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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 11:02:00 -
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I dont have the necc skills to get a ship for strip mining. but i have a behemoth..can i equip a strip miner I on it? I have a hard point available but am just currious if you NEED to equip it on mining barges
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Sidus
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Posted - 2008.09.17 11:11:00 -
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strip miners can only be used on Mining Barges
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C4LYP50
HeXstoof
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Posted - 2008.09.17 11:12:00 -
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As far as I'm aware, a tech 1 strip miner takes about 12000 cpu, and a tech 2 takes about 13,200. Mining barges get a special 99.9(65?) reduction in the cpu requirements, so I don't THINK you could fit it on a Bestower. I may have the numbers slightly wrong (maybe I'm thinking of Ice harvesters), but I'm pretty sure the concept is the same.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 12:27:00 -
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ok guess ill have top wait like a month to lear n skills to lv 5 lol
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Nekopyat
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:58:00 -
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In theory you could put strip miners on a ship other then a barge, but in reality no ship has the 12,000CPU needed to pull off such a feat, so no, you can't put a strip miner on a non barge.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.09.17 17:27:00 -
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A month for what? You canuse retriever ,you need mining barge 3 and astrogeology 4 and industry 5 ,i think only problem is industry 5 for retriever if you have not got yet
 Originally by: Ash Phoenix
ok guess ill have top wait like a month to lear n skills to lv 5 lol
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.09.17 17:50:00 -
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i got a strip miner and it totally didn't work the way i thought it would 
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:03:00 -
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ouch if i need ind 5 its a 49 day skill to train! lol maybe ill try something else ;)
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
ouch if i need ind 5 its a 49 day skill to train! lol maybe ill try something else ;)
... do you not have any learning skills trained and an int/mem of 3 or something? Is it even possible to take 49 days to train a rank 1 skill to level 5?
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Hysenthlay
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:17:00 -
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49 day skill to train! 
You need to get some learning skills heh.
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Ascuris Wurm
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
ouch if i need ind 5 its a 49 day skill to train! lol maybe ill try something else ;)
49 days for a rank 1 skill to V? Go directly to learning skills... do not pass Go, do not collect 200 isk.
Seriously, it will help you in the long run.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:21:00 -
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well i have learning at lv 4 already lol bot sure why its that long then..I have no implants if that makes a huge diff...are there other LEARNING skills other that./...learning?
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Ascuris Wurm
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:25:00 -
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There are 2 learning skills for each attribute, one a rank 1, and one a rank 3 that requires the rank 1 to level IV. Start with Instant Recall which will increase your memory. All the rank 1 learning skills use memory as the primary. Then do Analytical Mind which will raise your intelligence. While you are training those, download EveMon and check out the rest...
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:30:00 -
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wow I jsut saw all the bonus per lv..I wonder if these were out when i last played lol Of CORSE the ones that I need to help boost the skills I NEED are 4.5 mill a pop lol
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Wayson
Minmatar
Trans Nebula Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:32:00 -
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If your attributes are that jacked up - seriously how the hell is it a 49 day skill? - then your best bet is probably to re-roll at this point and choose a character more suited to mining. I'm assuming you've not been playing particularly long so this shouldn't be a massive loss to you, and will benefit you in terms of training time immensely.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 18:50:00 -
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I [played for a long time at launch so tehres no way im rerolling lol My stats are 15 8 6 6 6 . guess thats why its taking so long to train that one skill to 5 lol I wont be able to raise them wither for awhile since the friggin skill books are 4 mill a piece lol Im learnign the others now..i dont think last i played there was anythign other than leanring..which is why i hadit to lv 4. ;)
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Ho HsienKo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:04:00 -
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did you say you have been playing EVE since launch and you have yet to train any learning skills other than "Learning".
This must be the best Troll EVAH!!! Or you rode the short spaceship to school.
If it is true you are probably looking at a missing 30 Mil skill points compared to where you would be if you had trained at least all tier 1 and all tier 2 to a level of 3 or 4.
I personally don't have to worry about Learning skills, I have trained all Tier 1 and 2 to 5. Unless they bring in new learning skills (please don't).
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Ascuris Wurm
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:09:00 -
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Ash has not been playing since launch, but said they played a lot at launch. According to bio, took a long break and is just now getting back into the game. I think Ash is right... I don't think they did have all the learning skills back then.
Wurm
"It's never too late to be what you could have been"
-George Eliot
Especially in Eve-Online
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:23:00 -
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Yah I deff would have trained these skills if they were there lol I had learning to lv 4 just becuase i knew how handy it was ;) Im going to train all these to at least lv 3 before i continue with all these NEWER skills lol I have almost 900 skill points so Ive been AWAL for 5 years ;)
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Ho HsienKo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
Yah I deff would have trained these skills if they were there lol I had learning to lv 4 just becuase i knew how handy it was ;) Im going to train all these to at least lv 3 before i continue with all these NEWER skills lol I have almost 900 skill points so Ive been AWAL for 5 years ;)
Sorry, my bad ; ]
Yes the learning skills are very useful for speeding up your training! Though it can be a pain in the rear to force yourself to keep steadily working them up as they have no direct bearing on what you can shoot/fit/fly, but instead make those steps faster for you.
Its like putting money in the bank and trying to gain interest on it, when you would rather be spending it on shoes and clothes ; ]
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Diversity 101
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:39:00 -
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900 skill points?
