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JohnMonty
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
24
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:05:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Aranakas wrote:Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop. This is clear harassment, players involved should be banned. It is clear harassment and players will likely get themselves banned if not worse. Worse being real legal action against them. As long as they act within game mechanics its not harassment, sorry, but CCP brought all the attention on the man in question, he wasn't going to be bothered until they made a mountain out of a molehill.\ If i was the man in question i would actually talk to a lawyer, as CCP has unquestionably put him in a position where the largest portion of the game possible hates him. You can't use the game mechanics as an excuse to actively victimise a player as the intent has nothing to do with the game. You could find yourself in a court of law. CCP are watching and they will deal with it harshly because they'll have to.
Ok how about this for an idea:
CCP adds a new option to the game. If you are feeling down and may cut yourself you can press I button in the menu. Once this button is pressed no can do any damage to your ship and no one can start a convo with you.
Will this make you "we have to make sure no one ever ever gets there feeling hurt" people happy? |

None ofthe Above
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:05:00 -
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So I am just going to leave this here...
Spotted on SA (I don't vouch for its validity).
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3447025&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=291#post402019559
Quote: [23:56:08] DurrHurrDurr > Hello. [23:56:12] DurrHurrDurr > Give me one momebnt. [23:56:14] DurrHurrDurr > *moment. [23:57:39] DurrHurrDurr > Did you get that? [23:58:21] DurrHurrDurr > Check your alliance notifications. [23:59:41] The Wis > Ok.. [00:00:05] DurrHurrDurr > TEST has declared war against your alliance. [00:00:15] The Wis > ok. why? [00:00:46] DurrHurrDurr > Hostilities will end when you undock a fully-fit battleship and self-destruct it on a station undock with TEST witnesses. [00:01:43] DurrHurrDurr > You can check TEST's alliance description; I am a diplomat and authorized to make this offer. [00:01:48] The Wis > And can I ask why this wardec [00:02:11] DurrHurrDurr > You may not. [00:03:04] DurrHurrDurr > Additionally [00:03:15] DurrHurrDurr > The ship you self-destruct must be named "Bottle of Xanax" [00:03:48] DurrHurrDurr > Have a good day.
TEST Jabber leak:
quote:
durrhurrdurr> Someone broadcast this [20:10:19] durrhurrdurr> I found The Wis for you. From: Otewlf Rarkakidur Sent: 2012.03.29 00:08 I've found your scumsucker. He is in the Dantan system, Febihkin constellation of the Kador region. [20:15:40] durrhurrdurr> Someone broadcast this [20:16:07] durrhurrdurr> I will pay 100m to whoever gets the final blow on The Wis' killmail before the wardec goes live. [20:17:48] indyindy> ill match it [20:18:09] indyindy> gently caress it....ill give 1b to whoever gets the final blow
SoTG starting by someone quoting bad Star Wars fanfic.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
472
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:06:00 -
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Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
432
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:07:00 -
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So...you got a ton of ideas to get the cat back into the bag.
Real life has a way of jumpin' up and bitin' you in the ass, don't it?
We have all these folkways, mores, rules and reggalations to PREVENT this sort of thing from happening. Guess what happens when you get all convinced this isn't really real. Yeah. It suddenly becomes all kinds of real.
"Fool's paradise." Cute little place.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
119
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:07:00 -
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Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop.
That has to be one of the stupidest, most ignorant things I've ever heard.
If a gaggle of ignorant people insist on taking their impotent rage out on an innocent person, that's not CCP's fault. Further, I hope they get what's coming to them....lots and lots of undesired, surprise anal.
"Don't do anything to my hero or I'm going to **** this puppy!!!"
Get a grip...at least on some semblance of a reasonable position.
If the original suicidal guy deserves to be laughed at, anyone taking this act or supporting it now needs to be mocked to the end of time, shat upon, stuffed in the garbage, and thrown into the cesspool that is their existence. |

Glarealot
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:08:00 -
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Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop.
It has nothing to do with the fact that Mittani called the guy out in his stepping down post saying that the only reason he was stepping down as chairman was because the victim didn't completely accept his apology as sincere.
Naw, nothing to do with that at all. |

Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
16
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:08:00 -
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Can someone please help me! There's some kind of sticky white stuff all over my keyboard and the keys are sticking, I dont know what to do. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |

Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:Can someone please help me! There's some kind of sticky white stuff all over my keyboard and the keys are sticking, I dont know what to do. its probably the reaction your sprite can is having after you spilled it on the keyboard, foaming up and all. |

Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
119
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Aranakas wrote:Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop. This is clear harassment, players involved should be banned. It is clear harassment and players will likely get themselves banned if not worse. Worse being real legal action against them. As long as they act within game mechanics its not harassment, sorry, but CCP brought all the attention on the man in question, he wasn't going to be bothered until they made a mountain out of a molehill.\ If i was the man in question i would actually talk to a lawyer, as CCP has unquestionably put him in a position where the largest portion of the game possible hates him.
This thread makes me want to rage-quit the world. Where's a few hundred nukes when you need them? This "human race" experiment has been an utter disgrace. |

Sylvyrr
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:
You can't use the game mechanics as an excuse to actively victimise a player as the intent has nothing to do with the game. You could find yourself in a court of law. CCP are watching and they will deal with it harshly because they'll have to.
HAHAHAHA!
What planet are you from??
You think shooting a pixel player in a game will land you in a court of law?
What about killing another FPS player over and over. Will they get a lawyer and sue your ass for greifing them? $500 fine for teabaggin?
You need to go outside, you're meshing your gamer life with reality. |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
628
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:17:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Aranakas wrote:Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop. This is clear harassment, players involved should be banned. It is clear harassment and players will likely get themselves banned if not worse. Worse being real legal action against them. As long as they act within game mechanics its not harassment, sorry, but CCP brought all the attention on the man in question, he wasn't going to be bothered until they made a mountain out of a molehill.\ If i was the man in question i would actually talk to a lawyer, as CCP has unquestionably put him in a position where the largest portion of the game possible hates him. You can't use the game mechanics as an excuse to actively victimise a player as the intent has nothing to do with the game. You could find yourself in a court of law. CCP are watching and they will deal with it harshly because they'll have to.
Sure sure, but its ok for CCP to drag said player into the spotlight in a game where being ruthless is at its very core.
Don't blame the players, they're just venting that the person they all elected has been removed by ccp, who then put the reason they removed him under a magnifying glass.
This isn't the players fault, CCP handled this like a bull in a china shop, if anybody finds themselves in a court of law (you're an idiot for even suggesting that might happen) it will be the game company you currently play for, this is all their doing.
This would have simply blown over if for once they'd have just shut the hell up, but they HAD to say and do something, and in doing something they've drawn all the attention down on the original player who was supposed to be a victim. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:20:00 -
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Is this bad troll? I just looked him up ingame and he has no bounty and 4.2 sec status. You do know that you can only place bounties on chars with less than -1 sec, right? If it's not an ingame bounty then I'm not sure we should really care because those are all bs anyways. Ingame bounties are broken as hell too and are the exact opposite of griefing. What, I mean ingame bounties are super griefing, please don't put a bounty on me good sir, I'd be so sad if you put a 5b bounty on my head :( :(
In other news, does john roe really have a 200b isk bounty? Crazy. And what's with all these EOH people with 500m bounties. This is just weird. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
155
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:20:00 -
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JohnMonty wrote: Ok how about this for an idea:
CCP adds a new option to the game. If you are feeling down and may cut yourself you can press a button in the menu. Once this button is pressed no can do any damage to your ship and no one can start a convo with you.
Will this make you "we have to make sure no one ever ever gets their feeling hurt" people happy?
So the victim became the target because a mob decided to cyber bully him because they did not like the actions of the MMO co. That could make good headlines too.
It's not about adding new options it's about not making conflicts personal. The strange thing is the people that complain it's getting softer are usually the reason it gets softer or at least a small percentage of them.
What's more of a concern is there are lots of groups outside of the gaming industry that would like nothing more than tougher restrictions on games. And it's the type of action you are contemplating that is likely to give them what they need and ruin it for all gamers. |

