"Sorry, but I will stay in this chair."

Yeah, of course. No consequences, just words, everything to save yourself.

"I'm sorry your honor, I was intoxicated when I got into that accident, I promise never to drink and drive again, I didn't kill anybody but can I go free now?"

I'm sorry being drunk is not an excuse.

Nice try Mittani

FIXED.

You goons don't really get that this isn't about the game EvE.


Its about real people.

And real world ramifications.

Its not just about the mittani and whom he tried to lynch mob. Its about anyone else that comes after. Whom might actually be pushed to far.

Mittens went to far and needs to back off and step away from the CSM.

He won, but he then shot his own foot off. He bears the responsibility for his actions.

He sounded like he was on the right path and was going to be a man about it. Now it seems he is backpedaling off of stepping down like he should. At this junction its bad PR for him to be on the CSM for all of EvE at a critical junction for CCP with dust coming out.

His actions ruined what seemed to be a good fanfest as well.

Which is rather ironic given that Mittani himself discounted the views of anybody in an NPC corp and claimed they weren't real subscribers this very afternoon

Yeah he can't grief you out of the game if you on a alt. Post with you main so he can take revenge! Its what eve is all about! GRIEF!

"Guys, it was the alcohol"

- Jeffrey Dahmer

Alex,

I'll forgive you. But first I'll need a 500m ISK deposit.

~ 49,000 ~

M O R E

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I am swimming in them!

Funny how ALTs votes are good enough during election time though

Since when are people allowed to just say "sorry" and walk away? Actions have consequences, even while drunk.

To be honest, this does not surprise me at all. You had a few drinks and the real you bled through. This guy took time off from work, bought a plane ticket to Iceland, with all sorts of exectations of fun and celebration to be had with his fellow EVE pilots....

Instead he left having been made fun of by you infront of thousands of people streamed around the world. Thats an awesome memory to carry around with you for life......

Bought a plane ticket to Iceland: $1,200.00
Hotel Room with fellow EVE Pilots: $300.00
Titcekt to Fan Fest: $125.00
Get Screamed at by Alex Gianturd infront of Thousand of fellow EVE pilots..........
.

I doubt I am the only one here with multiple accounts.

I say disband goons and make them spend another 6 months on SOMETHINGAWFUL for 6 months before reactivating accounts.

If you truly want to take ownership of your mistakes then you can start by stepping down from CSM, tell your alliance members to stop defending an act you have publicly condoned and apologized for, and stop your alliance from attacking protesters in jita. Saying sorry is something you do when you don't pull out soon enough, when you **** up this bad, action is required.

Lastly, back to CCP, where the **** is your response to this? What is there to think about or consider? Is there any other option for you than to publicly condone this abhorrent jackass of a person? Will you continue to keep him at your side? You should have kicked him from fanfest right then and there for making such a comment. How do you feel knowing that there are thousands of players defending him? Will you let that temper your response?

You should step down before they remove you so that when its all said and done you can look back and say you did the right thing. I have heard the rumor that you are a lawyer, but even if (though) you aren't you should realize that CCP's assets will be seizeable if anyone presses charges.

As you said yourself, there is no excuse for it. Every minute you continue to serve on the CSM contradicts that statement, as you are excusing yourself.

CCP doesn't have to, his actions did it for them.

There is a saying that "The real you comes out while you are drinking". If so, is this what you have been like this whole time, Mittani? You may think it is funny to make fun of suicidal people, mittens, but I assure you people's lives are not a joke. I also cannot believe the amount of people on this forum defending mitten's horrendous behavior.

Fixed that for ya. True story, ask him sometime.

Last time he was bragging about being a bigshot DC lawyer, he was a paralegal. That was a few years ago though. If he's gotten his degree, I'd like to hear from which school. Proof or gtfo.

Every hour that goes by without a resignation makes this worse for Eve.

I AM VERY ANGRY ABOUT MY TITAN

This may come as a shock, but there doesn't have to be a law passed against something to file a lawsuit over something. All you need is a damaged plaintiff, like a victim who attempted suicide for example, and a good argument for comparative negligence. CCP doing nothing about this would help that argument quite a bit.

At this point... It's a done deal. Mittens will be gone from the CSM and maybe the game for a while. Deal with it.

I guess it won't get real until Sony says "**** this ****" and pulls the plug on Dust.

Vee produces no content for the thread. Resign, mittens!

Well, after the attitudes presented by the organization, the lack of the promised resignation, and this tasteful gem:

http://i.imgur.com/NEqxu.gif

I'm gonna go ahead and assume this is all a long con. This type of activity doesn't seem very apologetic to me.

I saw it on SA first.

These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.

A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?

He made a bad joke, he crossed a fine line with it. He apologised for it. Just because you think something is funny doesn't mean that it is allright to do.

So by apologising and not trying to rationalize the bad thing he did he showed that he actually appears to have a spine. Its much harder to admit that you were wrong than to keep on defending your (or his) wrong position.

What he did was out of line. He got it, he acted on it. Stop defending him for his "bad joke". Take of your pink internet spaceship glasses and stfu before you make yourself look even more stupid.