Seriously new characters created now starts off with so so much more.
Do a test on a spare character slot and see what you can come up - there are templates around the internet that lists the best choices to make at each stage depending on your profession.
If you haven't trained any skill for the last three to four years, it's not a hardship at all. The bonus is that the current character can trade all the assets and isk over to any new character you make and enjoy.
There are now 11 learning skills to train. New characters get at least three of them I think. But still, run some tests, make a note of all your skills on your current character and see how much the new characters can get. Also the tutorials have been improved a great deal as well, this also gets you to a better frigate much much sooner, by having better rewards and more expensive bounties. The minimum rat bounty back then was 100isk - now it's more like a few thousand.
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Ho HsienKo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sidrat Flush
900 skill points?
Seriously new characters created now starts off with so so much more.
Do a test on a spare character slot and see what you can come up - there are templates around the internet that lists the best choices to make at each stage depending on your profession.
If you haven't trained any skill for the last three to four years, it's not a hardship at all. The bonus is that the current character can trade all the assets and isk over to any new character you make and enjoy.
There are now 11 learning skills to train. New characters get at least three of them I think. But still, run some tests, make a note of all your skills on your current character and see how much the new characters can get. Also the tutorials have been improved a great deal as well, this also gets you to a better frigate much much sooner, by having better rewards and more expensive bounties. The minimum rat bounty back then was 100isk - now it's more like a few thousand.
Are you a troll?
This man tells the truth, I think the minimum a new character starts out with is 200 Thousand skill points.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:48:00 -
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sorry I meant to say 900k skill points heheh
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Diversity 101
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Posted - 2008.09.17 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Sidrat Flush on 17/09/2008 19:54:24
so you have less than a million skill points yet you are over 4 years old.
I'd start a new character if I were you. The game has changed a lot over said time and refreshing the old knowledge wouldn't go amiss either.
The tutorials are better than they were, the rats are better than they were and really you won't lose a darn thing.
good luck.
ps - new characters can start with up to 900K skill points or so, but that's not as important as knowing the exact skills a trader/miner character comes out with on day one. Write down your current skill list. Create a new character, use a template if you want to - that will get you the best attributes with the best starting skills for your chosen profession. Again good luck.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 20:01:00 -
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heres a potentially dumb question..T1 learning skills that say give one point per lv to perception..I see theres more than one skill that adds perception..do BOTH skills add 1 point per lv?
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
heres a potentially dumb question..T1 learning skills that say give one point per lv to perception..I see theres more than one skill that adds perception..do BOTH skills add 1 point per lv?
As stated in a post above, there are 2 skills for each attribute. And yes you get 1 point per level for each skill, for a maximum possible +10 to each attribute. The 4.5m isk skillbooks you are looking at require the basic to be trained to lv 4 anyway, so you should buy the cheap ones and get the basic skills training asap.
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testyperson
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Posted - 2008.09.17 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: testyperson on 17/09/2008 20:55:44
If it's true that you got 900.000 Skillpoints then you'd might want to know that it's around that amount completely new characters start with these days (just made a char to test it, ~812k SP at creation). So unless you got any specific reason to stick with your current character then it might be an idea to restart with some more balanced attributes (either aiming for having all stats equal or all stats equal and minimum charisma)
(edit; well... first time i've had 2 chars on an account, and i manage to post with the wrong one ^_^)
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Siberys
Gallente
Nebula Sharks
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Posted - 2008.09.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: testyperson
Edited by: testyperson on 17/09/2008 20:55:44
If it's true that you got 900.000 Skillpoints then you'd might want to know that it's around that amount completely new characters start with these days (just made a char to test it, ~812k SP at creation). So unless you got any specific reason to stick with your current character then it might be an idea to restart with some more balanced attributes (either aiming for having all stats equal or all stats equal and minimum charisma)
(edit; well... first time i've had 2 chars on an account, and i manage to post with the wrong one ^_^)
As a general note, if you've got only one account, work for an all-rounder so you can play anything without logging off. If you're rich enough to get multiple accounts that's a good time to specialize.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.17 22:03:00 -
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hmmm why cant i see a T1 Perception skill?
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Siberys
Gallente
Nebula Sharks
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Posted - 2008.09.17 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
hmmm why cant i see a T1 Perception skill?
It's called 'Spacial Awareness'
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SSgt Sniper3
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Posted - 2008.09.17 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Phoenix
ouch if i need ind 5 its a 49 day skill to train! lol maybe ill try something else ;)
Industry 5 should be ten or so days with no learning.
INDUSTRIAL 5 can take a while if you have low learnings.
You want the first one.
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Benco97
Gallente
The Star League
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Posted - 2008.09.17 23:59:00 -
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Pah, 40 something days is nothing, man up and hit that skillbook!
Why, I remember training for gallente indy V for SEVENTY TWO DAYS.
A number that big would make half you young'uns cancel your accounts..
Originally by: P'uck
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Reaver One
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.09.18 01:45:00 -
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I cannot believe how crass this topic is. How dare you come in here and talk about kiddie po...oh hang on...strip MINER...miner, got it.
Nevermind then.
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Ash Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:22:00 -
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well ive trained all the T1 learnign skills to at LEAST 2 and boy it sure took time off! i think im down to 10 days now hahah sweet tx for all the hel p guys! i think im gona train those learning to lv 4 ;)
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