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MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:10:00 - [1] Shannelle, is online 24/7 in 74- I've petitioned and waiting for a reply, whenever I enter the system, she cloaks, almost instantly. We have been trying to catch this little sod for ages, I know its a BOT, dont tell me otherwise. I wonder if this sort of thing happens a lot recently, farming isk for wars using bot's. Let the flames commence.
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:14:00 - [2] How do you know it's a bot and not 2 players using the same char when one goes to bed ?
Lady XTC	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:16:00 - [3] Account sharing isn't legal anyway.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:17:00 - [4] i have other issues with russians but farming couldnt be farther from being _it_. they don't have to that much... they lose less by a) not fighting unless outnumbering gravely or b) remote repping veeery well. - putting the gist back into logistics
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:18:00 - [5] It's a fact that all people who use bots are either Russian or Chinese. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:22:00 - [6] I'm not being racist here, its a russian corp, and russian space.
Agor Dirdonen	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:22:00 - [7] So..? go to the same system, go to a safespot and sit there cloaked till she decides to come out again. Either she doesn't come out and you're blocking here from farming or she decides that she can risk it as you are always there anyway and gives you an opportunity to catch her.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Agor Dirdonen So..? go to the same system, go to a safespot and sit there cloaked till she decides to come out again. Either she doesn't come out and you're blocking here from farming or she decides that she can risk it as you are always there anyway and gives you an opportunity to catch her. Did you actually READ my comment, stop being a ****.
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:32:00 - [9] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Agor Dirdonen So..? go to the same system, go to a safespot and sit there cloaked till she decides to come out again. Either she doesn't come out and you're blocking here from farming or she decides that she can risk it as you are always there anyway and gives you an opportunity to catch her. Did you actually READ my comment, stop being a ****. Jump in, she cloaks, You cloak Wait. Use an alt if don't want to waste time with ya main. or STFU about stuff you have a Idea on and no real proof to back up your post. So the char is online 23/7 big deal, connecting from the same IP every day? same user? if the char cloaks when you enter the system, how do you know what there doing in system if your not in it. Proof.. It's lacking.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:33:00 - [10] Edited by: MaDeX on 18/09/2008 16:33:39 Originally by: Lori Carlyle Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Agor Dirdonen So..? go to the same system, go to a safespot and sit there cloaked till she decides to come out again. Either she doesn't come out and you're blocking here from farming or she decides that she can risk it as you are always there anyway and gives you an opportunity to catch her. Did you actually READ my comment, stop being a ****. Jump in, she cloaks, You cloak Wait. Use an alt if don't want to waste time with ya main. or STFU about stuff you have a Idea on and no real proof to back up your post. So the char is online 23/7 big deal, connecting from the same IP every day? same user? if the char cloaks when you enter the system, how do you know what there doing in system if your not in it. Proof.. It's lacking. Wrecks, raven on scan for like 20 seconds, then nothing.. I'm not going to respond to you no more, you make me angry.
Zun Da Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:34:00 - [11] 24/7, eh? And that is proof for being a bot? Cloaking instantly? And you know that how? With other words, you are incompetent and therefore the other one has to be a bot?
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:36:00 - [12] I'm befuddled as to how you're 100% sure it's a bot. warp drive active \| nature vraie
TCup Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:36:00 - [13] Suprised you forgot to mention logofski while you were at it...
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Zun Da 24/7, eh? And that is proof for being a bot? Cloaking instantly? And you know that how? With other words, you are incompetent and therefore the other one has to be a bot? Because they dont respond in email, no convo's nothing.. Just a raven, shooting rats 24/7.
