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Cruel Crow	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:37:00 - [1] Thanks!
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:39:00 - [2] Que?
Skalet Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:40:00 - [3] your computer maybe?
Cruel Crow	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Skalet your computer maybe? Your smart one Maybe it EVE software that causing such a memory leak ON MY COMPUTER! This can be manage with other software! Maybe CCP can hire someone to do the job!
Viktrus Caldari Omega Engineering Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:52:00 - [5] Originally by: Cruel Crow Originally by: Skalet your computer maybe? Your smart one Maybe it EVE software that causing such a memory leak ON MY COMPUTER! This can be manage with other software! Maybe CCP can hire someone to do the job! #1 Don't be a *****. #2 Try the tech support forums. #3 More details on your computer spec and what else your doing would also help.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.23 17:54:00 - [6] The OP might also want to consider that just because memory usage increases doesn't mean there's a leak. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Judge Ment Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Andrue The OP might also want to consider that just because memory usage increases doesn't mean there's a leak. I think CCP well aware there is a Memory Leak, lets not kid ourselfs TROLLS! ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Viqtoria Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:03:00 - [8] the day they bother fixing the eve client i might bother reactivating my sub
Judge Ment Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Viqtoria the day they bother fixing the eve client i might bother reactivating my sub Im coming really close to closing 3 accounts, that are paying for this service! I am a true DIE HARD EVE players but Im really getting tired of all the lame excuses and *****ing ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:05:00 - [10] ITT: people who don't know what memory leak means. - - - i am a humble and inefficent ammo to dps converter
Eomar Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:09:00 - [11] good trolling anything up to 4 accounts running at one time here, on a laptop, with no notable memory loss, as well as running vent, firefox and all the other essentials (including speech recognition, one day ill be able to say, "avast computer! target that battleship and remove him from my sky!" and itll do it.... you watch and see.) Mayhaps the suggestions put forth like going to the right forum, providing more info, etcetcetc would be more sensible than *****ing, people are actually more inclined to help then. ...in accordance with the prophecy
Judge Ment Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:22:00 - [12] Bad Troll which system you currently running in? Always a ass hole in every crowd! ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Eomar good trolling anything up to 4 accounts running at one time here, on a laptop, with no notable memory loss, as well as running vent, firefox and all the other essentials (including speech recognition, one day ill be able to say, "avast computer! target that battleship and remove him from my sky!" and itll do it.... you watch and see.) Mayhaps the suggestions put forth like going to the right forum, providing more info, etcetcetc would be more sensible than *****ing, people are actually more inclined to help then. You don't know what a memory leak is, if you think what other stuff you're running has any impact at all. A memory leak is when there is memory allocated which no longer references anything. In practice any time in a garbage collection environment where you have stale and unnecessary references still hanging around its considered a memory leak - even though the term isn't technically accurate. In other words, Eve should't take up more memory progressively over time - it should be disposing of unnecessary information when its done with it. Anyone who actually looks at it does notice that after playing Eve for several hours the footprint gets progressively larger until you restart the application. To be honest though it probably isn't a problem for most people to just restart the app when it gets that bad.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:34:00 - [14] Moved to Known issues. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.09.23 18:58:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Moved to Known issues. Which item is this on the known issues list?
k Rose Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.23 19:11:00 - [16] Item list? will just call this one LACK OF RABBITS To enable image please go into your setting and check the box show images!

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.09.23 19:16:00 - [17] If you are running multiple clients, set the cache size to low. If you are experiencing issues, please file a bug report with reproduction steps for this memory leak and we'll look into it.

Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.23 19:38:00 - [18] Edited by: Andrue on 23/09/2008 19:40:11 Originally by: Beltantis Torrence In other words, Eve should't take up more memory progressively over time - it should be disposing of unnecessary information when its done with it. That's true but spotting a memory leak 'by eye' requires that you know enough about the data structures to determine how soon (or even if) they become unused. When developing a game the developer might reasonably expect their application to be the primary task. In that case it might as well consume all available resources. It's not like writing a word processor or spreadsheet where you know that you're likely to be sharing system resources with other equally hungry applications. When plying a game most people just play the game and don't want or need the computer to be doing anything else. In Eve's case we know there is a cache and the cache might be designed to grow for as long as it can. That would not be a leak. As long as the cache simply stops when it hits the limit then all is fine. Detecting leaks is easy. Fixing leaks less so (but personally I find it very gratifying because of the challenge). The first thing you learn though is never to assume there is a leak. This is especially true on a virtual OS like Windows. The second thing you learn is never to use the Windows Task Manager to look for leaks -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.09.23 20:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Andrue That's true but spotting a memory leak 'by eye' requires that you know enough about the data structures to determine how soon (or even if) they become unused. Caching's intent is to make the application run faster. If the fix for an issue is to restart the application then that's not caching performing correctly. That's different naturally than when we talk about memory leaks in the traditional sense (things you'd use page heap to find and etc). But the term is used interchangably in practice. Anyway there's a common sense part where you say "Hey, restarting this application frees up 400 megabytes of memory without any noticable difference in speed, I wonder if caching might not be performing appropriately..."
Cassius Longinus Darkwave Technologies Pure.	Posted - 2008.09.23 22:52:00 - [20] I just wanted to add a note here that whenever I end up leaving my client running when I sleep/passout/etc., I always wake up in the morning to an "out of memory exception". Client is run in windows mode. I don't plan on filing a bug because it's such a pain to track down memory leaks without an actual profiler. I would simply suggest that someone on the testing team may want to try to leave a client running for 12 hours (including downtime) and see what happens. Maybe it will reproduce locally.

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