I will try to make it as short and blunt as possible for you. YOU ARE WRONG. The end.

PS: Grow a spine

Oh yes the moral highground is the Goons isn't it

MY TITAN a bloo blooo blooo bloooooooooooooo

Obvious fear of a perma-ban is obvious.

WTF has this game come to when driving people to kill themselves is obviously accepted and ecouraged by the company that run it

Frankly you goons are fools

When has M EVA APOLIGISED FOR ANYTHING

Yet your all crying trying to defend what he admits was very very wrong

Grow up seriously

Some people also go to the gaming world in order to escape the real world where they have problems (mentally, physically, whatever).
In these days, its more acceptable than driving yourself into drugs, and its enhanced in people with obsessive personality.

You are in an MMO, not in a colledge fap house with only bad-ass motherf-knows-it-all boys acting out. There are more than one type of people playing this game.

So what's the math on any future lawsuits in which the plaintiff uses CCP -not- banning The Mittani for this as evidence that CCP was grossly negligent in letting behaviour like this go unpunished? Wrongful death awards can range pretty high, and a decent argument can be made for comparative negligence if they let it stand.

Resignation is the only option.

So what's the math on any future lawsuits in which the plaintiff uses CCP -not- banning The Mittani for this as evidence that CCP was grossly negligent in letting behaviour like this go unpunished? Wrongful death awards can range pretty high, and a decent argument can be made for comparative negligence if they let it stand.

Actually, there is.

If one of Eve's players commits suicide in the future, and it appears to be about cyber-bullying on Eve, you can be SURE that the plaintiff's counsel will bring up facts about how CCP has handled cases of cyber-bullying in the past. That's a given.

Also, reported for filter bypass.

Show me on the doll where the chairman touched your titan.

CCP Care, The people who have millions of dollars invested in CCP, CCP Official Sponsors.

Of course you are right, nothing like having your product advertised with winning headlines like

"CCP launches investigation after Eve Online FanFest panel accused of mocking suicidal player"

Especially with the media loving blaming Computer Games for everything from rioting to running around and shooting your fellow classmates dead, let alone the current fever surrounding Cyber Bullying..

I bet CCP are loving this attention

In other words, if you were in charge of CCP's legal dept, you would wait until we have an actual dead body before taking any sort of unnecessary and irreversible action...like a ban or a banishment from CSM. You know you're probably right. I'm sure their legal department is advising they wait until there's a DB before doing anything. No DB no foul right?

You mean wait a few days and see if the recent events is still a PR nightmare for CCP and all associated entities like the CSM? Because that is what you just said.

Mittani/Alex created a situation that leaves only two options for CCP:

1. Don't ban Alex and all his accounts thus sending the message to all players and the gaming community that CCP supports cyber bullying with the goal to get another player to kill themselves in real life.

2. Ban Alex and all his accounts sending a clear message that CCP does not tolerate cyber bullying with the intent to have someone kill themselves in real life.

That is the situation he created for himself and CCP. No one else did this. He has only himself to blame.

Everyone no matter what your angle is knows damn well that if it was some ordinary player who did this he would be in perma-ban hell right now. Why should Mittani receive this special treatment? Does being on the CSM now or the next term mean they are not held to the EULA like the rest of the players?

LOL, someone is for sure out of arguments when you have to start talking about other things as an excuse.

Big Country just interviewed Wis on eve radio 10 min ago ....listen for yourself ......they are harrasing him in real life ...Mittani crossed the line

It's EVE... Player generated content is the best kind. Ban his ass and bring it on.

nope, not in eve. That's lame, that's more of this hiding behind a computer screen bullshit. If you think you can write to someone to go kill themselves then let's do this up real. No more internet spaceship pew..let's do the grown ass man pew. Do you know what that is?

nothing veiled about it....i'm asking if people want to sack up and do something real if it's ok to tell folks to kill themselves irl.

Mittens first then

My friend, I'm not a Goon.

For the most part, I don't like a lot of the typical Goon behavior, although I'm slowly warming up to certain individuals.

However this witch hunt is far more irritating than Mittani's poor behavior. That would be why a large portion of the "Jesus people, grow up" comments are coming from non Goons.

Mindless lemmings with an axe to grind occasionally need the boot of common sense planted firmly in their ass... and that boot, on occasion, belongs to me.

They really seem to be that detached from reality.

Comes down to CCP has to punish mittens in some way that is highly visible so as not to become known as the Game and company that will allow people to threaten others with harassment unto death In real life, with just a slap on the wrists.

how bout a bar? you old enough to get in one? Do you see the point i'm trying to make at least? If you say something infront of people, even if it pertains to a video game environment, that would get your ass beat in a bar....then maybe there's actually something in this.

They should have voted for a better person.

When you vote for a person you must accept what that person does. If he does something horrible, well thats what you voted for after all. You had your chance and your man blew it for you. Mittens wasted their votes.

Try again next year.

i'm rather surprised that how stupid should ppl be enough to trust any word comes out of goons than this post, cos clearly he had no other choice but to do the formularized apology.