Victor Kruger	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:37:00 - [15] Personally, I blame Putin --------------- Hey, where's my portrait
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:38:00 - [16] Originally by: MaDeX I'm not going to respond to you no more, as you punch holes in my perfect idea backed up with so much proof there is nothing else it could be and it makes me angry that very few will agree with me due my idea being really stupid. Fixed that for you. Now go run along and cry about it.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:39:00 - [17] Edited by: Faife on 18/09/2008 16:39:04 Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Zun Da 24/7, eh? And that is proof for being a bot? Cloaking instantly? And you know that how? With other words, you are incompetent and therefore the other one has to be a bot? Because they dont respond in email, no convo's nothing.. Just a raven, shooting rats 24/7. can you blame them? you're a pretty terrible conversationalist. and i speak english. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Saint
Saniyya Najat	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:42:00 - [18] Sorry MaDeX, I'm w/the rest of the posters here. No proof, just your word and a description full of supposition....and an asshat attitude.
Richard Angevian The Crusaders.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:43:00 - [19] It's pretty well known that pet alliances like "AAA citizens" and "Ultima Rati0" are little more than thinly veiled fronts for macro farmers. Anyone who's lived in the South and seen their "gangs" has witnessed it first hand. Clearly CCP didn't nuke "bacon" that all they did was nuke the particular one that was made public.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:43:00 - [20] I knew I should have not posted here, eve forums contain such idiots -excluding myself.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Richard Angevian Clearly CCP didn't nuke "bacon" that all they did was nuke the particular one that was made public. oh look, it talks. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Saint
TCup Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:46:00 - [22] Edited by: TCup on 18/09/2008 16:48:26 Originally by: Richard Angevian It's pretty well known that pet alliances like "AAA citizens" and "Ultima Rati0" are little more than thinly veiled fronts for macro farmers. Anyone who's lived in the South and seen their "gangs" has witnessed it first hand. Clearly CCP didn't nuke "bacon" that all they did was nuke the particular one that was made public. Pretty well known according to whom? You would'ent have a main in an alliance that lives in Delve by any chance would you? That would mean you have a natural tendency to fling mud at your enemies of course... etc etc etc You see what I did there? How fast I learned from your in-depth, factually based method? EDIT: forgot to add a very well used acronym from not too long ago... It went something like... Proof, or stfu
Agor Dirdonen	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:47:00 - [23] Originally by: MaDeX I knew I should have not posted here, eve forums contain such idiots -excluding myself. Think you got that the other way around though. I actually gave you a way to combat her, others confirmed that but no, you have to act like an idiot. Fine, no problem for me. Have fun getting annoyed by the bot a bit more.
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:47:00 - [24] Originally by: MaDeX Because they dont respond in email, no convo's nothing.. Just a raven, shooting rats 24/7. And what did you send to that character? warp drive active \| nature vraie
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Agor Dirdonen Originally by: MaDeX I knew I should have not posted here, eve forums contain such idiots -excluding myself. Think you got that the other way around though. I actually gave you a way to combat her, others confirmed that but no, you have to act like an idiot. Fine, no problem for me. Have fun getting annoyed by the bot a bit more. Apparently, they are a well known farmer corp.. so maybe its not a bot, but a farmer where people take over the account.
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:50:00 - [26] Originally by: MaDeX I knew I should have not posted here, eve forums contain such idiots -excluding myself. Yet you did it anyway, whos the idiot again?
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: MaDeX Because they dont respond in email, no convo's nothing.. Just a raven, shooting rats 24/7. And what did you send to that character? A contract with 100 exotic dancers you nosey fool.
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:51:00 - [28] Originally by: MaDeX A contract with 100 exotic dancers you nosey fool. And this is why nobody responds to you. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: MaDeX A contract with 100 exotic dancers you nosey fool. And this is why nobody responds to you. :) 5 posts in 30 seconds mate, stfu. Anyway, we are loosing track here, I just think I have a valid point, lets hope the peition says something.
Reptzo Channel 4 News Team	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:55:00 - [30] Out of curiosity, how does the bot know to cloak??
