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Luther	Posted - 2004.06.17 10:54:00 - [31] yeah you were but in a childish way. =============================================== has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.06.17 10:55:00 - [32] Sara Parker is a babe. \o/ LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.06.17 10:56:00 - [33] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Sara Parker is a babe. \o/ Sarah Jessica Parker is best dressed woman in the world \o/ worship This is not a hijack
Sara Parker	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:00:00 - [34] Originally by: Krusty TheClone When you make changes this drastic a year after release (this aint ***** beta anymore) and effectively kick peoples skill training in the nuts they get kinda uptight. Its turning into a total Carebear game and all the people complaining are experience players who have probably podded your sorry ass Sarah and all the ones stating they love the patch are Veldspar hugging carebear noobs who cant look past their greedy little pigeon hole. Its so obvious by seeing comments like 'look at the pirates whine' or 'look at the BS pilots whine'. ** OFF , and realise the people stating tracking is whacked know more about every aspect of this game than you For the record my dear, I haven't been podded. In addition, I don't mine. I don't pay monthly to sit and watch rocks for hours on end. I prefer to be invovled in team activities within the corp. I don't deny that I still have much to learn about EVE, but the great thing about EVE is that it IS always changing. People are forced to learn to learn new skills, and to adapt their styles every once in a while. This gives the enw people comming in some kind of chance to get a footing in the game as well. The combined outcome is that it prevents the game from stagnating. If everyone ended up with a fantastic ship, with fantastic guns, and knew everything on how it all worked, tehre'd be no incentive for these people to stay in the game any longer. It would become boring. So, from that perspective, who really are the carebears? And quite frankly, your unecessarily aggressive reactions only prove my point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way.
Sara Parker	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:01:00 - [35] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Sara Parker is a babe. \o/ lol, thanks I guess! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way.
Luther	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:04:00 - [36] Edited by: Luther on 17/06/2004 11:06:18 Yeah but the guns are broke, they don't work, can you comprehend that you moron? there is no need to adapt to other weopons, there should be just a way to adapt to use the same old weapon in a different way, but atm they don't hit crap all, so they need a fix. nub =============================================== has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
Sara Parker	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:13:00 - [37] My understanding is that big guns won't hit smaller fast moving vessels, what's the problem with that? To me, that makes sense!? Using high energy/emission devices would quite obviously increase your signature radius dramatically and make you far easier to target and hit. To me, that also makes sense!? What appears to be happening is people with big battleships outfitted with all big guns are getting upset because that setup doesn't work very well anymore. To be honest, I can't see why it should ever have worked well in the first place. It's called tactics people. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way.
Sara Parker	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Luther Edited by: Luther on 17/06/2004 11:06:18 Yeah but the guns are broke, they don't work, can you comprehend that you moron? there is no need to adapt to other weopons, there should be just a way to adapt to use the same old weapon in a different way, but atm they don't hit crap all, so they need a fix. nub I also note that it's the more seasoned players (not all, only a minority) whom find it difficult to engage in a discussion without resorting to petty insults.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way.
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:16:00 - [39] My understanding is that big guns won't hit smaller fast moving vessels, what's the problem with that? To me, that makes sense!? Wich is why luther is right when he calls you a moron.
Sara Parker	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:19:00 - [40] Originally by: Iluyen My understanding is that big guns won't hit smaller fast moving vessels, what's the problem with that? To me, that makes sense!? Wich is why luther is right when he calls you a moron. So you think that uber large guns should be able to swat anything in their way? Geez, do you guys have any udnerstanding of real physics or ACTUAL reality at all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Empire, the Nobility, and the Amarrian way.
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:25:00 - [41] Edited by: Iluyen on 17/06/2004 11:29:37 Yes, apparently you do not. Btw if you were being shot so easy in frigates by BS before this patch it might have had something to do with you being a complete nub who is to stupid to fly a frigate.
Luther	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:26:00 - [42] As most people with a clue know, atm BS's cannot hit other BS's For a second time, i call you a moron, now stfu and get out this thread, you ain't got a problem with BS's not being able to hit others then who the hell wants you opinion, nub =============================================== has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
Alonza	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:31:00 - [43] "Example: Battleships not being able to hit ANYTHING except other battleships" "my friend was in his interceptor that he trained up for a month to fly, was killed by a megathron"
Estios	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:35:00 - [44] Edited by: Estios on 17/06/2004 11:38:52 Edited by: Estios on 17/06/2004 11:38:24 OMG Sara, although I wont get as agressive as some others here ...PLEASE LEARN TO READ !!!!!!!! Most of the people stating that Tracking has issues are talking about LARGE BS sized weapons which are struggling to hit OTHER BS's and cant touch cruisers Most of us dont care that our BS's cant hit frigs, they couldnt before and shouldnt now. They should however hit another BS almost everytime and hit a Cruiser at least 50 % of the time. Currently if you both are moving and at right angles you will hit another BS approx 25% of time and Cruiser never at all unless you start using half your slots for tracking mods. Edit: I mean correct trajectory angle and not right angle ie 90 degrees. WTF has Alonzo's statement got to do with anything. Because 1 frig got hit everything is ok ? Please unplug your keyboard or test what Im saying. So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
illuminati	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Sara Parker My understanding is that big guns won't hit smaller fast moving vessels, what's the problem with that? To me, that makes sense!? Omg, I cant stop laughing. It's more of a "I know now why there are religious fundamentalists and childabusers" than a "I think that was fun" kind of laugh. Could you please try to get a clue?
