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Stafford Hollis
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:04:00 -
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With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard. |
Eli Grange
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:20:00 -
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I heartily agree, The Mittani chaired the most successful CSM and ushered in a new age of prosperity for EVE, improving the outlook for CCP, and how do they repay him?
By banning him for a month and kicking him off the CSM, caving to pressure applied by a political opponent, using an off the cuff drunken comment outside of the game which isn't even covered by the TOS
The kicker is that the person mentioned doesn't even remember making the mail that was read at fanfest, because it was nothing more than a sob story written to try and stop people from ganking his mackinaw fleets,
This mail, which pop psychologists jumped on as proof of anything at all, is completely contrary to the fact that people with heavy depression do not project.
This is downright robbery and political backstabbing by a small person with the intellect of Riverini |
Domwav II
Petrichor Acquisitions and Industry Development Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:27:00 -
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When 16% of people vote for a candidate (and the second highest candidate is less than half of that, if the winner is disqualified before the start of term, I do believe a revote is in order. Mittani was the beacon of hope that brought us through the Incarna Affair. 16% of all votes are about to be thrown out because of a comment made in a, frankly, public and informal setting? This is great insult to all of us who took the time to vote. |
Brisco County
The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:32:00 -
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I agree. There are 10,000 pod pilots now who have no voice in the CSM.
20% of the people who voted - ie, 20% of the people who take part in the community and give a **** about Eve. |
Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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No, we don't count, because a small but loud minority don't like us and were able to generate a lot of bad press. Clearly our votes shouldn't be counted. |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
475
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:37:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/8q5Pt.jpg Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~
10,058 |
Neilrac
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:39:00 -
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**** this i voted for him. Get him the **** in againg |
Jack Parr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:01:00 -
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It's funny listening to the goonies and their pets (test) cry. Their sandy vaginas must really hurt. If ya'll hadn't voted for such a dumb prick you wouldn't be where you are now. Ha, ha, ha. |
Stafford Hollis
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:03:00 -
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Jack Parr wrote:It's funny listening to the goonies and their pets (test) cry. Their sandy vaginas must really hurt. If ya'll hadn't voted for such a dumb prick you wouldn't be where you are now. Ha, ha, ha. That sir is very offensive to me and the rest of my alliance. CCP, would you please ban this individual? TIA. |
Jack Parr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:09:00 -
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Stafford Hollis wrote:Jack Parr wrote:It's funny listening to the goonies and their pets (test) cry. Their sandy vaginas must really hurt. If ya'll hadn't voted for such a dumb prick you wouldn't be where you are now. Ha, ha, ha. That sir is very offensive to me and the rest of my alliance. CCP, would you please ban this individual? TIA.
If I apologize and give you 10 billion will the ban be only 30 days?
I do get to keep your tears, right? |
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Stafford Hollis
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:59:00 -
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Jack Parr wrote:Stafford Hollis wrote:Jack Parr wrote:It's funny listening to the goonies and their pets (test) cry. Their sandy vaginas must really hurt. If ya'll hadn't voted for such a dumb prick you wouldn't be where you are now. Ha, ha, ha. That sir is very offensive to me and the rest of my alliance. CCP, would you please ban this individual? TIA. If I apologize and give you 10 billion will the ban be only 30 days? I do get to keep your tears, right?
Yes, send me 10b and you may keep the tears. |
Macon Chalaise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:07:00 -
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Stafford Hollis wrote:With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.
Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US.
He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote."
True story. Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:10:00 -
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Macon Chalaise wrote:Stafford Hollis wrote:With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard. Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US. He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote." True story.
And then his running-mate took over. And that was, who now for Mittens?
EDIT: Did Nixon step down before assuming office? Just wondering, kinda fuzzy on my history. |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
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Can we please have more comparisons to RL politics on the forums? There aren't enough. All of you who make these terrible comparisons should seriously thrill yourselves IRL. |
Allandi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:18:00 -
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Your vote was placed, it was counted. It counts still. It counted long enough for the guy you spent it on to waste it for you.
Don't blame CCP that you spent it on someone who immediately got himself thrown out by not stopping to think. Blame the guy that actually wasted it. |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:24:00 -
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Allandi wrote:Your vote was placed, it was counted. It counts still. It counted long enough for the guy you spent it on to waste it for you.
Don't blame CCP that you spent it on someone who immediately got himself thrown out by not stopping to think. Blame the guy that actually wasted it. No, my vote is now uncounted. Maybe now that Mittens has been removed from CSM due to CCP's face saving, I'd put that vote toward someone else. 10000 votes matter and if you throw them out, then might as well not even have a vote or the institution that was voted for. |
Macon Chalaise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:51:00 -
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Demon Azrakel wrote:Macon Chalaise wrote:Stafford Hollis wrote:With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard. Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US. He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote." True story. And then his running-mate took over. And that was, who now for Mittens? EDIT: Did Nixon step down before assuming office? Just wondering, kinda fuzzy on my history.
He was about two years into his term.