Schwulette	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:56:00 - [31] Madex FTW
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:56:00 - [32] Originally by: Reptzo Out of curiosity, how does the bot know to cloak?? it's MaGIckAL Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Saint
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:56:00 - [33] Originally by: MaDeX 5 posts in 30 seconds mate, stfu. Anyway, we are loosing track here, I just think I have a valid point, lets hope the peition says something. I was referring to the target of your thread, not the people responding in here. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 16:57:00 - [34] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: MaDeX A contract with 100 exotic dancers you nosey fool. And this is why nobody responds to you. :) 5 posts in 30 seconds mate, stfu. Anyway, we are loosing track here, I just think I have a valid point, lets hope the peition says something. 5 posts in 30 seconds is Impressive, It's just such a shame that none of them agreed with you isn't it?
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:04:00 - [35] Originally by: Richard Angevian It's pretty well known that pet alliances like "AAA citizens" and "Ultima Rati0" are little more than thinly veiled fronts for macro farmers. Anyone who's lived in the South and seen their "gangs" has witnessed it first hand. Clearly CCP didn't nuke "bacon" that all they did was nuke the particular one that was made public. being in somewhat of a tenant alliance there, all i can say is... there is a (huge) language barrier with those guys - but that doesn't mean they're stoicly farming all day. if anything, those are pools for russian overlord recruitment. - putting the gist back into logistics
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:06:00 - [36] In past times, cloaking for an iskfarmer/ctrl-q could easily be setup with the logserver thingy, cant recall its name that everyone was so up over heels about that gave a sound warning when a red entered system, just as easy to send ctrl-q to your eve client =) Nowdays, the ease is probably still there if you spend some time investigating. And russian n chinese farmers/macros/metagaming/exploting every bit they can, whats new?
Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:08:00 - [37] There are isk sellers in the game. I'm reasonably sure of that because, well, there is isk for sale. Isk sellers are fairly well known to use account sharing, bots, and exploits(dupes, mainly) to get their isk. If you found one, and you petition it, you may at best get the account banned. You may also get some isk taken away from some buyers who can be traced back to the seller. Hell, you may even end up getting someone's Titan taken away if you get really lucky. Some isk buyers will be impacted. The isk sellers won't be at all. As long as they can fund an infinite pool of new accounts with GTCs purchased with isk, they'll have another one up and farming before the ink dries on your petition. CCP could stop much of it by nerfing GTC buying for isk, but then some big alliances would get a lot smaller, and the server that hosts the forums would start smoking. Bottom line, bud, is that you aren't going to make a dent in it. Be happy that rats aren't a finite resource, and if you want to you can go rat in that system and the farmer won't be able to. Don't waste your game time worrying about it.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Somealt Ofmine There are isk sellers in the game. I'm reasonably sure of that because, well, there is isk for sale. Isk sellers are fairly well known to use account sharing, bots, and exploits(dupes, mainly) to get their isk. If you found one, and you petition it, you may at best get the account banned. You may also get some isk taken away from some buyers who can be traced back to the seller. Hell, you may even end up getting someone's Titan taken away if you get really lucky. Some isk buyers will be impacted. The isk sellers won't be at all. As long as they can fund an infinite pool of new accounts with GTCs purchased with isk, they'll have another one up and farming before the ink dries on your petition. CCP could stop much of it by nerfing GTC buying for isk, but then some big alliances would get a lot smaller, and the server that hosts the forums would start smoking. Bottom line, bud, is that you aren't going to make a dent in it. Be happy that rats aren't a finite resource, and if you want to you can go rat in that system and the farmer won't be able to. Don't waste your game time worrying about it. Thank you, its just frustrating, im trying to earn a crust, and some russians are flying faction stuff, I dont see the fairness when I can blatantly see the obvious.
