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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 08:40:00 -
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I've heard about tanks. Seen some tanks, shot volleys at tanks, tried to break tanks, but never actually managed to make a ship tank properly. I tried to armour tank my Brutix - it ate its cap. I tried to shield tank my Megathron, it got blown up by pirates. (Don't shoot me down about that, I learnt the hard way)
The Drake, I'd heard was a good ship to make a shield tank with (I like shield tanks, first line of defence and all that!), so I went and got one and got some advice on the forums how to fit it etc. It cost about 45 million in all, which I don't think is a hell of a lot really. Thats about 4 weekdays missioning in Empire for me, maybe less.
Whacked a lot of T2 shield gear on it, it has six mids, woohoo !
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship. I wanna get on the killboards, and not as a loss.
Got in a blob in low sec, sized up a smaller but highly technical enemy fleet (Goddamn Falcons!) and boom we are in combat.
The FCs Huginn got wasted, I must have missed the command to bug out and suddenly I'm a target for the enemy five ship fleet. Eeek ! Panic started to set in, I'm near enough the gate to jump, but I'm getting a message I've never seen before: You cannot jump due to your recent acts of aggression. Whaaaaaat ?!!?
The bad guys are shooting me, theres weapon fire all over my ship, its like a fireworks display. I've been here before, it normally ends in me being in a pod and then in a station. Just as the sinking feeling begins, I look at my shields, hang on, they're still at 90%. Quickly compare to how I would react in a mission and my brain spits out the answer - Don't panic. De target everything, wait, wait, shield still acceptably intact. JUMP !!
Whee, I'm out and ..... 85% shields. I just tanked five ships dps !
Now I'm not saying they were Death Stars or anything, but I'm pretty sure the way that Huginn went down, they weren't T1 frigs either. And I'm very happy, not being able to tank has been really p1ssing me off since I started playing.
Moral of the story: Go ask questions in Ships and Modules, those guys love to have a 'Fit Off' with each other and they really know what they are talking about, they have been at each others throats for years.
Other moral of the story: Faction Warfare PvP rocks! If you think Eve is getting a little dull and you haven't tried it, DO IT NOW !!!
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Havohej
Minmatar
Comply Or Die
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.18 08:52:00 -
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I love you.
Wait 'til you really start learning and getting good, get your overview sorted and learn to recognize ship names and associate the name with the threat (that is, what you can expect it to do to you and what you need to do to it)... you'll love pvp even more 
 Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:20:00 -
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Moral of this story:
If you want to enjoy PVP. Fly a ship that doesn't blow up easily.
Makes sense.
Till you end up being the dude that has to shoot at a Drake...
Fun that is.
Can't neut it, Can't blow it up, you can tank its damage but it just sits there. Being annoying.
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Ervol Libra
Amarr
Invenio Inceptum
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship.
HAHAHA ROFL DUDE THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
DPS is something a Drake does NOT have.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:27:00 -
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Don't you just love ending up in a 1v1-situation versus a passive drake in a ship that cant push 900dps? xD
Black Hand.
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Havohej
Minmatar
Comply Or Die
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: Liberator 1
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship.
HAHAHA ROFL DUDE THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
DPS is something a Drake does NOT have.
Meh go easy on him, he admitted he's a noob
Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:35:00 -
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T2 launchers and faction missiles ? Ballistic control sytem ?
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Don't you just love ending up in a 1v1-situation versus a passive drake in a ship that cant push 900dps? xD
Or face 3 drakes... Nothing happens because they are all just tank. ^_^
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Don't you just love ending up in a 1v1-situation versus a passive drake in a ship that cant push 900dps? xD
Or face 3 drakes... Nothing happens because they are all just tank. ^_^
or then they are 600+ dps ham drakes with ehp of a BS 
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:47:00 -
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Think I've hit a nerve.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Don't you just love ending up in a 1v1-situation versus a passive drake in a ship that cant push 900dps? xD
Or face 3 drakes... Nothing happens because they are all just tank. ^_^
or then they are 600+ dps ham drakes with ehp of a BS
This.
Hell I don't even have great missile skills and I can push over 500 dps out of a HAM drake with just over 100k ehp.
But even if they're bad DPS, heavily tanked mission drakes, it's annoying to fight against them.
If I'm in a HAC or something, 3-4 drakes is not something I am thrilled about, because I know that even if I (or my smallish fleet of similar ships) can take them out at all, it's going to be a long time, during which they will collectively deal out 600+ dps to one of us (which sucks) and will be calling reinforcements (which sucks).
