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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.19 22:58:00 -
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Ok.
All alliances, in almost all campaigns, have a positive efficiency, and a positive killed/lost ISK ratio. Something obviously is broken.
When an Alliance ship is killed it is part of the losses of the alliance. (100% loss)
Whereas when even one alliance ship is involved in a kill (lets say involvement 20% one out of five ships) the alliance gets credit for the kill.
So what i have is multiple alliance sharing credit for one kill (or several corps, mechanism is the same) whereas losses are only credited to one corp/alliance.
Thats how all stats are fixed up, none of them gives us the real image of the campaign.
So the question comes, what can be done, so that KBs give a better picture of the campaigns/wars/ kills-loss ratio?
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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.19 23:28:00 -
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So you say its done on purpose?
So that all alliances boast about themselves?
I think the mechanism is broken, thats what i said. Its not done on purpose its simply the mechanism. WIN = 20 ships. LOSS=1 ship. We all end up winners!
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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.20 07:13:00 -
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OMG.
Killboards are not Militia Kills, ffs.
KBs are something like that (id never though ppl wouldnt be aware of them even in Empire...) http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/
All Alliances have KBs, and almost all corps. Usually the killmails are being cross posted, so even if i dont post my loss, but my killer posts his kill (even at anothers alliance KB, I cant avoid having another loss.
And i go on saying. It is the mechanism that should be somewhat different.
If 5 people gang one person (or even 5 persons but kill just one of them) all 5 people get a kill whereas only one person gets a loss.
If 2 alliances in same gang kill someone both alliances get kill, but if someone is killed only one alliance suffers LOSS. This way all stats (google killboards morsus mihi, bob, razor, etc) always seem better than the truth.
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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.21 08:52:00 -
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Maybe all people should show up in the KM (for reference reasons)
But the actual kill is awarded to the max dmg person (not the final blow cause most of the times this is random).
All other guys should get something like a new stat that says "involvement in kill" (like an advanced version of the kills/real kills in pilot stats). But that would affect alliance also.
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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.21 18:23:00 -
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In a win situation all are winners.
In a loss situation only one is losser.
Whatever criteria are used for 1st case should be also used for the second case, which doesnt happen.
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