Originally by: Irida Mershkov

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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 12/10/2009 22:59:11
What tools do you use to paint and colour your work Nova? I do digital artwork and graphic design for my degree work but I've never quite got shading tones down, what techniques do you use?

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Originally by: Nova Fox

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Originally by: Irida Mershkov

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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 12/10/2009 22:59:11
What tools do you use to paint and colour your work Nova? I do digital artwork and graphic design for my degree work but I've never quite got shading tones down, what techniques do you use?

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TBH I thought they would teach these sort of things in school, but i learned this methood from watching others mostly.

You start with a greyscale picture or generate an object thats defined by greyscale alone, if you cannot get a picture to look like the black and white of what your working on then you need to study light values some more I suggest taking photos from the web or video and convert to b&w and observe how things are highlighed and shaded.

Your next layer is textures (which i omitted im not good with those yet) and you overlay that down onto the picture so it bleed the texture though and appropiately applies the shade and lighitng from underneat on the new texture and basically inherits everything you want it to do.

Then you add the source light (the one light thats giving the object all of its shade and highlight) layer color which will be a solid and you illumonsity it or overlay it whatever looks fitting. So if its a fire it be red, sun typically white yellow or white blue or white ect ect.

Then you do a solid color paint over layer of what you want the final colors to look like and overlay once again. This will give you similar results to what I made causing all colors to be perfectly preshaded for you, if you hate the colors go back to normal on that layer and bucket it to a different shade until you get the right one.

You can then go a step further and merging a copy of those layers and do a multiply layer and screen layer and erase the areas on multiply for undesired shade and erase areas on the screen layer for places you dont want highlighted.

Localized lighting on the windows are done on three seperate layers, one source, one source glow which is a copy of the first layer with slight blue and screen or any other brigtening effect and one local illumination which is another copy erased, blured, pushed to conture the nearby shapes and refined to look fitting.

Another thing you can do to make it reflective is to take the background inverse it and reverse it and shrink and transform it down onto the and overlay and control transperancy until it looks just right.

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Originally by: Irida Mershkov

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Hmm, I see. I've worked a bit with colour but with my drawing style that I use for my graphics work, colour is either missing or bleached down to a more monotone effect (think the 1984 film) as that's how I generally work, and now I've moved onto the more vibrant pieces to use with colour, I've been thinking for alternative ways to do it and other methods, generally I can do it fine, but it takes me a while and your colour tones in particular are pretty strong and work nicely, so tips are much appreciated.

Admittedly though I don't work with strong colour very much, so I'm still trying to get used to it and more fluid but thanks for the tips mate, much appreciated.

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Originally by: Nova Fox

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hmm a mobile wormhole base...

sounds like a good idea for the main capitol ship.

I dont want to fit covert ops on these ships at all as I dont want to really step on the covert ops toes.

I am trying to figure out how much more agile they should be, thier low sig radius and increased defense layers give it survivability beyond most exposed covert ops.

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Originally by: Nova Fox

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Edited by: Nova Fox on 22/10/2009 08:51:48
Ive begun construction on the jump capable capitol ship

-Main role will be a mobile wormhole base basically.
-Lower Mass
-It will be be roomy enough for a single battleship and a few cruisers in launch bays so not to rival the carrier's 2 battleship capacity.
-Decent amount of cargo room inside.
-Decent drone bonus (sub par to domi) for self defense (no fighters though) and enough drone hanger to keep them fielded.
-Possibly a Resist bonus to make it 'survivable' but it will have lower hp than a carrier regardless.
-New Factory type module, allows fullerite compression similar to the roquel's ore compression. Fullrite compression lowers its mass and m3 making it easier to bring back home for reprocessing.
-A 'fullerite bay' to allow storage of fullerite.

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Originally by: Tomarrion Altor

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Wow, great work, great idea...Hope we live to see it ingame.

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Originally by: Dacryphile

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Originally by: Nova Fox

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Edited by: Nova Fox on 22/10/2009 08:51:48
Ive begun construction on the jump capable capitol ship

-Main role will be a mobile wormhole base basically.
-Lower Mass
-It will be be roomy enough for a single battleship and a few cruisers in launch bays so not to rival the carrier's 2 battleship capacity.
-Decent amount of cargo room inside.
-Decent drone bonus (sub par to domi) for self defense (no fighters though) and enough drone hanger to keep them fielded.
-Possibly a Resist bonus to make it 'survivable' but it will have lower hp than a carrier regardless.
-New Factory type module, allows fullerite compression similar to the roquel's ore compression. Fullrite compression lowers its mass and m3 making it easier to bring back home for reprocessing.
-A 'fullerite bay' to allow storage of fullerite.

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Why involve the fullerite? Doesn't that make it just another industrial ship rather than an exploration vessel?

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Originally by: Nova Fox

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Originally by: Dacryphile

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Ive begun construction on the jump capable capitol ship

-Main role will be a mobile wormhole base basically.
-Lower Mass
-It will be be roomy enough for a single battleship and a few cruisers in launch bays so not to rival the carrier's 2 battleship capacity.
-Decent amount of cargo room inside.
-Decent drone bonus (sub par to domi) for self defense (no fighters though) and enough drone hanger to keep them fielded.
-Possibly a Resist bonus to make it 'survivable' but it will have lower hp than a carrier regardless.
-New Factory type module, allows fullerite compression similar to the roquel's ore compression. Fullrite compression lowers its mass and m3 making it easier to bring back home for reprocessing.
-A 'fullerite bay' to allow storage of fullerite.

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Why involve the fullerite? Doesn't that make it just another industrial ship rather than an exploration vessel?

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Originally by: Neckbeard Griefmonger

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While I like that last idea of being able to stabilize an unstable wormhole, I don't think it is necessary. People already have solved that problem logistically by collapsing all the new wormholes when they want to cut off contact, and leaving through a fresh wormhole when they are ready to bounce.

Also, while it is nice to have solid wormhole functionality, I think it should work well in for the 0.0 explorer as well. Maybe instead of a ore hold which basically makes it another orca, it could have an ammo hold that stores it in a more efficient fashion.

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