Right, because anytime someone says they're going to do something and then does it, it's completely unrelated. Got me there. I bow to your prowess of logic.

Unfortunately for Mitanni, that video coupled with a prepared slide, the former telegraphing his plan for fanfast & the latter facilitating it, is a clear line of evidence that would indeed support that it was premeditated.

But not the intellect to understand this is exactly what happens in cases of bullying right up until it goes too far. Go read about bullying, cases that have seen the light of day and you'll see parents and friends stating exactly what you have, "They were joking., "They didn't mean it", "They're good kids". And yet a child was driven to the point of suicide. To blame the dead child for not HTFU is the very definition of sociopathic. Alex is an adult, a lawyer, and should already be aware of this. I can only conclude that he's a poor adult and a horrible lawyer. Perhaps that's why some people say he's a former lawyer. *shrugs* I don't really know either way and I don't really care what he does for a living. I do know he's an adult that for what ever reason, perhaps a lack of self-esteem, is pandering to the worst adolescent behavior. Even sadder is CCP's complicity in this....supposedly a group of adults and professionals.

Except the part outlining how he's going to present, in front of thousands of people at fanfest, people for whom Mitanni wants to commit suicide.

From your reply I've never seen a more clear cut case of selective perception.

I'm sorry, did you miss the part where he DID single out a specific player to the point of spelling his name for the benefit of drunken associates?

You're right. In that video he only says he intends to tell people to commit suicide by himself, whereas at fanfest he ended up encouraging others to contribute towards that end. Now, it's true that that is a significant difference. But the Mittani's 'apology' kind of implied that he was sorry about the whole suicide thing and shocked and ashamed that he might have done anything to encourage someone suicidal to go down that road. It certainly didn't state that encouraging people to kill themselves was just business as usual and that he only overstepped the mark by encouraging others to join in.

He overstepped the mark by combining the two. He didn't just indicate the vulnerable player, he indicated him specifically in the context of that kind of 'catchphrase'.

I'm sure you'll agree that a major element in the whole clusterfuck is that a phrase that is actually quite serious and is treated as having serious implications if used towards people in RL has become overly trivialised in the minds of many eve players, to the extent that they forget WHY it is offensive and only remember THAT it is offensive.

Now, if only people would accept that there was a genuine problem and not a 'non-event' then there would really be nothing left to talk about

Can we please stop crying (especially Goons and afiliates) abut this CSM issue, its old newsGǪ

Muttantani got drunk while wearing the cool kid wizard hat (auction it, am sure you could secure a few votes for the next CSM election) and all of a sudden 10.058 wentGǪhow do you say itGǪPOOF? It was more like "fttt" over here but I was far from the "epicenter".

No re-vote, if you don't like, do what your commander in chief told the other guy. Am not good at quoting people but it had something to do with "flesruoy llik"

So kidsGǪwhat have we learned?
Role Playing in real live while intoxicated is dangerous!!!!

Now go play the serious space ship game and have a beer.