actually. Can CCP actually afford some runaway virtual thug decide that some of their customers can be hassled until they stop being customers? It certainly doesn't make a lot of business sense.
I think that I can safely say that I wouldn't find the game any less entertaining if CCP decides alliance leaders are not allowed orchestrate a mob attempt to harp on peoples' emotional problems with the goal of getting them to suicide. That's not a necessary feature of a game I want to play actually. Stick to the actual game! Honestly, why do you need this to be allowed in order to have fun in EvE? Do you really NEED to be able to talk a thousand people into telling someone to kill themselves in order to have fun??? If so, I find that rather sad and fear what you'll look for next when that gets boring. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:59:00 -
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I find the goon whining in all of this hilarious. U mad bros? |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:00:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:This whole thing is a disgusting and cynical attempt by The Mittani's enemies to defeat him out of game since they have been unable to in-game.
It's making CCP look bad by allowing it to go on.
Isn't mittens a master meta spy?
Has blog on tentonhammer.com called sins of a solar spymaster? Just saying meta gaming is encouraged...and this is on the forums so... technically still part O the game... Both games.
Just saying... |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:02:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Fanfest 10 year anniversary = No more stream allowed.
Thanks carebears.
Here fixed 4U in hope that since no stream, Icelandic chicks will be hot and drunk that nigh yeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa !! |
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:04:00 -
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Political Correctness needs to be killed.
It's todays fascism.
It's just a bunch of Riverini, Issler & Darius alts.
morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:07:00 -
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It's just a conveniant straw man -- the actual topic appeared the same night as the panel but it didn't pick up speed until after Mittens was re-elected -- people are using to vent their rage.
And as usual people jump on the bandwagon without doing their research or reading (at least skimming) the thread. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
143
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:13:00 -
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Posting in a thread that will only continue a discussion going on in 500 other threads. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:13:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:It's just a conveniant straw man -- the actual topic appeared the same night as the panel but it didn't pick up speed until after Mittens was re-elected -- people are using to vent their rage. Now, now. You know what we think of facts and thinking around hereGǪ
/emote finger-wag
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
110
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:JamesCLK wrote:It's just a conveniant straw man -- the actual topic appeared the same night as the panel but it didn't pick up speed until after Mittens was re-elected -- people are using to vent their rage. Now, now. You know what we think of facts and thinking around hereGǪ /emote finger-wag
You're right, I'm so ashamed of myshelf. |
Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:24:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:It's just a conveniant straw man -- the actual topic appeared the same night as the panel but it didn't pick up speed until after Mittens was re-elected -- people are using to vent their rage.
And as usual people jump on the bandwagon without doing their research or reading (at least skimming) the thread.
OK, I'll bite. What information am I missing that I failed to research?
My understanding is that during his alliance presentation The Mittani showed a few examples of humorous tear mails, including one in which some dude said his life was going hard and he was thinking of suicide. During the post panel discussion period he said something very similar to, if not word for word, "If you want to get the guy to really kill himself, his name is ... Get him."
This person has been, and continues to be on the CSM.
What did I miss? |
Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises
Rura-Penthe
12
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:26:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:It's just a conveniant straw man .
+100 internets!
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
422
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:27:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Political Correctness needs to be killed.
It's todays fascism.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
gfldex
402
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:40:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Maybe post this instead of logs: The Wis
Ammzi, you are knowledgeable and I have questions. How can we tell that The Wiz is not a goon alt? How can we tell that there was any money transfer from The Wiz to goons? Is this real life or is this just marketing?
Lets burn down Carebears-Online and rise Everlasting-Fun-Online from it's ashes. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
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Just wondering whether OP bothered to tell The Wis that the chat was going to end up on the forum. If not, this is a very low act.
So the guy has to be further abused by all the goons who are defending the original gaffe. This is really priceless. The defenders of this are only making a bad situation worse. |
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