CaptainSensible Gulliver Corp Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:26:00 - [39] Madex = Win, TBH
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:30:00 - [40] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Somealt Ofmine There are isk sellers in the game. I'm reasonably sure of that because, well, there is isk for sale. Isk sellers are fairly well known to use account sharing, bots, and exploits(dupes, mainly) to get their isk. If you found one, and you petition it, you may at best get the account banned. You may also get some isk taken away from some buyers who can be traced back to the seller. Hell, you may even end up getting someone's Titan taken away if you get really lucky. Some isk buyers will be impacted. The isk sellers won't be at all. As long as they can fund an infinite pool of new accounts with GTCs purchased with isk, they'll have another one up and farming before the ink dries on your petition. CCP could stop much of it by nerfing GTC buying for isk, but then some big alliances would get a lot smaller, and the server that hosts the forums would start smoking. Bottom line, bud, is that you aren't going to make a dent in it. Be happy that rats aren't a finite resource, and if you want to you can go rat in that system and the farmer won't be able to. Don't waste your game time worrying about it. Thank you, its just frustrating, im trying to earn a crust, and some russians are flying faction stuff, I dont see the fairness when I can blatantly see the obvious. so flying faction means your an isk farmer? you've got a lot to learn mate.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:32:00 - [41] Originally by: MaDeX I dont see the fairness when I can blatantly see the obvious. Sorry, my English parser imploded on that one. Originally by: MaDeX I'm not going to respond to you no more, you make me angry. Doesn't really look like that's very hard to do. Someone from another country is ratting in a system you visit and ignoring you- Petition! Forumrage! Arrgghh!
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:35:00 - [42] blah blah, stfu trollbots
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:35:00 - [43] Originally by: CaptainSensible Madex = Win, TBH woop o/
Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:37:00 - [44] Originally by: MaDeX Thank you, its just frustrating, im trying to earn a crust, and some russians are flying faction stuff, I dont see the fairness when I can blatantly see the obvious. Yeah, I can tell that you're cheezed off, and I understand it. Eve is pretty harsh when it comes to making a living. Still needs to be fun though, or, why play, right? Careful about blaming it on "Some Russians" though. I could take a cloaking raven into Russian space tomorrow and as you have learned yourself, it would be damn tough for them to catch me, and, unless I was ratting in a low true-sec system that they actually care about, they probably wouldn't even try. It's a fair bet that there are alliances in the game who derive some of their power by benefiting from isk-farmers. You and I don't know that for sure, and there really isn't much we can do about it if we did. The lure of power and it's ability to corrupt human beings is well known, and isn't going anywhere. Best we can do is play our own game as we find it, and have fun, and if it isn't fun, move on to something that is.
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:38:00 - [45] Originally by: MaDeX blah blah, stfu trollbots Holy shit, now I'm a bot? Do you think there are there ANY players in eve apart from yourself?
Snake Doctor Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:38:00 - [46] Don't bother. It will do you no good to report them. The only thing you can do is exploit them. Join MacroIntel!
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:38:00 - [47] Originally by: Somealt Ofmine Originally by: MaDeX Thank you, its just frustrating, im trying to earn a crust, and some russians are flying faction stuff, I dont see the fairness when I can blatantly see the obvious. Yeah, I can tell that you're cheezed off, and I understand it. Eve is pretty harsh when it comes to making a living. Still needs to be fun though, or, why play, right? Careful about blaming it on "Some Russians" though. I could take a cloaking raven into Russian space tomorrow and as you have learned yourself, it would be damn tough for them to catch me, and, unless I was ratting in a low true-sec system that they actually care about, they probably wouldn't even try. It's a fair bet that there are alliances in the game who derive some of their power by benefiting from isk-farmers. You and I don't know that for sure, and there really isn't much we can do about it if we did. The lure of power and it's ability to corrupt human beings is well known, and isn't going anywhere. Best we can do is play our own game as we find it, and have fun, and if it isn't fun, move on to something that is. Ok, I like you, you win for the forums. Wish all posters was like you.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:41:00 - [48] Originally by: MaDeX blah blah, stfu trollbots I think this is where we all cloak and ignore you.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: MaDeX blah blah, stfu trollbots I think this is where we all cloak and ignore you. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ee_1221748307
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:47:00 - [50] Originally by: TCup Edited by: TCup on 18/09/2008 16:48:26 Originally by: Richard Angevian It's pretty well known that pet alliances like "AAA citizens" and "Ultima Rati0" are little more than thinly veiled fronts for macro farmers. Anyone who's lived in the South and seen their "gangs" has witnessed it first hand. Clearly CCP didn't nuke "bacon" that all they did was nuke the particular one that was made public. Pretty well known according to whom? Pretty well known by anyone who cares to go take a look in their space.