Temerlyn	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:50:00 - [46] Can i join in on the flame... I am one of the minority who adapts and overcomes and enjoys the changes. There is only one problem i have realy forseen. Lots of people say 425 hybrids and tachs now kick ass. It's the 1400 arts that are strugling. Thus there is possibly small problem there in the mathimatics or passing of values when that gun fires. before patch, i fit as much shield protection as i can, cap regen in low slots as i can, and as many guns as i can. Now i have a choice, shield and/or armour defense but sacrafice firepower. Or have firepower and sacrafice defense. What this means is that i forgo alot of the shield/armour tanking stuff and equip tracking modules etc. 2 low slot tarcking mods and 2 tracking comps should do pretty darn well (granted i haven't tested this fully yet). So it breeds more conceptial ship setups to make a more diverse fleet and general pvp setups. So are you the person who can take alot of damage but not dish it out? Or dish out the damage but not take much in return? Or do you wanna be a sheep and OWNZ everyone, or how ever you do that leet talk crap.
S3cret 4gent	Posted - 2004.06.17 11:56:00 - [47] Originally by: Stevo Why does this happen, why does ccp nerf everything that people have worked for? Example: Battleships not being able to hit ANYTHING except other battleships, unless you are using a drone ship or a ship using smaller weapons? ok ok I know im gunna get flamed but there has gotta be someone out there that agrees with me.... Seriously my friend was in his interceptor that he trained up for a month to fly, was killed by a megathron and with a MWD he is made out to be 25% bigger than the megathron that killed him? CCP why nerf things sooo drasticly? Why not nerf it a little bit and see what happens? Not just like "hey heres something, lets nerf it completly out and see what the players do! Yea thats a good idea!" Doesnt CCP get tired of play God? Hey this should be fun right? Throw something completly out of wack and unexpected into the game and see what happens... I know I cant be the only person that thinks things like this. Add your opinions and whatnot if you like. So you can't hit anything in your battleship and your intercpetor friend gets pwned by a someone in a megathtron who can. So you come here and cry about it . Your time would better spent learning a new setup before you get owned by someone who already has.
Reloaded INC	Posted - 2004.06.17 12:02:00 - [48] why do people not understand that a fuking projectile weapon has trouble tracking a small fast moving jet to be honest thats what frigates are in this game lets take the STAR WARS defense initive for example they are effectivly trying to hit a speeding bullet with a speeding bullet and this is only acheived by using a missle NOT A ROUND FROM A GUN u are all retarted i suggest u get a rifle from your father/uncle/brother ect and go try wtf pown a bird flying through the sky u will have great difficulty hitting it correct ? now lets take this context and apply it to eve which is based around current and futristic naval tactics. the main weapon of a battleship will not be able to hit a fast flying jet infact i seriously dought that it ever will. thats why they carry varrying amourment such as Surface to Air Missles and rapid firing turrets that fire a wall of lead at the target. please stop your childish fantasies of a battleships main armourment taking down a fast strike jet and pull your heads out of your arsses equip a few small or medium turrets maybe a small missles launcher ect ect to deal with fast and small incomming frigates as for cruisers use those ogres on them or stay at optimal range where your big guns will do their most damage YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE REALISE THIS FACT all through out warfare itis a tried and proven tactic of using small inexpensive ships to take down large capital ships if u cannot get your head arround this fact then u may as well not have children as your genetic code is so decayed we will end up devolving ! I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
Friday Dillinja	Posted - 2004.06.17 12:09:00 - [49] Originally by: Reloaded INC why do people not understand that a fuking projectile weapon has trouble tracking a small fast moving jet Why do people not learn to read what they complain about? Most of the complains were about Battleships not being able to hit other Battleships at optimal range. And this is a problem, don't you agree?
swisher	Posted - 2004.06.17 12:13:00 - [50] Problems is CCP just doesnt understand the word new content...so they always nerf the same old crap that we have been using for ages... as we can see now with is patch..CCP doesnt work..or they just have teenagers running there company. -swish
illuminati	Posted - 2004.06.17 12:16:00 - [51] Reloaded inc, your whole post is kind of VOID considering you still dont know what we're complaining about? It actually tells me more about your genepool than ours. I'll write it here again so a person of your skill and intelligence can read it: LARGE GUNS VS BATTLESHIPS LARGE GUNS VS CRUISERS And no actually the readinglamp I use for my head in my ass seems to work better than the one you have outside of yours, kthankz.
