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lachesis
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:21:00 -
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to my mind this is getting a little out of hand with regards to peeps forum posts .I watched the HD stream of his performance on the stream . and tbh he made a complete **** of his self
How about this as a compromise mittens is allowed to keep his account however a condition of this that he is not allowed to stand for any CSM roles for a minimum set period determind by the player base . a proviso of this is that he resigns ALL of his roles in goonswarm and is compelled to leave the goonies as part of his punishment . .... for a set period of time untill he realises the ramifications of what he has said live on tv . to my mind absaloute power corrupts absaloutly and i think in this case this is what has happend heh at the end of the day internet spaceships is a seroius business [:=d
lets face it he has essentially embarressed the eve community in front of the world with what he said and how can ccp grow the player base if new players get the impression that we all have this type of attitude and are prepared to conduct our selves in such a manner live on tv . like i said hes essentially got to big for his boots and thinks hes untouchable whilst he has made a public apology to the playey concerned and paid a siutable recompense to said player i wouldnt want him kicked out of the game
tldr mittens has got too big for his boots and should be punished but in essence the playerbase need peeps like him although i dont allways advocate his particular style of play or attitude i dont want to see him kicked i personally think this is a suitable comprimise ....discuss yes im posting with an alt cos i cannot be arsed with the flames . |
lachesis
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:50:00 -
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Lotta Mullarkey wrote:Even though IGÇÖm not a big fan of the Goons, I still say NOGǪ!!!
If he himself decides to step down as head of the CSM as he promised he would, than thatGÇÖs another matter entirely. But it should still be HIS decision and HIS ALONEGǪ! I donGÇÖt think CCP should force him to take the fall for this. In fact, I believe CCP has foregone their ability to force him out of the CSM chair. Saying you expect people to show reasonable conduct during an alliance panel is one thing. But not screening presentation material beforehand while at the same time allowing panel members to consume copious amounts of alcohol during the presentation is another and a recipe for disaster at that. They should have realised the potential for something like this to happen. (-1 to CCP).
He did apologise, and although I agree that it is near impossible to judge the sincerity of a written statement, I do believe he meant what he said. IGÇÖve seen the alliance presentation and he sucks as an actorGǪ (Sorry if youGÇÖre reading this Alex, but itGÇÖs trueGǪ). Let Mittens be the villain en EveGǪ Let him have his 10,059 votesGǪ A lot of people who are not terrible fans of the Goons still appear to applaud all the work Alex did during his previous CSM charmanship. So I still like to believe itGÇÖs Alex who's CSM and not Mittens.
This whole GÇ£blown out of proportionGÇ¥ witch-hunt needs to stop and CCP needs to step in and start locking treads like this one (another -1 to CCP for not doing soGǪ Yet). If this so called PR disaster results in a code of conduct for CSMGÇÖs and alliance panel representatives during future EVE events, than I will be more than satisfied. ItGÇÖll probably do more good to CCPGÇÖs reputation than simply booting someone out of the game because they had a terrible lapse of judgement while under the influence of alcohol.
but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game and if one of the most prominent players is going to conduct him self whilst apparently representing the whole communty ....then what does it say about the rest of us ...i say no to a thread lock in this case ...this is something that needs to be discussed by the whole community ...imo .... my main is prolly one of the oldest characters in eve .... and i simply cannot condone this type of behaviour live in front of the world .... like i said i dont want him kicked but he does need to be set an example by the player base as a hole ...... i have played since 2003 ...and quite frankly im embarressed by his attitude and his perfomance in front oh the world |
lachesis
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:11:00 -
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Count Austheim wrote:Dont care
well you should do ...he represents you ...........wether you like it or not ....hes the public face of all the eve player base . |
lachesis
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:23:00 -
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Lotta Mullarkey wrote:lachesis wrote:
but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game...
Discuss = Yes. Which-hunt = No. CCP, the CSM's and a mature player base should try to learn from this so it can be prevented from happening again in the future. Unfortunately, both CCP and the CSM's are remaining terribly quiet at the moment while the majority of the player base is screaming for blood. As if this is the only answer to the problem. There has to be a better and more constructive solution. IGÇÖm sorry to say, but weGÇÖre not doing a terrible good job at being GÇ£ambassadors of EVEGÇ¥ at the moment which I why I believe we're better of leaving this in the more capable hands of CCP and the CSM's. I hope they don't remain quiet for much longer. DarthNefarius wrote:
I disagree reality TV 101...
Makes me realise that Endemol is pumping far worse crap into our living rooms than the stuff weGÇÖve see in the alliance panel.
if you read my 1st post i distinctly said that this is getting to be a which hunt and i want it to stop its tearing the player base apart . i cant see how ccp can actually step in tbh because in essence he has done nothing wrong in game to warrant a ban ...he wasnt playing eve so i simply cannot see how they can do anything with regards to his conduct .he was represent eve...not playing it |
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:41:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:IMO, it should not be up to the players. As with any large group, we are subject to mob mentality with which all reason and logic go out the window.
In the end it is up to CCP. I'll be content with whatever they decide is appropriate.
how can ccp step in ...he`s done nothing wrong in game because he wasnt playing the damned game at the time of his comments .... his punishemnt should be completley voluntary ...but decided by options voted upon by the eve player base 1 he leaves.2 he stays ...but then his punishment is decided upon by the player base by a democratic vote given by options by ccp .... if ccp say they listen to the playerbase ...then now of all times its now up to ccp to step up to the plate and prove they mean what they say . |
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:04:00 -
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yes it certainley was a ccp event ...but when was the last time a player banned from playing eve because he attended a ccp event making silly crass comments and being bolloxed ...in the 9 years of playing ive not heard of one ... if at the end of the day IF he was a member of the ccp team he would prolly been sacked for his comments ...... but as i have already said he said what he said as an individual while REPRESENTING the eve comunity NOT CCP .... and he as our COMMUNITY CHAIRMAN needs to answer in some way or another by decisions made by the player base for portraying us as the eve playing community in such an embarrassing light
ive never been so embarrassed in the nine years of playing eve since the fanfest ..... and the player base should decide what to do with him ....not ccp .
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