Oxylan
1 Caldaryjski Pluton Uderzeniowy
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:22:00 -
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Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop.
Why so meny people hate this "Victim" and why he got victim status?, any short story about this hate ? |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
56
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:23:00 -
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Some dude that was mean to me just apologized and gave me a pile of ISK. What should I do with it? I know! I'll put a large chunk of it on my own head for more e-fame! Post with your monkey. |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
176
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:29:00 -
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"The victim" doesn't control CCP's actions. Whether he "is cool with it" or not doesn't matter. CCP's ToS/EULA we're violated. CCP made the decision to punish "the offender" as they would any other player out of principle. Simply being a member of the CSM does not mean that the rules do not apply to you. |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
211
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:31:00 -
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Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop. Yes. CCP brought this upon him. Not the grief idiots that can't tell the difference between reality and game. Nope .
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Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:35:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess.
They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
159
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:40:00 -
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Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass.
Which is also an indication of cyber bullying. They won't be able to spin it as game mechanics. |

Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:43:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass. Which is also an indication of cyber bullying. They won't be able to spin it as game mechanics.
Pretty sure using the 'give money' function is a game mechanic. It's no different than paying a merc corp to **** on someone you dislike. |

Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:45:00 -
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Javier McPoopbeard wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass. Which is also an indication of cyber bullying. They won't be able to spin it as game mechanics. Pretty sure using the 'give money' function is a game mechanic.
So all those RMT people aren't doing anything wrong? |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
484
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:47:00 -
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Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass.
Wait seriously
I think that is definitely not ok.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
161
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:48:00 -
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Javier McPoopbeard wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass. Which is also an indication of cyber bullying. They won't be able to spin it as game mechanics. Pretty sure using the 'give money' function is a game mechanic.
Does not matter, it's the intent that counts. They won't be out to play the game they will be out to cyber bully him, plain and simple. CCP are already aware and monitoring. |

Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:49:00 -
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Aranakas wrote:Javier McPoopbeard wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Javier McPoopbeard wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Put billion isk bounty on a guy with 22 alts.
So they are making him billions richer when he goes out and pods himself with one of his alts?
Im ok with that i guess. They aren't using the in-game bounty system, dumbass. Which is also an indication of cyber bullying. They won't be able to spin it as game mechanics. Pretty sure using the 'give money' function is a game mechanic. So all those RMT people aren't doing anything wrong?
RMT violates the TOS, dumbass. Paying someone in-game to kill another player does not. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:56:00 -
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Twistator wrote:So do I get this right, this guy is now immune to all forms of piracy in game? Can you tell me when his psychy is good enough for him to be ganked again? Will CCP tell me its ok to gank him again? Do I have to petition them to find out?
Getting a little testie?
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
57
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:38:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Getting a little testie? No, both of them are a perfectly normal size.
Post with your monkey. |

Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
69
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:48:00 -
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Meh, most of the people creating problems are cowards acting from behind NPC alts.
The only name associated (unfairly imo) with the other side is "The Wis". |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
511
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:50:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
Sure sure, but its ok for CCP to drag said player into the spotlight in a game where being ruthless is at its very core.
Don't blame the players, they're just venting that the person they all elected has been removed by ccp, who then put the reason they removed him under a magnifying glass.
This isn't the players fault, CCP handled this like a bull in a china shop, if anybody finds themselves in a court of law (you're an idiot for even suggesting that might happen) it will be the game company you currently play for, this is all their doing.
This would have simply blown over if for once they'd have just shut the hell up, but they HAD to say and do something, and in doing something they've drawn all the attention down on the original player who was supposed to be a victim.
http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march
Your joking right. We got the audio. He is a pathetic whiny looser. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
485
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:53:00 -
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Point out the whining, I seem to have missed it. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |

Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
242
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:53:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Goonspiracy wrote:Now I'm told "the victim" who was otherwise completely cool with everything, and seemed like a very normal player. He's got 1.1bil bounty on him, and there are hundreds of players hunting his characters now. CCP has brought this upon a supposed "suicide risk" character by publicly angering tens of thousands of players against him, who now solely have him to use as a punching bag.
Congratulations CCP, you just accomplished everything you claimed you were setting out to stop. Yes. CCP brought this upon him. Not the rampaging goon idiots who can't tell the difference between reality and game. Nor is it Mr. Alexander Gianturco's fault for his inappropriate real-life threats over a game. Nope, it's CCP's fault  . 1. It's all of you who can't tell the difference between real life and the game, not the Goons. 2. It's not a real-life threat (see point 1.) "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
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