Draysea	Posted - 2004.06.17 13:19:00 - [52] CCP will obviously fix the problem with Battleships not being able to hit other battleships and cruisers. However, the original post was a complaint that CCP changes things drastically as opposed to taking "baby steps" with their patches. I agree with the fact that maybe they should take "baby steps" with their patches, but, the fact that they change things up drastically DOES add more excitement to the game. It lets other, less experienced players catch up to people who have been playing the game for a long time. Thus, increasing the player base by decreasing the massive learning curve when you log on to EVE for the first time. Most of the complaints in this thread are from experienced players who are crying because they are nolonger as powerful as they were before. This is what happens in RL when new weapons are developed. You have to adapt to the new technology to maintain the upper hand. If you want to waste people's time by complaining about the fact that your firepower is nolonger effective (except those complaining about the BS not hitting other BS's or cruisers which IS a bug, and a valid complaint)then maybe you should learn to adapt, as many have stated before, and train those new skills that will get you back on top. These changes are what makes EVE a better game than the others of it's kind out there, and make it unique. Most of you who are complaining will continue to play this game. And those of you who are foolish will pack up and quit, and move onto a game where everything stays the same. But a word to the wise...the games that stay the same do not last long. The games that change, add new elements to the game on an ongoing basis, and force their player base to adapt to the new environment will always continue to go strong.
Luther	Posted - 2004.06.17 14:17:00 - [53] Dreysea I see your wise in the power of the nub too, f*** off with the ghey "you must adapt" crap. The guns are broke, they need to be fixed, end of dit. We just went out killin 4 BS with missile boats, a frig and myself in a Rupture, so yeah we can do something different in the mean while, but that doesn't change the fact we want our GUN's FIXED. Draysea, I pronounce you nub =============================================== has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.06.17 14:20:00 - [54] Quote: Lots of people say 425 hybrids and tachs now kick ass. It's the 1400 arts that are strugling. Thus there is possibly small problem there in the mathimatics or passing of values when that gun fires. Temerlyn, That isn't correct. All of the guns suck. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2004.06.17 14:22:00 - [55] Let me spell it out for the nubsters. The only thing you can effectively hit another player battleship with if you yourself are in a battleship is tachs or megabeam lasers. Projectile battleship guns are not working as they should be. This has made a lot of people rather peeved, it seems. Me included. Got it? E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience.... http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u
Ribbo	Posted - 2004.06.17 15:13:00 - [56] you know i thought the whole point for interceptors was to move very fast, intercept, dodge fire and hold craft till backup arrived, thats why i thought they were put in game.. and i was happy with that, fleet tactics changed and more and more different ships were employed in fleets to counter, now intercetors are a LOT easier to kill, this i dont get, i presumed that the newer ships to come into the game via shiva could provide another tactical edge against ceptor fleets. I thought projectiles and hybrids were okay but maybe lasers were needed to be changed to become compeditive again, i can understand that projectile weapons are meant to be slow firing range damage givers but i dont get that they need uber tracking to even hit the big immovable battleship 60k's away and the raven, i thought the whole point of the raven was to hold the most and the biggest missiles, what happened there? Regards Ribbo
Airshod Ventez	Posted - 2004.06.17 15:19:00 - [57] Being another victim to the ridiculous scenario in which a cruise missile hit a can en-route to a rat, and consequently loosing my Megathron and most of its innards, and having been a keen and loyal player of Eve since last day of Beta, I shall be canceling my monthly payments, and making some more room on my hard drive. That is, of course if the GM's don't do something about it, and offer some kind of compensation, or reverse the ill effects.
Origim	Posted - 2004.06.17 15:44:00 - [58] To all those 'Adapt and change' guys: I can only say that you are a minority. MMORPG Rule #1: If the majority doesn't like the game, there soon won't be a game at all... -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Sinist	Posted - 2004.06.17 15:47:00 - [59] This is what I understood from this thread. 1) People cry about 1400mm projectile guns that they cant hit another battleship with them. 2) 1400mms are fine if you equip tracking enhancers but put out less damage. 3) 1400mms are longe range guns. 4) People cry about having to put tracking enhancers on 1400mms in order to hit anything at longe range or at all. 5) People who complain appear to be newbs. 6) People argue that they know physics and it is apparantly just as easy to hit a small target at optimal range then a big one . Oh and with big longe range projectile guns too. 7) More crying about a frigate with a mwd getting blown up, when mwds were changed to make you easier to hit and target then if you hadnt been using a MWD. (I blame this on you not reading the patch notes). 8) Interceptor users refusing to use afterburners. 9) Interceptor uses refusing to accept that with afterburners they wont be able to be hit by large guns and will remain hard to target and track. ( CRy I cant go 3000km/s in battle). 10) Interceptor users refusing to accept that battleships can fit small frigate sized guns and have just an easy a chance of being hit then if they were fighitng another interceptor or frigate. 11) Flames Flames and more Flames about peoples intelligence when they obviously display lack of maturity. There are better ways to express your concerns then "idiot this and idiots that". 12) People arguiing that Battleships should be able to hit fast moving frigates or interceptors. (They refuse to want variety in ship fleets etc). It goes on and on and on in every thread in every forum.
Stevo	Posted - 2004.06.17 15:49:00 - [60] Originally by: Synex You should all train up Mining 5 - they've not nerfed that yet! Whats funny is I am! lol - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -

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