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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TZeer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: Liberator 1
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship.
HAHAHA ROFL DUDE THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
DPS is something a Drake does NOT have.
Well, technically, it does have DPS, just not a whole lot of it
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: Liberator 1
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship.
HAHAHA ROFL DUDE THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
DPS is something a Drake does NOT have.
Well, technically, it does have DPS, just not a whole lot of it
HAM DRAKE D:
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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whisk
Gallente
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.09.18 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: Liberator 1
Anyway, I'm a noob FW blobber, I've been mainly scouting just to get used to it and this is my first real DPS/combat ship.
HAHAHA ROFL DUDE THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
DPS is something a Drake does NOT have.
Well, technically, it does have DPS, just not a whole lot of it
some one just got owned
Adapt or Die
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.18 10:09:00 -
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to be honest 5 people is not a blob :P
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:01:00 -
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Say what you like, I love my Big Shieldy Drake. Ner !
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:30:00 -
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I hear a Drake is what you get if you pilot a gank Thorax through a black hole.
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Squelch
Crowd Control
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1
Think I've hit a nerve.
I lol'd
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 18/09/2008 11:45:03
Ill give you a 7/10 for the subtlety used on a NERF DRAKES!1!! thread. Creative troll.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.09.18 12:31:00 -
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The OP asked for help fitting a Drake for PVP in S&M. He was given the usual HAM Drake advice, together with certain niche ewar and sensor support fits. He then stated that he'd learnt a lot, but decided anyway to bring this badly-fit mission Drake into PVP:
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Well, having distilled the best fitting help from your expert knowledge, I took my Drake (named Drake-ular) into combat last night, no action though. Went out again this morning and got abandoned by the fleet at a gate. There were five other ships, I really didn't have time to see what they were but they had already put the FC out of action in his Huggin.
This is the fit:
7 Limos Heavy Launchers, 1 Drone Link Augmentor
3 T2 Invulnerabilty, 3 T2 Large Shield Ext
3 T2 Power Diag, 1 Damage Control.
Yeah. I think I understand why the FC abandoned him.
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Yeah. I think I understand why the FC abandoned him.
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Evanade
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:51:00 -
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One heavy neut = no more hardeners on drake = no more tank. They're not *that* hard to kill.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Evanade
One heavy neut = no more hardeners on drake = no more tank. They're not *that* hard to kill.
…so you run them without using hardeners.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Yeah. I think I understand why the FC abandoned him.
I dunno - everyone else took off, he sat there and kept the opposing ships busy, and lived to tell about. I've taken down my share of uber-tanked drakes and while they are mostly harmless offensively they do make fantastic tanks against any force stupid enough to primary them.
@ the OP: Put ship types on your overview. Just do it.
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Liberator 1 on 18/09/2008 14:15:48
Originally by: Mankirks Wife
Originally by: Gypsio III
Yeah. I think I understand why the FC abandoned him.
I dunno - everyone else took off, he sat there and kept the opposing ships busy, and lived to tell about. I've taken down my share of uber-tanked drakes and while they are mostly harmless offensively they do make fantastic tanks against any force stupid enough to primary them.
@ the OP: Put ship types on your overview. Just do it.
Exactly Mr erm Wife, or should that be Mrs Wife?
The FC got blasted, I think thats why there was no clear instruction to get out. I was busy dealing with Falcon boy who was screwing with my lock and didn't notice my mates had all bailed. As for ship types, I take your point. Wilco.
Edit: I am still suffering (or enjoying) adrenalin whiteout during these engagements, going from carebear to PvPist is erm exciting to say the least. Thats why the details are hard to focus on in the heat of battle.
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:19:00 -
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Oh, and whilst I am having a rant amongst all the flameage, I'm trying to wave the flag for PvP and FW, surely thats a good thing ????
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the Entity
Fah King Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:19:00 -
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i once lost a drake to a 10? man tri camp -took tehm over 8 mins to kill me,shame they bumped me from the gate 
dont listen to them op, as long as u got a rush and enjoyed it,good for you!
dont feed the squirrels!
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Evanade
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Evanade
One heavy neut = no more hardeners on drake = no more tank. They're not *that* hard to kill.
àso you run them without using hardeners.
With passive hardeners only the tank potential drops dramatically so it's dead either way.
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Researcher Qual
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:58:00 -
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what's the setup you're using, just out of curiosity?
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.18 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Evanade
With passive hardeners only the tank potential drops dramatically so it's dead either way.
Meh… pick your poison: ~10% less tank or a vulnerability to cap warfare that will reduce your tank by 50%…
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