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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:54:00 -
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I disagree with this guide.
One douse not just fly gallente, one needs to know how to fly and warp or one is lost. If one doesn't know how to fly, one shall fly caldary.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 21:41:00 -
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bronson , if targets get webbed to 60% you still have better tracking then all non missile boats in on on on. a missile boat usually doesn't fit a web so you are faster then it and can control the fight (in 1 on 1) and move according to his movements to reduce your angular velocity a bit. You can engage at 0 km and bath ships cant do much damage (the stupid hole even affects missiles iirc) you'd still have the better drones (perhaps can't brake the tank tho). You can simply fly away, your way faster. You can fit some web drones, a loss in total dps but it would boost your turret dps(drones can be shot T_T). If your not solo you can double web.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 21:48:00 -
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Aleus Stygian are you sure you quoted the right post ? i am the one how seas that blasters have best tracking.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 22:09:00 -
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To put it bluntly, Pulse Lasers can handle a target orbiting almost 3x faster than Blasters can. And this is right now, before the upcoming web nerf. This needs to be looked at in a big way before webs get changed or Blaster ships are going to be just about useless.
Your numbers are correct but if a blaster ship is in his optimal it has 25% better tracking then the lazer ship. Lets follow your logic, after your logic the best weapons in game are the long range railguns artillery etc cos those can handle ships orbiting them at 250km that fly ~30 times as fast as the ship in your lazer example.
now don't get me wrong a free tracking boost id not say no but the facts are, if your in your range you have better tracking and more control. if not then tracking wont do you any good anyways. I even think that weber's now days make it a slight bit harder for me to get into optimal.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shosoru on 24/09/2008 22:22:02
So you see no use in gallente nor minmatar ships in fleet pvp but caldary with 50km range and 30 second flying missiles are better. huh
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The difference here is long range weapons are a significant damage drop from pulse lasers, while pulse lasers are only a very slight damage drop from blasters. Please actually look at a tracking/damage graph sometime.
no you don't see that if you fly a blaster boat you are in the range or not and if your in it you do moar damage. Puls have their use no doubt but this is about damage. Puls less damage and less tracking vs a say megathron that isn't "stationary" or cant web so good is more dps. thats why gallente ships have all those midslots for tackle so that they can bend the situation to their will if possible.
Tell me m8 what fleet sise are you talking about in the first place if its not solo and not gang and not big fleet
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.24 22:28:00 -
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I'll leave you to your delusions.
ima gona go to bead. Thee refuses to see, so thee is just pray.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:36:00 -
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Theron Gyrow
In your example the hyp orbits at 500m. If both the mega and the hyp have web and mwd the meg is faster and the hyp would loose its sig radius bonus. so the meg would just fly to optimal using his cap intensive mwd for a few runs np and the hyp can either hit his mwd and fly toward the meg and get 104% damage for that time or he would be at a 5-6km range and the megas tracking is a bit better.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 25/09/2008 10:43:21
(a) Wall of text!
(b) He was talking about a Myrmidon, I believe. Anyway, Myrmidon uses a scrambler. Mega cannot MWD and control transversal anymore.
Cpt Branko I meant a myrmidon but sad hyp sorry (hyp cant loose a sig radiouse advantage ^^) iv edited it.
if the scrams get that ability a myrm and the myrm uses one and the mega also uses one the mega must just fly, the myrm isn't much faster then a mega and would be more like following the mega then orbiting it = lower transversal. with ab this might look different a bit.
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Aleus Stygian
Ugh... I'm going to try this in my most kiddy-friendly tone.
Okay, here's the thing... Firing on an opponent is not going to simultaneously slow them down and keep them from warping. It's going to make them upset and scared or angry, and then they will either run away or kill you. See that's how people react when you try to hurt them. And it's what's going to happen when they can both move and shoot, both at the same time. You got that? Good.
Now, when these people run away, what good does shooting do you? Nothing. You just waste ammo. Got that too?
And if they turn on you and shoot you back and kill you, if they know they can, because they are out of webbing and scramming range, what good does shooting do you? Nothing. See what I'm getting at here?
So, if blasterboats can't keep their enemies in place and get within 6000 meters, and if shooting is just going to be a waste of ammo or kill you?
And if you backtrack this whole explanation and realize that it's all about being able to keep enemies in place, not really the guns?
Are you starting to work things out here?!
This and nothing ells.
I am out of this stupid thread for good , all has been said already but epeen hugging guys hear still want to twist reality to their benefit.
Twist your epeen's as much as you want, they'll only grow in your imagination.
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