Two step should get the chair and Hans move to #7. Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:33:00 -
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Jack Parr wrote:It's funny listening to the goonies and their pets (test) cry. Their sandy vaginas must really hurt. If ya'll hadn't voted for such a dumb prick you wouldn't be where you are now. Ha, ha, ha.
I am very offended by your post and if you dont send me 10b ill contact mods and ask them if they can ban you and if they say no ill contact gaming press and make a great scandal of it...
Was my attempt to rolepay hi-sec pubbie good enough? |
Dovinian
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:39:00 -
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Macon Chalaise wrote:He was about two years into his term.
Two step should get the chair and Hans move to #7. UAxDEATH would move into #7, not Hans. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:07:00 -
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Perhaps it is time for mittens to consider his position in the Goons.
He, and he alone, is responsible for the Goon votes given to him being null and void.
Oh, how many Goons have rage quit? not many I'll wager.
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:15:00 -
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You voted and lets be honest you got what you voted for. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:54:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:You voted and lets be honest you got what you voted for.
And we were concern with it,but then some pubbies decided that its good time for old good witch hunt and white-knighting and stole it from us
:true story bro:
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Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:57:00 -
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PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
And we were concern with it,but then some pubbies decided that its good time for old good witch hunt and white-knighting and stole it from us
:true story bro:
Quoting this before you edit it. |
Real Poison
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:02:00 -
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a revote so goons can install someone as Mitten's muppet? lulz! |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
679
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:14:00 -
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If he had been booted off the CSM I might be inclined to agree with a re-vote of some sort.
But by the looks of it, Mittens stepped down on his own. I don't think it was necessary but I guess he did.
Then again, nobody got to re-vote when Ankhenstinkapalooza or Larkonis were removed. Why would we re-vote when a member steps down? Here's your sign... |
Highauger's animated corpse
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:48:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:If he had been booted off the CSM I might be inclined to agree with a re-vote of some sort.
But by the looks of it, Mittens stepped down on his own. I don't think it was necessary but I guess he did.
Then again, nobody got to re-vote when Ankhenstinkapalooza or Larkonis were removed. Why would we re-vote when a member steps down?
Erm 10,000 voters? Crucbible? The obvious capitulation to outside influence. The destruction of the whole vote. Riverini? So much to choose from. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:59:00 -
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Stafford Hollis wrote:With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.
The goon vote is not "disenfranchised" they just voted poorly for an unstable candidate who didn't know how to behave in front of the cameras. Through this saga the goons have been saying "don't like it, vote for someone else next time" ... well whats good for the goose. Next time goons should choose better who their votes go to.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jerioca
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:22:00 -
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[quote=War Kitten]If he had been booted off the CSM I might be inclined to agree with a re-vote of some sort
But by the looks of it, Mittens stepped down on his own. I don't think it was necessary but I guess he did.
Then again, nobody got to re-vote when Ankhenstinkapalooza or Larkonis were removed. Why would we re-vote when a member steps down?[/quote
I'm not a Mittani fan. I am a fan of what Mittani and the rest of CSM6 did with their time and effort last year. So, for the record Mittani stepped down for the automatic position of CSM7 chairman not from CSM7 itself. The 30 day ban CCP gave out to him stripped him of his seat on CSM7 so he had stepped down from chairman but has been booted out of CSM7
Love him or hate him The Mittani gets things done. I'm sad that a all too human mistake has cost him the chairman's seat but it was a price that had to be paid. I'm disgusted that opportunistic and unecessary politicing and political correctness taken to its most extreme has cost him his seat on CSM7. EVE, CCP, the community and the CSM itself will be the lesser for this
I do hope Mittens runs for CSM8 and that he is allowed to stand for election to it. If he does I will vote for him. Not because I'm a goon pet or alt, not because I like Mittens and not because I agree with what goonswarm stands for. I will vote for him because based on his record in CSM6 and his alliance's achievements, the man gets things done and gets them done well
As it stands the current CSM is now run by a very loud tail wagging a very quiet dog and all the tail wants to do is destroy everything around it. This is no way for a player advocacy to behave. It is especially no way to behave before they have even taken their seats. The current CSM elect have let down themselves and the EVE community as a whole far more than Mittani has
I therefore support a call for the CSM7 election to be rerun with the original candidates minus The Mittani standing for re election |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
681
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:34:00 -
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Yeah, reading deeper it seems he's off CSM7 because of the ban and he'd only intended to step down from chairmanship.
Rules is rules though.
I also hope he runs again for CSM8 - things got done.
In the meantime, yeah those 10058 people have a right to feel cheated. But blaming the makers and enforcers of the rules instead of the one who irresponsibly broke them might be a little misguided.
Here's your sign... |
Twil Akachi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:35:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Can we please have more comparisons to RL politics on the forums? There aren't enough. All of you who make these terrible comparisons should seriously thrill yourselves IRL. I agree, masturbation can have a well documented calm---what? That's not what he meant? Ohhhhhhh..... |
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