Why is it so hard to see the potential good the PR campaign on this could be? "Players across EVE rise up to defeat the evil Goonswarm Empire"...Makes "EVE is Real" seem like a kiddie pool.

EDIT: Also, I agree that there are WAYYYYYYYYYYY too many ways this could go badly. Why not embrace one way that might go right?

Also, I love how much people love to hate Goons, and Goons love to hate pubbies and lord their elite status as PVP nullsec gods every chance they get; but when it comes to turning a PR disaster into a potential PR goldmine, while at the same time giving a legitimate reason for awesome, widescale factional warfare...all I hear are excuses, lame attempts at misdirection, and so much bittervet.

EVE is better than that. We don't need a large scale alliance, we just need the Anti-Swarm. Simple objective: cause damage to the Goonswarm whenever possible. You can do it solo, you can do it in a 1000 man PL fleet. Either way, lets grief the griefers. I mean, why not? Is real (at least as real as virtual gameplay is concerned) war not as fun as static fictional warfare?

Sorry, the pubbies already killed GoonSwarm

Classy tactic, diverting the thread into a pointless discussion (Who wouldn't say Roadhouse rules?). Your avoidance of the OP proves your fear. Man up, Goonswarm. Being top dog means your first to fall.

Classy tactic, diverting the thread into a pointless discussion (Who wouldn't say Roadhouse rules?). Your avoidance of the OP proves your fear. Man up, Goonswarm. Being top dog means your first to fall.

I'd hardly call Roadhouse pointless.

I've never seen it, but after reading the Wikipedia plot I can only say its a masterpiece.

[Why is turning a forum war between Goons and pubbies into a real EVE war a bad thing? I thought we all liked playing that internet spaceships game...

Do I detect the Goons are a bit peeved?

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Taking it to an ingame war means giving your approval to the Goon idea that their kind of forum / fanfest / etc behaviour is a valid way of "playing the game". By doing so you validate the idea, that bullying, coaxing for tears, pointing and laughing when someone is upset, and public humiliation of them on Fanfest are on the same level of "the game" as is making spaceships explode.

Whether doing so is a bad thing can be a matter of debate. Personally I would be hesitant. I value sportsmanship about pixelated explosions; however I do not value bullying those who are unable to show it when they lose. I would rather not reward the bullies by deliberately, out of my own initiative, giving them fun explosions. But whatever you think about it, before making any decisions you should realize that playing their game means accepting it as valid.

Think what James Dalton (Patrick Swayze) would do

Not seen that film since 1989 or 1990 all I remember is a guy with a motorcycle, black leather jacket and a pool cue oh and something to do with a bar. But Patrick Swayze was just following a script so no idea what Patrick Swayze would actually do.

The idea that this can only go two ways.

[quote=Andski]So what happened to Everyone's favorite Bob stalker, and Mittens mouthpiece(Alt?) Ladie Harlot?

Seems like her non stop diatribe died about the time Mitten decided to apologize? And I can't remember the last time that happened.....

Either the causehoars will cry so loudly that CCP and Sony's relationship may be damaged, EVE will suffer, and DUST will be a flop; OR, we use the upswing of anti-Goon fervor to generate legitimate and engaging In-Game RP, create an awesome PR moment for CCP, and show DUST players why EVE is the champion of bad***ery and emergent gameplay.

People who want to support Mittens in this should have stopped when he apologized, to make his apology more believable. Maybe some of them actually get that?

No, there weren't. As someone who has battled with depression and suicide, what was said is not acceptable coming from a political position of power; however, the player in question did not actually take his life (thank whatever deity you believe in, life is precious no matter what). Thus, we are left with a potential PR disaster. Why not use it for the good of the game? Who loses but Goonswarm? (Even then, that's debatable. Goons need us pubbies to grief.)

People who want to support Mittens in this should have stopped when he apologized, to make his apology more believable. Maybe some of them actually get that?