As I said earlier it's all pretty simple in my opinion.

What he did would get any other player in the game a temp ban at best.

Regardless if his apology was sincere or not he needs to get banned. If the apology was sincere that doesn't take away the consquences of the action.

All being sincere should do in regards to an apology is show that you are remourseful and that you are a man who acknowledges you did something wrong. It says that you do not wish to be known as that kind of person because of a mistake you made.

The best case scenario I can see for his apology would be a little lineincy in the form of accepting his resignation from the CSM and only issuing a small temporary ban.

If CCP feels the apology was only an attempt to evade trouble then it should be a flull fledged removal from EvE.

i'm not threatening to kill anyone you clown....i'm saying recognize that speech that wouldn't fly out in the real world is still not acceptable just because this is a fun internet space ship pew game. Especially when the person in question was not joking in any way shape or form. "IF", and i don't think this is true, but if Goons go around in various video games telling people to kill themselves then maybe there should be some afterparty shenanigans at fanfest next year. Thing is i know a couple goons and while they are master griefers and generally intolerable "IN GAME" assholes....they're actually good guys IRL and i'd have a beer with them anytime. They do not condone this bullshit.

Someone in a Null Sec alliance "who likes CCP proposal" about War Dec's in Town Assembly:


So clearly he:
A.Does care.
B.Does expect to be protected by the change.

So that is that.

I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to take your word for it, "friend".

ambushed? lols Just say "go kill yourself" to someones face and be prepared for adult consequences. "IF" you're not willing to say something to someones face don't say it over the internet. And don't hide behind the "it's just a game" notion. One of my corpmates is from Sweden and he stated blatantly if he made a video and posted it on the internet urging people to contact his neighbor to urge him to commit suicide, it would be jail time. This was not "fun and games" like certain people here are trying to make it out to be.

Why are the Null-Bears so hushed?

Mittens is going to take care of the High-sec Monsters who are mean to you. He is going to give you all the POCO's and every raw input in the game.

Why should it be so hard to admit that this is all completely undeserved and that you are not really tough at all?

You can still grief one miner. 1000 to 1. You can still be yourselves.

but they can't get into a bar which was the point....u see that right?

Thats what the goons try to do to stop discussion.

When one of the mods sweeps in and bans or removed their posts in a bit then it will be back on track.

no the consequences are usually a brawl.

You are still subject to all laws that would be illegal in the USA when traveling abroad. Just and FYI.

no connection to the real world. Troll people with this suicide **** and get other people in on it there are live grown ass consequences.

Read your passport documentation please.

Also know what a federal law is vs a state law.

Also the girls in Thailand thing is why that put that law into effect just an FYI. To stop sex tours from the USA that were going there.

Ignorance is no defense in a court a law.

That is because Mittani is a piece of ****. Everyone want's him to go except for a select group of forum trolling goon zerglings using all of their alts to post the same thing. The time for Mittani to leave has come, hope he's enjoyed his stay.

no it's not...at least not anymore. They just passed a new law that would "technically" allow them to prosecute an american citizen for smoking ********* in amsterdam. Whether they ever enforce that is anybody's guess but it's on the books now. Keep up with the world it's changing right infront of your face.

Didn't you know that CCP takes into consideration the opinions of almost the entire playerbase?

True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.

dude that was never in question. The problem I and a "few" other people are having is that people, urself included it seems, think this is no big deal. I'd think this was bullshit even if i didn't know Wis. For two or three days we heard that Wis got brought up at fanfest by the goons and we had a good laugh over it cause Wis knew what it was about, when they ganked him.....so we were eager to see the video, we knew the goons were going to mock him...he knew it. Nobody had any idea that this little piece of sheise was actually asking people to email wis and tell him to "kill himself". That was completely out of left field. I was stunned when i saw the cavalier nature of that video cause Wis had done nothing to these people except be the victim of their ganking.

It was my understanding he told everyone this guys real name and encouraged them to harrass him in and out of game. A persons name is personal information when it's involving a video game in which the only thing a person knows is your in game name.

Regardless let's agree that no personal information was given out, does that still remove all wrong doing? No it does not.

You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.

people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?

i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?

EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.

It's good to see the time honored classic of fill the thread full of non related crap so people stop posting, is still around.

Yup after seeing the Response of the Goons and Alts and pets.

Ban Alex from the game is the minimum now.

From just step down from CSM to Ban.

No one knew if Wis was really suicidal or not. Mittani crossed a line that should not have been crossed. I do believe Mittani is sincere in his apology, but he messed up pretty badly and should face some consequences for it

Keep telling yourself that drone. Im sure it will help you feel important in your special little internet spaceship way

Lol come at me bro! So it will be like last night in VFK when 200 of you hid from like 60? Goons never fight unless its like 4 to 1 odds in their favor

Mittens is done for ~deal with it~

By the way, the answer to "Is this thread still going" would be "This thread is just getting started."

Wait till you see it after The Mittani is booted from the CSM (sorry, steps down "voluntarily") and then again after his accounts are banned.

Our shitfit capital fleet that took like 1000 of you to kill... Even shitheels get lucky once in a while