ridiculous suggestion to turn FW into more fail nullsec warfare .

Goons trolling FW now. How quaint....

Did you watch the FW presentation at Fanfest?

Not a bad idea, but they have a general roadmap that is equally not bad which doesn't include 0.0-style outposts.

My apologies then. I just get the heckles when people start suggesting features that results in structure shooting. And that's what alot of people would object to with your suggestion.

Alot of the current FW players want a solution that will:

a) avoid structure shooting
b) mitigate blob warfare
c) encourage LPmaking through PVP

The prevention of docking in enemy stations is a toss up and split down the middle. Some want it because it gives more immersion. Others hate it because it's a nuisance to casual pvp and/or RL priorities.

And yes, the presenter was shooting at the hip. Fortunately, he did say nothing was set in stone. Unfortunately, this is CCP being CCP and not always listening to the playerbase.

A random internet commenter had a good idea.

There is a better way for Factional Warfare to flip sov/ownership: Turn the current static Bunkers into Nullsec-style Outposts, dockable only by the owning Militia. No need to lock off already-existing stations. No getting alts involved. Allow this Outpost to give certain benefits to owning militia; tax-free production, free repairs and clones, etc. Systems turned by putting this Outpost into reinforced, and popping it 24 hours later. Give it sentry guns to impede enemy camping. Make it a tactically important little piece of floating property. If your stuff is inside when the system turns, fight for it back, or jump into a clone inside. Give it cloning facilities, with the new owner able to revoke clone contracts.

This is a simple, easy way to tackle factional warfare.

Best idea till now

I just hope they tweek the plexing alittle so one time zone cant lock a system out in seven hours before another logs on.
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I dont think that having stations in all FW systems is a good idea.

However, replacing the current FW miliita stations with conquerable stations could be an added feature.

It does nothing of the sort. Nothing. When you lose an Outpost/system in Nullsec you are completely ****** and inable to live in that system whatsoever until your blob alliance retakes it, if they ever do. In the proposed system, the owning of the Outpost simply gives the owning militia an advantageous position from which to continue the effort of war and death in that system (and systems nearby) by providing a relatively safe, beneficial location to dock up that the enemy can't touch. It doesn't stop the enemy docking elsewhere in system, basing their ships elsewhere in system, getting repairs or staging from that system, like it would in Nullsec; this just gives you a clear, immediate and tangible benefit in the form of free repairs, tax-free market transactions, and free cloning (among others), in a station that is harder to camp by turds with instalocking arty Tornados, of which I am one.

As for the structure-bashing, this already exists and there really isn't any fair way to do it. By giving these "Garrisons" a reinforcement timer it at the very least allows the defending militia time to prepare a fleet ops. Militias love timing fleet ops because often fighting in militia is an irritating quagmire of random people being on at random times. Knowing the system will become vulnerable in 12 or 24 hours gives you time to plan accordingly and put together some impressive defense fleets that we currently almost exclusively get during POS attacks which are boring as hell. It also means a system can't be turned in 7-8 hours by a handful of dedicated people with too much time on their hands, which is currently the case.

To expand on the idea you can keep the current plexing mechanics of constant plexing causing the system's sov to deteriorate until a certain point is reached in which the owning NPC empire begins to pull out of the system after taking too many losses and the Garrison Outpost goes into a 24-hour timer, after which point the enemy militia may assault and incap it, turning the system. It'd be up to the defending militia as the ~last line of defense~ to stop this from happening.

~The Notorious Z.V.

The whole point of RF timers was to prevent timezone warfare, while there is some of that present in FW today, CCP can simply tweak the amount of VP/plexes needed to make a system vulnerable, rather than making a RF timer so that small gang pvp is still "in".

At most CCP should deny station services and have station guns fire on the WT of the opposing faction if they aggress someone on the station.

Originally I was up in the air about the idea behind not being able to dock in enemy stations. I of course think it's silly that a WT can dock in a station owned by a faction they are at war against but I also understand FW is more casual in play style.

However until CCP comes up with a better solution for system captures that doesn't allow for time zone ganking of systems then I'm against the no docking idea. Example, yesterday when I left for work Brarel was completely de-contested. About 9 hours later when I came home the system had been flipped in the middle of the night by Gallente.

( I left for work @ about 21:00 eve time and the system was captured at 3:11. That means the system was flipped and bunker blown up in less than 7 hours)

Much the same thing happened in Agoze & Intaki as they used support of Minmatar with a combined fleet of some 80 players to lock out the systems for a few hours allowing them to flip them. Vey will likely be done the same way as will Annacale.. Quick flips when they have numbers advantage. There was very little fighting just proof that these changes will encourage more blob shooting structures & less fighting for systems once LP is involved.

Caldari has done the same with system captures as well, so it's not like Gals are alone in this but it's clear the current plex mechanics now allow a side to flip a system in only a few hours thanks to the constant resupply of plex spawns every 20 mins.

this means in the time that the average player spends at work or asleep he could come home or wake up the next day not having access to his stuff. While I'm all for making things matter, I must also lean toward the idea that this is still a game and needs to be enjoyable.

At this point I think CCP should not take away docking rights once a system is flipped as they will just encourage blobbing out systems for a few hours ensuring there is no fights to be had and just gives the system captures to the side that can form the biggest blob for a few hours..

At most CCP should deny station services and have station guns fire on the WT of the opposing faction if they aggress someone on the station.

They want to shoot each other