Lori Carlyle Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:49:00 - [51] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: MaDeX blah blah, stfu trollbots I think this is where we all cloak and ignore you. Made by Lori, Who can click the damn URL button.
Gorki Andropov FKL Combine	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:51:00 - [52] Edited by: Gorki Andropov on 18/09/2008 17:55:05 Rarely have I have encountered anything quite as asinine as this thread or, indeed, mAdEz himself (or however he spells it) edit: for clarity's sake, I am bemused that the OP thinks that the guy in question is a bot simply because he doesn't respond to convo requests or mails. WTF? I reject all chat requests, does that make me a bot too? ----------------------------------------------- 何だよ？こちらはFree　Kings　of Life!私たちは一番&#
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:55:00 - [53] Originally by: Gorki Andropov Rarely have I have encountered anything quite as asinine as this thread or, indeed, mAdEz himself (or however he spells it) i'm one of a kind mate, I'm looking for a 0.0 corp/alliance if anyones interested :D
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:56:00 - [54] Originally by: Gorki Andropov Edited by: Gorki Andropov on 18/09/2008 17:55:05 Rarely have I have encountered anything quite as asinine as this thread or, indeed, mAdEz himself (or however he spells it) edit: for clarity's sake, I am bemused that the OP thinks that the guy in question is a bot simply because he doesn't respond to convo requests or mails. WTF? I reject all chat requests, does that make me a bot too? Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:58:00 - [55] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Gorki Andropov Edited by: Gorki Andropov on 18/09/2008 17:55:05 Rarely have I have encountered anything quite as asinine as this thread or, indeed, mAdEz himself (or however he spells it) edit: for clarity's sake, I am bemused that the OP thinks that the guy in question is a bot simply because he doesn't respond to convo requests or mails. WTF? I reject all chat requests, does that make me a bot too? Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods. Nice to see some people are not ignorant, and see stuff for how it is, like im saying how it is.
Reptzo Channel 4 News Team	Posted - 2008.09.18 17:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Malcanis Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods. Obviously you don't live in soviet Russia, where the game plays you!
Gorki Andropov FKL Combine	Posted - 2008.09.18 18:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Gorki Andropov Edited by: Gorki Andropov on 18/09/2008 17:55:05 Rarely have I have encountered anything quite as asinine as this thread or, indeed, mAdEz himself (or however he spells it) edit: for clarity's sake, I am bemused that the OP thinks that the guy in question is a bot simply because he doesn't respond to convo requests or mails. WTF? I reject all chat requests, does that make me a bot too? Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods. What if I leave my computer on and connected to EVE 23/7 tho? DT here occurs at about lunchtime so it's perfectly feasible for me to be on basically all of the time. ----------------------------------------------- 何だよ？こちらはFree　Kings　of Life!私たちは一番&#
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.09.18 18:01:00 - [58] Originally by: Malcanis Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods. Mad Ex can. (How else would he know?) If, because Shannelle is always on when MaDeX is on therefore Shannelle is a bot...
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.18 18:02:00 - [59] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Malcanis Most humans can't stay awake 23 hours a day for extended periods. Mad Ex can. (How else would he know?) If, because Shannelle is always on when MaDeX is on therefore Shannelle is a bot... Yup I say so.

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